A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)

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  1. amy_94's Avatar
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
    (Original post by BayBee323)
    yes! i hated it! i basically said that source 1 said it was american misjudgment about the ussr's need for security and spoke about the fact that Stalin needed to protect the USSR from future attacks from the west & build a buffer zone of state influenced states, i contrasted this with source 2 which said it was soviet miscalculations and brought in Stalin's personality somewhere - saying that he honored the "naughty document" and didn't send aid to Greece and was did join in the Yalta conferences but perhaps he had to take a hardened approach to these countries because during the WW2 they were unfriendly with Russia ( didn't help Poland at Warsaw). i also said that Stalin saw the Marshall Plan as "american imperialism" because although it said it was for everyone, certain conditions meant the Eastern states couldn't apply but can be seen as Stalin's misjudgment. i remember saying that both source 1 and 2 were in agreement that there was a soviet hardening up of policy as a result of these miscalculations ( there was a phrase one of the sources used; it said "in the response") and i referenced source 3 at this point but can't remember what i said.

    thought source 3 was an actual mess - i know it said that it was due to different ideologies and their emergence as potential superpowers at this point and i remember contrasting it with source 1 which said that America was almighty powerful whilst source 3 did mention that the USSR was aswell. i said other things that i cannot remember but looking back i wish i said SO much more i really need an A

    how did you find it? forgive my awful typing i'm not on my usual laptop

    yeah i did basically the exact same that i can remember, even got that naughty document thing in to contrast the us perception of soviet expansionism :P same for source 3 don't think it helped that i had 10 minutes to deal with that source (id cross referenced it before but in terms of looking at it as a whole) but yeah i mentioned ideology for it and i think i talked about us policy linking it to source 1 and the power vacuum and a rivalry between the two. haha from what you've said it sounds like an A in terms of content tbh based on what we saw as examples in class i think the 40 mark is more generous with marks i was pushing for an A* but i think i blew it on the 40 mark :/
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
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    I also mentioned increased use of covert affairs, I mentioned Dulles and his influence over his policy as well I think you should be okay as you mentioned reactions from Khrushchev which suggests a counter argument of coexistence policies
    I talked about dulles with regard to his massive retaliation policy and his hawkish advice towards Eisenhower which undoubtably influenced him to make more confrontational diplomatic moves. For covert afdfairs I talked about the u2 spy plane (Gary powers) being shot down and its subsequent cancelling of the Paris summit in 1960
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
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    I talked about dulles with regard to his massive retaliation policy and his hawkish advice towards Eisenhower which undoubtably influenced him to make more confrontational diplomatic moves. For covert afdfairs I talked about the u2 spy plane (Gary powers) being shot down and its subsequent cancelling of the Paris summit in 1960
    Those were my points as well
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    (Original post by lilGem)
    Those were my points as well
    Pheww I feel so much better now!
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
    (Original post by gahyee94)
    I do see why people may have found the sources difficult because if they based it on the role of individuals mainly as their main point it could be limited especially with Reagan but don't worry too much! It's because I focused on both terms of Reagan, his re-militarisation and economics term then the negotiations term with START and the summits etc. The last source was full of economics so I cross analysed it with that and the Reagan sentence in the Second Source. I'm sure you've done really well! Don't worry about it It is also because I did a few mocks with sources similar to that and I love talking about economics and the decline of communism in my end of the cold war essays haha obviously also gorbachev's role but in two different ways. I'm just hoping for the best too! Good luck with everything
    Thanks!

    I have pretty much the same argument in terms of cause and consequence, I argued the chronology of economic-Gorbachev-protests-fall but I think my biggest failure was in structuring the sources into the answer. Most of the time I only quoted phrases to argue my points but I don't think I ever analyzed them as a whole much... I didn't go...

    Source 1 states... and it is backed up by... it contradicts Source 2... etc.

    I didn't do as much as I wanted to with the second source either as I ran out of time. So YEAH. I've only ever done two Section B essays and one essay plan .

    I really need the A for my uni offer! :boing:
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
    (Original post by partickler)
    Thanks!

    I have pretty much the same argument in terms of cause and consequence, I argued the chronology of economic-Gorbachev-protests-fall but I think my biggest failure was in structuring the sources into the answer. Most of the time I only quoted phrases to argue my points but I don't think I ever analyzed them as a whole much... I didn't go...

    Source 1 states... and it is backed up by... it contradicts Source 2... etc.

    I didn't do as much as I wanted to with the second source either as I ran out of time. So YEAH. I've only ever done two Section B essays and one essay plan .

    I really need the A for my uni offer! :boing:
    Oh I'm sure you did enough with the sources, don't worry too much about it!! Good luck with everything though, if you got an A last year you probably will get one this year!
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
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    Oh I'm sure you did enough with the sources, don't worry too much about it!! Good luck with everything though, if you got an A last year you probably will get one this year!
    What uni and course will you be taking up?
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    (Original post by goggy)
    I did the question about the motor manufacturing industry being a key cause of the boom and the New Deals controversy. I can barely remember the Opposition of the New Deals so I'm glad that a nicer part A came up (I spent a LOT of time on the boom). My teachers said the Depression question was slightly harder this year and I remember looking at it and going, "Haha no way am I doing that."

    Overall, I think it went alright.
    Same! it was easier question than I though. I was expecting some obscure choice like impact on women, or more on the red scare or urban vs. rural or something. lol
    But it seems like they went easy one us. Both questions were not so bad this time.
    I forgot the paper was 2 hours..lol..and then when I realized I spent to long on Section A and then wrote fail conclusion for both!
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
    (Original post by Bibs_x)
    Anyone who did Germany here - did your teachers by any chance make you watch this AWFUL film on Hitler called The Rise Of Evil or something like that? It's about 2 hours of my life I'll never get back I mean - you had British and Americans playing German characters, I was confused as to whether they were meant to be actually German or not! And the overall film was just so bad that I struggled to keep a straight face through it, I spent like 90 minutes trying hard not to burst out into a hysterical fit of laughter (I'm particularly bad at this - once I find something funny I can't stop laughing for ages. Even if no one else does, and I'm just the only person sitting there laughing until I cry) xD

    Edit: Apparently the solution to most of the character's problems in the film was suicide. I swear every time something went wrong for them, you'd see them put a gun to their heads :/
    Yes! We had to watch this. I loved it how one night Hitler went to bed looking fairly normal and then woke up with his hair completely changed and a toothbrush moustache . The acting just make me cringe inside, also, the man who played Hitler was in The Full Monty... I'll never get that mental image of Hitler doing a striptease out of my head o.O
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
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    Yes! We had to watch this. I loved it how one night Hitler went to bed looking fairly normal and then woke up with his hair completely changed and a toothbrush moustache . The acting just make me cringe inside, also, the man who played Hitler was in The Full Monty... I'll never get that mental image of Hitler doing a striptease out of my head o.O
    A girl in my class told me about "Hitler" (the guy who played him) being in that film actually, though I've never seen it before.

    My favourite bit was when Hitler was in hospital with a blindfold after he got exposed to tear gas in WW1 - and finding out Germany was losing...

    Doctor(?) - "Germany is going to lose the war..." Hitler - (overhearing this with a bandage around his eyes) NO! NOOOOO! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!, starts
    screaming hysterically etc. I actually burst out laughing at that point

    Also when his girlfriend (Eva) walks infront of him in her new skirt and Hitler pins her down on the sofa like a crazed sex maniac xD
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    What you said sounds right to me! I guess all we have left to do now is wait and see the results. (:
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
    (Original post by amy_94)
    yeah i did basically the exact same that i can remember, even got that naughty document thing in to contrast the us perception of soviet expansionism :P same for source 3 don't think it helped that i had 10 minutes to deal with that source (id cross referenced it before but in terms of looking at it as a whole) but yeah i mentioned ideology for it and i think i talked about us policy linking it to source 1 and the power vacuum and a rivalry between the two. haha from what you've said it sounds like an A in terms of content tbh based on what we saw as examples in class i think the 40 mark is more generous with marks i was pushing for an A* but i think i blew it on the 40 mark :/
    it makes me feel so much better that you wrote the same stuff as me!! exact same thing happened to me with source 3 don't worry i spent around 10 minutes on it, cross referencing it before slightly. seems like everyone found this paper a bit hard so hopefully we get really low grade boundaries! i hope you get your A*
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
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    What uni and course will you be taking up?
    I'm hopefully doing law at cambridge
    what about you?
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
    Hey, how many marks do people reckon I will lose was not completing my conclusion. I ran out of time The rest of the paper was fine, loved the sources for first controversy.
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    Hey, how many marks do people reckon I will lose was not completing my conclusion. I ran out of time The rest of the paper was fine, loved the sources for first controversy.
    Well the conclusion is quite important but as long as you made a little mini judgement at the end of each of your paragraphs then you should be fine, don't worry it's probably not worth that many marks


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    Well the conclusion is quite important but as long as you made a little mini judgement at the end of each of your paragraphs then you should be fine, don't worry it's probably not worth that many marks


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    Yes, I ended almost every paragraph with an evaluation of my argument followed by a brief judgement. Let's hope they are a bit lenient. Thank you
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
    (Original post by Bibs_x)
    A girl in my class told me about "Hitler" (the guy who played him) being in that film actually, though I've never seen it before.

    My favourite bit was when Hitler was in hospital with a blindfold after he got exposed to tear gas in WW1 - and finding out Germany was losing...

    Doctor(?) - "Germany is going to lose the war..." Hitler - (overhearing this with a bandage around his eyes) NO! NOOOOO! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!, starts
    screaming hysterically etc. I actually burst out laughing at that point

    Also when his girlfriend (Eva) walks infront of him in her new skirt and Hitler pins her down on the sofa like a crazed sex maniac xD
    The sofa 'episode' was my favourite part, you could just hear everybody sniggering
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
    (Original post by Palv)
    Hey, how many marks do people reckon I will lose was not completing my conclusion. I ran out of time The rest of the paper was fine, loved the sources for first controversy.
    In my AS I left out the conclusion completely in one paper and ended up getting an A in that section so I wouldn't worry about it.
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
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    In my AS I left out the conclusion completely in one paper and ended up getting an A in that section so I wouldn't worry about it.
    Thank you, that's a relief, hope they like the rest of my essay though :P
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    Re: A2 Edexcel History Unit 3 12th June 2012 (Discussion)
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    I spoke to my teacher today, she said what we put sounded really good and would be okay as long as we had plenty of evidence supporting
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