How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?And showing a distinct lack of it maybe i should have put up a clearer sign maybe pretty neon colours and dancing lights for you, with a jingle or something.(Original post by M1011)
In what way have I shown a lack of understanding of Human Beings?
In what way have I given any opinion on the violent nature of humans?
Remind me again, who creates society? Is it perhaps... people?
Come on now, try harder! You're giving our species a bad name, we're supposed to be intelligent you know.
when i said each to thier own - i should specified i cant be bothered any further with you. -
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?I think you may be missing his point. Animals living in the wild, who are hunted will experience pain when they are killed. However they will have lived in their natural habitat all there life.(Original post by Potential Trigger)
This isn't a meat v veg debate. I can see you're accusing me of being a hypocrite. Everyone in my family is vegatarian and is something I have considered. Regardless, my point here is excess physical pain. Laws have been passed to ensure slaughter houses do not cause undue pain, and they are well regulated. I don't doubt there is psychological suffering but there is no pain. Except halal, but that is a different issue altogether.
Animals raised in slaughter houses chicken farms etc, are confined to tiny places there entire life and forced on un-natural diets. Although they are killed in a quicker and more humane way, they experience a worse life then the animals raised in a natural habitat who are hunted.
As animals raised in chicken farms etc experience a worse life then those who are hunted in their natural habitat and it worse for the environment, perhaps hunters should not be demonised so much. -
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?That's the problem with animal welfarism. It's like some people bemoan of halal slaughter but turn a blind eye to crab and lobsters being placed in boiling water alive. My main issue with hunting is that if an infantryman expressed his delight in capturing the enemy and killing them they'd be uproar. Yet, the enemy may well be better equipped to fight back than animals that are hunted by humans. At least the enemy in war know they're in the "game".(Original post by Potential Trigger)
This isn't a meat v veg debate. I can see you're accusing me of being a hypocrite. Everyone in my family is vegatarian and is something I have considered. Regardless, my point here is excess physical pain. Laws have been passed to ensure slaughter houses do not cause undue pain, and they are well regulated. I don't doubt there is psychological suffering but there is no pain. Except halal, but that is a different issue altogether. -
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?Lol, really? This is your defence? You mention a neon sign and a jingle, but fail to specify what it is that you're advertising. Your sentence doesn't even make sense for goodness sake! It's not that you can't be bothered my friend, it's that you've not got a leg to stand on. You find yourself faced against a superior opponent, survival of the fittest and all that right?(Original post by silverbolt)
And showing a distinct lack of it maybe i should have put up a clearer sign maybe pretty neon colours and dancing lights for you, with a jingle or something.
when i said each to thier own - i should specified i cant be bothered any further with you.
Run along now, little internet big mouth, pray next time you come across someone who won't demolish every thought that comes out of that closed little mind of yours.
Such fun
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?LMAO - oh really - oh boy.(Original post by M1011)
Lol, really? This is your defence? You mention a neon sign and a jingle, but fail to specify what it is that you're advertising. Your sentence doesn't even make sense for goodness sake! It's not that you can't be bothered my friend, it's that you've not got a leg to stand on. You find yourself faced against a superior opponent, survival of the fittest and all that right?
Run along now, little internet big mouth, pray next time you come across someone who won't demolish every thought that comes out of that closed little mind of yours.
Such fun
Oh if only you knew how to push my buttons little pimple - here yes you win, im an internet big mouth, youve beaten me, you win, hail to thee. ill slink off and leave you to crow.
Oh that made me giggle
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?Thanks. I think more of you now that I know you're at least big enough to accept your own defeat.(Original post by silverbolt)
yes you win, im an internet big mouth, youve beaten me, you win, hail to thee. ill slink off and leave you to crow.
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?Yes yes yes to the last bit. Doesn't the Americn gov. subsidise intensive animal farming?(Original post by ckingalt)
No hunting hunting is quite common throughout the U.S., and Canada for that matter. It's more of a rural thing than a southern thing. I never hunted so I can't say what the cultural attraction is. I have several mates who hunt and they are not ignorant rednecks. I'd just say it's one of those things that some people grow up doing a so it becomes socially acceptable. I could make a valid argument that much of the international livestock industry causes more suffering in animals than hunting does.Last edited by SophiaKeuning; 23-05-2012 at 16:07. -
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?I am inclined to agree but chose bow hunting as it seems the worst of all.(Original post by sarahthegemini)
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?To be honest hunting using a gun isn't painless either- unless you're a very good shot and you get it right on the head. Not that I agree with hunting animals for food (or fun) in that way.(Original post by Potential Trigger)
So I thought I would make a thread on this. I am specifically referring to hunting in America with a bow and arrow. Tbh I didn't know this kind of thing still existed but I came across some shocking videos on youtube. It is not an instant death and the bigger animals will need multiple hits. Death is rarely quick via shock, usually the arrow can become lodged in a bone or tendon.
How can **** like this be allowed? I am not a veggie or anything like PETA but this is taking it too far.
I am not against culling of animals for population control e.t.c but hunting as a sport especially with medieval weapons seems wrong to me.
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?That's what I am saying. No doubt that is part of the fun for bow hunters. If you look at the comments even other hunters have expressed disgust, saying a kill should be quick. But these guys are normally the kind that hunt for food. Not as a "sport."(Original post by Pawsies)
I just watched that first one. That was horrible, the pig didn't die instantly at all and must have been terrified
Surprised these people are not facing legal action tbh.Last edited by Potential Trigger; 23-05-2012 at 16:15. -
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?That's a really good point.(Original post by Sabertooth)
Why isn't it right? It's totally natural, and these animals were never going to have a nice death - they're wild, so I don't see why dying at the hands of a person is any worse than getting eaten by something else, or stuck in a bear trap, or getting in a fight and dying from an infected wound. -
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?Should we make a law that stops omnivores and herbivores from ever killing another animal?(Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
No because those animals aren't able to survive without meat. If we become rich enough to feed animals without them killing each other, then we should do that.
Hypothetical scenario. We're on a Island. There are 4 communities. Each community consists of 50 people. There cannibalistic community and can't survive without it. 1 community finds a way to survive without killing each other. They outlaw it.
What you're saying is they shouldn't outlaw it and allow it just because the 3 other communities can't survive without human meat. That's not very good reasoning.
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?Are you indicating you're a troll? I've already explained it to you. Look up the example. If we advance to the level that the other 3 communities don't need to kill each other to survive then yes we should stop it. If not then no because I believe murder is justifiable when you're trying to survive. This is why I have no problem with poor Africans hunting and killing animals.(Original post by pr0view)
Should we make a law that stops omnivores and herbivores from ever killing another animal?
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?i'm from the country, it's legal because alot of country people like it & there would probaby be a lot of lawsuits if it became illegal. it's no diffrent than using a gun except its a bow & arrow. i have never been hunting & probably never will but i have a lot of friends who hunt. i do like archery though, but i haven't done it since i was 11! luckily my school has been inspired by tv & the hunger games to have a survial class next year!(yes, i am taking it!
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this one girl i know like to go to western kansas & shoot prarrie dogs when they come out of their holes because if you shoot them at the right angle they fly into the air & spin around!
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?(Original post by pr0view)
Should we make a law that stops omnivores and herbivores from ever killing another animal?
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?derp right to bare arms herp(Original post by potential trigger)
so i thought i would make a thread on this. I am specifically referring to hunting in america with a bow and arrow. Tbh i didn't know this kind of thing still existed but i came across some shocking videos on youtube. It is not an instant death and the bigger animals will need multiple hits. Death is rarely quick via shock, usually the arrow can become lodged in a bone or tendon.
How can **** like this be allowed? I am not a veggie or anything like peta but this is taking it too far.
I am not against culling of animals for population control e.t.c but hunting as a sport especially with medieval weapons seems wrong to me.
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Re: How can bowhunting be allowed in the US?That's how Dick Cheney shot his fellow hunter up the a$$(Original post by Maddog Jones)
derp right to bare arms herp
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