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  1. Dishoom-Dishoom's Avatar
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    WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    Which means the idea to physically lock up prisoners who are scenteced to more than 3 years to serve in 'overseas' prisions. Various other elements of civil service are 'outsourced' currently to save money. In the UK it is estimated that each new prison place costs £119000 plus the annual average cost for each prisoner is over £40000. That doesnt include the costs needed to build new prisons and finding the land to build them in the UK. Plus we address all the complaints that serious criminals having an easy life in prison, with cable tv, pool tables, ipods and playstations.

    The idea is that serious criminals ie repeat violent offenders, terrorists, sex offenders etc could serve long scenteces in prisons in asia/africa etc where the cost would be a fraction of what we pay - and also serve as a proper deterrent to crime and repeat crime, which is very high in the uk. With the money saved , could even be used to offer free travel for some family members for visits per year etc

    what do think good idea or bad? see poll
    Last edited by Dishoom-Dishoom; 22-05-2012 at 20:09.
  2. cl_steele's Avatar
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    i just have one question, why on earth would another country want to take our prisoners when they have plenty of there own? i mean im all for the idea of dumping them on some desolate rock, or maybe afghanistan... think you may wish to think your geographical placeing more :P
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    (Original post by cl_steele)
    i just have one question, why on earth would another country want to take our prisoners when they have plenty of there own? i mean im all for the idea of dumping them on some desolate rock, or maybe afghanistan... think you may wish to think your geographical placeing more :P

    to them its a business isnt it - why do some countries take our customer complaints in their call centres? If they get paid a price by HM prisons whcih is probably way more than their national wage average, why should nt they agree - im talking about the countirs that have excess capacity in their jails or have more space in their land to build more prisons.
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    It would certainly quell the arguments that Britain doesn't export enough.
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    Great idea, send them abroad, let them get tortured, and then have our courts force us to pay millions in compensation.
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    Hmm actually a very good idea. Should defo cost less than it is here, im sure other countries dont treat their prisoners like royalty aswell
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    (Original post by zaliack)
    Great idea, send them abroad, let them get tortured, and then have our courts force us to pay millions in compensation.
    Considering the few countries that still torture prisoners most probably have capital punishment in place...I somehow doubt they will be getting any compensation...
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    Cause then our rehabilitation rates, hence our re-offending rates will go through the roof.
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    I say we just turn the Isle of Wight into a prison.
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    Considering the few countries that still torture prisoners most probably have capital punishment in place...I somehow doubt they will be getting any compensation...
    If we send them to a place where they get the death penalty... Well, let's just say our friends at Strasbourg aren't going to be too happy.
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    I think it would be more palatable to bring back the Prison Ships instead.

    As for outsourced prison services, UK already has them, there are several private prison facilities in UK that are run privately, mostly by a security company called G4S.
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    (Original post by zaliack)
    If we send them to a place where they get the death penalty... Well, let's just say our friends at Strasbourg aren't going to be too happy.
    You are sending the prisoner there to serve a sentence according to UK laws, you aren't sending them to that country to be sentenced. Big difference there.
  13. canŵio's Avatar
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    to me, it doesn't seem like a good idea - we'd then have to answer all the questions about human rights bla bla, and then pay lots of money to make sure they're ok. and then we'd have to pay lots of aid to those countries when their population starts to become infected with rapists, murderers and child molesters.

    ps. remember australia?
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    No. Each country has its own responsability to maintain law and order and keep prisoners in jail, in their own country.
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    You are sending the prisoner there to serve a sentence according to UK laws, you aren't sending them to that country to be sentenced. Big difference there.
    Yeah, of course. However, if we send them to a third world country, for example, it seems likely that they'd argue that they are being subjected to an 'inhumane or degrading treatment or sentence', contrary to Art 3 ECHR.
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    What do you think his is 1902? We don't own Asia or Africa any more. We can't just roll up in Uganda, jack land, build concentration camps and dump prisoners there you know....
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    Why not just put them in Wales?

    Fate worse than death.
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    I don't think it's very palatable and I think it's inhumane, this isn't the 17th century anymore.
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    (Original post by Herr)
    You are sending the prisoner there to serve a sentence according to UK laws, you aren't sending them to that country to be sentenced. Big difference there.
    I hate that fact...
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    Re: WHat do you think of the idea to export prisoners
    I heard Australia is nice this kind of year
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