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  1. Molly111's Avatar
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    Ye i agree with you, i think either desire, lonelyness, death or Old south vs New south with come up. I'm hoping the extract will be of scene 11 including Blanches vision of her death because there is alot to talk about there x
    Yeh true, think I'd quite like old/new south. Reeally hope we don't get a poem for unseen - not looking forward to this exam! x
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    Yeh true, think I'd quite like old/new south. Reeally hope we don't get a poem for unseen - not looking forward to this exam! x
    I'm totaly with you on that one, i hate analysising poetry but i think we will end up with one has it hasn't come up at all yet :/ How are you revising for the exam?

    I'm not sure what scene would be used for the old and the new south? maybe one towards the begining showing Blanches high class? Or the first converstation with mitch where she speaks french to which he doesn't unserstand
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    I'm totaly with you on that one, i hate analysising poetry but i think we will end up with one has it hasn't come up at all yet :/ How are you revising for the exam?

    I'm not sure what scene would be used for the old and the new south? maybe one towards the begining showing Blanches high class? Or the first converstation with mitch where she speaks french to which he doesn't unserstand
    Bit of everything really, past papers mainly or just planning what I would write to save time, reading extracts and going over notes, revising the order of events and key dramatic effects in each scene.. it's a bit of a nightmare though, don't really feel like I'm getting anywhere! What about you?

    Yeh that's true I hadn't really thought about which passage they'd use but I would have thought one from the beginning so maybe we won't get it as the previous questions have all already covered the first half of the play?

    also in what context would you mention Labov? I'm okay with Grice but don't feel that confident about Labov and wouldn't want to include a theory if I can't back it up!
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
    (Original post by JodieBean)
    I'm totaly with you on that one, i hate analysising poetry but i think we will end up with one has it hasn't come up at all yet :/ How are you revising for the exam?

    I'm not sure what scene would be used for the old and the new south? maybe one towards the begining showing Blanches high class? Or the first converstation with mitch where she speaks french to which he doesn't unserstand
    what would say old and the new south is just read this now and a bit confused!
    havent heard that before in class or anything

    kinda hoping something between Stanley and Blanche comes up, their relationship is pretty interesting and quite good to write about

    Dont feel very confident tho, feel as thought there is so much to write in such little time :/ with english i never feel as though ive done enough! x x
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    what would say old and the new south is just read this now and a bit confused!
    havent heard that before in class or anything

    kinda hoping something between Stanley and Blanche comes up, their relationship is pretty interesting and quite good to write about

    Dont feel very confident tho, feel as thought there is so much to write in such little time :/ with english i never feel as though ive done enough! x x
    Don't know if this is what Jodie was thinking but I take the Old and New South to mean the clash between the outdated 'southern belle', plantation culture high society that Blanche comes from and the 'New America' that Stanley represents and that Stella has come to accept and live as part of. This is part of the reason why Stanley takes such offense at Blanche calling him a Polak; she isn't used to this new multicultural society but he feels equal to or even better than her.
    Part of Blanche's ruin is her inability to adapt and integrate into this new america, as we see when she lives in New Orleans. She is too thoroughly a Southern Belle and unable to survive in the new South. She copes with the demise of her aristocratic background by descending into insanity whilst Stella turns her back on her childhood and marries new blood in the form of Stanley.
    This is illustrated in the first scene where Blanche appears so uncomfortable with the easy mix of races and grungy overtly sexual atmosphere of the quarter.

    Stanley and Blanche would be good although it's come up before so unlikely. I always seem to write too much for Blanche when she's part of the question so don't know if I'd prefer a theme one! I know I wish we had more like 4 hours, I swear I need an hour just to plan!
    You'll be fine, can't wait till it's all over! xx
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    Bit of everything really, past papers mainly or just planning what I would write to save time, reading extracts and going over notes, revising the order of events and key dramatic effects in each scene.. it's a bit of a nightmare though, don't really feel like I'm getting anywhere! What about you?

    Yeh that's true I hadn't really thought about which passage they'd use but I would have thought one from the beginning so maybe we won't get it as the previous questions have all already covered the first half of the play?

    also in what context would you mention Labov? I'm okay with Grice but don't feel that confident about Labov and wouldn't want to include a theory if I can't back it up!
    Just reading the play really and looking into the dead analysis of some of the scenes - i found a really interesting one about the rape scene. Where Blanche smashes the bottle, alcohol has been her way of escaping reality yet, with stanley forcing her to smash it 'smashes' her illiusions and brings her back to relaity. As she clutches to the last part of the broken bottle, it is as if she if hanging on to her sanity - the small amount left ruined by her sexual desire which will push her over the edge of insanity.

    But ye i agree with you saying the extract will be towards the end of the play. I havent really thought of using theorys within the streetcar but i guess that comes under the lingusitic features. Ummm Labov is the narrative stucture? This may be used on one of blanches speechs - maybe the one where she imagines dieing from an unwashed grape? Would highlight her delusion and spin into insainty as she is imaging her own death; in great detail?
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    I'm so nervous for this exam
    I'm hoping a question comes up that relates to Stanley and Blanche, however I have a feeling a question on minor characters might come up :/
    I'm also dreading section B, I'm struggling with the structure!


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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    what would say old and the new south is just read this now and a bit confused!
    havent heard that before in class or anything

    kinda hoping something between Stanley and Blanche comes up, their relationship is pretty interesting and quite good to write about

    Dont feel very confident tho, feel as thought there is so much to write in such little time :/ with english i never feel as though ive done enough! x x
    Look at how Molly has explained it as that is how i would take that theme on
    I agree with you about the time limit! Its such a small amount of time to write so much!

    (Original post by Molly111)
    Don't know if this is what Jodie was thinking but I take the Old and New South to mean the clash between the outdated 'southern belle', plantation culture high society that Blanche comes from and the 'New America' that Stanley represents and that Stella has come to accept and live as part of. This is part of the reason why Stanley takes such offense at Blanche calling him a Polak; she isn't used to this new multicultural society but he feels equal to or even better than her.
    Part of Blanche's ruin is her inability to adapt and integrate into this new america, as we see when she lives in New Orleans. She is too thoroughly a Southern Belle and unable to survive in the new South. She copes with the demise of her aristocratic background by descending into insanity whilst Stella turns her back on her childhood and marries new blood in the form of Stanley.
    This is illustrated in the first scene where Blanche appears so uncomfortable with the easy mix of races and grungy overtly sexual atmosphere of the quarter.

    Stanley and Blanche would be good although it's come up before so unlikely. I always seem to write too much for Blanche when she's part of the question so don't know if I'd prefer a theme one! I know I wish we had more like 4 hours, I swear I need an hour just to plan!
    You'll be fine, can't wait till it's all over! xx
    I think i would prefer a theme too! I think desire would be a good one I totaly agree though, i just want it to be over now! Although i do have an ICT exam the day after -__- xx
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    I'm so nervous for this exam
    I'm hoping a question comes up that relates to Stanley and Blanche, however I have a feeling a question on minor characters might come up :/
    I'm also dreading section B, I'm struggling with the structure!


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    Stanley and Blanche have already come up once so i dont think it will again :/ like i was dicussing with Molly, i think a theme will come up :/
    I think section B is hard too - i predict it will be a poem that comes up (i really hope its a play)xx
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    (Original post by JodieBean)
    Stanley and Blanche have already come up once so i dont think it will again :/ like i was dicussing with Molly, i think a theme will come up :/
    I think section B is hard too - i predict it will be a poem that comes up (i really hope its a play)xx
    Let's just hope they give us a theme that's easy to write about
    I quite like the North/South one - obviously it depends on the extract they give us, but I reckon that wouldn't be too bad :')
    I would love it if a play came up - I'm awful at analysing poetry


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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    Let's just hope they give us a theme that's easy to write about
    I quite like the North/South one - obviously it depends on the extract they give us, but I reckon that wouldn't be too bad :')
    I would love it if a play came up - I'm awful at analysing poetry


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    I think desire would be a good theme, or lonleyness!
    i agree though i hate analysising poetry!
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
    The best theme to come up IMO would be "delusion", I'm agreed with most that a question about a theme is likely be asked, although I'd prefer relationship as it's more straight forward to answer in comparison to a theme.

    I really want monday to just come & go in all honesty I've got 4 hours worth of exams, psychology in the morning then this in the afternoon ...fml :facepalm:
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    The best theme to come up IMO would be "delusion", I'm agreed with most that a question about a theme is likely be asked, although I'd prefer relationship as it's more straight forward to answer in comparison to a theme.

    I really want monday to just come & go in all honesty I've got 4 hours worth of exams, psychology in the morning then this in the afternoon ...fml :facepalm:
    The theme of delusion has already come up , Jan 10, but i agree i thinkg it would have been a good theme to talk about!

    I want it just to be over with now too :/ not nice to have an exam on the morning to! They dont organize the exam time very well do they :')

    I was just reading a past paper ms of streetcar and it mentions other scenes within the explination of the question. So do you think referencing point from other scenes back would be worth it?

    In your opinion, other than delusion, what other theme do you think may come up? The only main relationship which hasn't been asked is Stella and Stanley - yet Jan 12 question was on Stella's views on marriage which is partly their relationship :/
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    The theme of delusion has already come up , Jan 10, but i agree i thinkg it would have been a good theme to talk about!

    I want it just to be over with now too :/ not nice to have an exam on the morning to! They dont organize the exam time very well do they :')

    I was just reading a past paper ms of streetcar and it mentions other scenes within the explination of the question. So do you think referencing point from other scenes back would be worth it?
    In your opinion, other than delusion, what other theme do you think may come up? The only main relationship which hasn't been asked is Stella and Stanley - yet Jan 12 question was on Stella's views on marriage which is partly their relationship :/
    Ah s*** that's the easiest theme gone then.

    We have been told to contextualise in the introduction that way we can show the examiner our knowledge of the play. So I always say what has happened previously & what happens afterwards, only mention the relevent things obviously. For example if it was an extract of scene 10, then mention Stanley displaying his dominance & his controlling nature from the poker situation or him revealing the truth to Stella & Mitch, along with him bathing in the glory of Blanche's downfall in the final scene. With Blanche you would refer to her false nature & the "mask" she wears in previous scenes when belittling Stanley.

    I think social class would be my second choice of theme, finger crossed!
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    Ah s*** that's the easiest theme gone then.

    We have been told to contextualise in the introduction that way we can show the examiner our knowledge of the play. So I always say what has happened previously & what happens afterwards, only mention the relevent things obviously. For example if it was an extract of scene 10, then mention Stanley displaying his dominance & his controlling nature from the poker situation or him revealing the truth to Stella & Mitch, along with him bathing in the glory of Blanche's downfall in the final scene. With Blanche you would refer to her false nature & the "mask" she wears in previous scenes when belittling Stanley.

    I think social class would be my second choice of theme, finger crossed!
    Yeah Social class is a good one - the only themes i can thing of would be: Desire, social class/old & new south, lonleyness and violence :/
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    (Original post by JodieBean)
    I think desire would be a good theme, or lonleyness!
    i agree though i hate analysising poetry!
    Yeah, they'd both be quite good themes to write about
    How have you been revising for the section B part of the exam? I'm finding it quite difficult :/


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    Yeah, they'd both be quite good themes to write about
    How have you been revising for the section B part of the exam? I'm finding it quite difficult :/


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    I have found it quite hard really. I have wrote a few questions and thats it really! :/ I just think its hard to compare spontanious speech with poetry because there not any direct speech! -__- knowing my luck it will be a poem too...
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    Just reading the play really and looking into the dead analysis of some of the scenes - i found a really interesting one about the rape scene. Where Blanche smashes the bottle, alcohol has been her way of escaping reality yet, with stanley forcing her to smash it 'smashes' her illiusions and brings her back to relaity. As she clutches to the last part of the broken bottle, it is as if she if hanging on to her sanity - the small amount left ruined by her sexual desire which will push her over the edge of insanity.

    But ye i agree with you saying the extract will be towards the end of the play. I havent really thought of using theorys within the streetcar but i guess that comes under the lingusitic features. Ummm Labov is the narrative stucture? This may be used on one of blanches speechs - maybe the one where she imagines dieing from an unwashed grape? Would highlight her delusion and spin into insainty as she is imaging her own death; in great detail?
    Ah that is interesting! And could well come up.. Also read somewhere that in smashing the bottle she is a mirror image of Stanley who smashed the lightbulbs with Stella's slipper on their wedding night. This symbol links the two characters which ironic as it is at the culmination of their conflict. Also she must be really desperate; stooping to his level of violence etc.

    Yeh if I can I'll try and force the theory in anywhere haha.. Yeh I think Grice would be most relevant although they're both probably best in the unseen section. Yeh true, maybe it would be okay to talk about how by following Labov's narrative structure Blanche's upper class, more formal idiolect is conveyed..? Waffling a bit here, maybe the theory for streetcar isn't such a great idea!
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    Re: ELLB3 A2 - StreetCar Named Desire
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    Ah s*** that's the easiest theme gone then.

    We have been told to contextualise in the introduction that way we can show the examiner our knowledge of the play. So I always say what has happened previously & what happens afterwards, only mention the relevent things obviously. For example if it was an extract of scene 10, then mention Stanley displaying his dominance & his controlling nature from the poker situation or him revealing the truth to Stella & Mitch, along with him bathing in the glory of Blanche's downfall in the final scene. With Blanche you would refer to her false nature & the "mask" she wears in previous scenes when belittling Stanley.

    I think social class would be my second choice of theme, finger crossed!
    Yeh we're told to do this too in the intro.

    Also could Alcohol/light + dark be possible themes? Or what about relentlessness or something, I know it sounds pretty out there but I thought delusion was a bit of a strange one..

    Can't wait till this is done! And that is waaay too many exams for one day!
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