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  1. Aisha~~'s Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    He'll need 300 grams of protein, plenty of good fat, and moderate glycemic carbs for a total of perhaps 5-6000 calories per day. I typically advise that 4 big meals and a gallon of whole milk per day will get the job done better than just about any other approach for a novice.
    WAT
  2. Arturo Bandini's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    Yeah this is a typical rippetoe article tbh
  3. Motorbiker's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by iSMark)
    6"2

    192lb

    Happy now? I'm not, and I doubt it helps the discussion either.

    I can't exactly remember the gain in weight over the last 6 months. I'm just satisfied with the level I'm at.
    "How much has you squat/bench/deadlift/press gone up in the last 6 months?"

    If you act sarcastic and try avoiding a question and they pretend to answer it. Answering it would be good start...

    Or like TTT says, 192lbs is low for a bench, squat or deadlift.
  4. chrislpp's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by Aisha~~)
    WAT
    What?

    SS puts tremendous stress on the body, what do you expect?
  5. iSMark's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by Motorbiker)
    "How much has you squat/bench/deadlift/press gone up in the last 6 months?"

    If you act sarcastic and try avoiding a question and they pretend to answer it. Answering it would be good start...

    Or like TTT says, 192lbs is low for a bench, squat or deadlift.
    It's not low, as that is how much I weigh....some people are retarded.
  6. iSMark's Avatar
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    (Original post by The Troll Toll)
    So wait do you squat 6'2 and bench 192 lbs or the other way round?
    I weigh 6"2 and I'm 192lbs tall. and also Yes.
  7. Motorbiker's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by iSMark)
    It's not low, as that is how much I weigh....some people are retarded.
    It's very off topic from the OP now but the point was you were asked how much you could squat/bench/deadlift as well as your weight. You then dismissed these questions and then answered the other question the second time. Ignoring the main question you were being asked...

    Me and TTT weren't being retarded here. WE were joking that you seemed incapable of answering questions even when being asked them repeatedly...
  8. iSMark's Avatar
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    (Original post by Motorbiker)
    It's very off topic from the OP now but the point was you were asked how much you could squat/bench/deadlift as well as your weight. You then dismissed these questions and then answered the other question the second time. Ignoring the main question you were being asked...

    Me and TTT weren't being retarded here. WE were joking that you seemed incapable of answering questions even when being asked them repeatedly...
    I lift 2000lb

    Happy?

    Now as you say, back on topic.
  9. Like a BAWS's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    4 Meals + a whole gallon of milk a DAY ?

    The amount of muscle you build isnt directly proportional to the amount of food you eat, you're only gonna build so much muscle every time you work out. So in my opinion, it seems stupid to have so many calories in one day, it will just turn into fat, pointless. Why not just have say an extra 300 calories ontop of what you should be having to maintain your size, rather than having a ridiculous amount of calories every day which will just make you fat?
  10. willbee's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    If people want to be lean, let them be lean. What business is it to you?
  11. zjs's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    I'll always agree with the salient point: that training for strength and size is more important than trying to get 'ripped' from the outset.

    However, it's possible to make very good strength and size gains without ballooning like a powerlifter. Yes, of course, it might not be absolutely, 100%, completely, optimal to not be doing GOMAD + 3000 calories, but most people aren't training for powerlifting or strongman competitions. It's better to have the flexibility and fitness that results from dialling the diet down a little (i.e. eating big and putting on some fat, but not disregarding it altogether).

    Also, this 'well you're not gonna be walkin' around naked, are you?' attitude is all well and good, but I think it all rather misses the point. Generally, if you're attempting to get laid, or currently have someone willing to sleep with you in whatever sort of relationship category that might be (hopefully not a financially induced one), the point at which you're naked becomes more frequent and aesthetics become more of a factor. Rippetoe seems to be writing this article entirely from the viewpoint of how you look and relate to other guys.

    (Original post by Chumbaniya)
    I know this is going off on a bit of a tangent, but even though I appreciate, as someone who primarily trains (when I actually bother) for strength, that it's nice to think of strength training as functional, it's a bit of a myth. The best Rippetoe can come up with in terms of being useful is a single niche career (and not even all military roles) and a few recreational activities.

    It's time the strength training community accepted that barbell training is something you do for fun, and in the majority of cases people who think it's actually useful are fooling themselves. I'm not saying barbell training is bad, but in the vast majority of cases it doesn't make you any more useful than, say, playing badminton would. It's healthy to be active, sure, but this macho idea that being strong is important doesn't really wash.
    True, strength isn't quite as important as some strength practitioners make it out to be, but it can have a lot of practical utility. Things like carrying a suitcase or having the strength to lift someone up and keep them there with relatively little effort (coming across as if I have a one track mind, tbf) are both things that add some positive benefit to your life - albeit with little in the way of discernible advantage over keeping fit and healthy.

    That said, I've had to work a lot of jobs that involve some degree of manual labour, i.e. hauling heavy things around. A greater degree of strength is very useful in this line of work, even though it's hardly something I'll be continuing as soon as I'm able to move into my chosen field.
    Last edited by zjs; 25-05-2012 at 23:26.
  12. The Troll Toll's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by iSMark)
    I lift 2000lb

    Happy?

    Now as you say, back on topic.
    Did you drop it on your head?
  13. iSMark's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by The Troll Toll)
    Did you drop it on your head?
    Yes I dropped 6"2 on my head.
  14. iSMark's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by The Troll Toll)
    Did you drop it on your head?
    I love trolling trolls
  15. The Troll Toll's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    It's more meta than you know.
  16. Aisha~~'s Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by chrislpp)
    What?

    SS puts tremendous stress on the body, what do you expect?
    Bahaha
  17. martinebeadwin's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    Lol some ppl here acting like the wud be dissapointed if they woke up jacked the next day with 6-pack, of course they arent trynna impress girrls LMAO
  18. Illidan_Stormrage's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    5000-6000 calories a day for a guy who is starting out lifting quite light 3 times a week. Ok.
  19. Classical Liberal's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    I would rather be trim, be able to do plenty of pull ups and be generally fit and than some fat muscle bound plonker who can deadlift a trillion pounds.
  20. Illidan_Stormrage's Avatar
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    Re: To all the 'lean bulkers' out there
    (Original post by Classical Liberal)
    I would rather be trim, be able to do plenty of pull ups and be generally fit and than some fat muscle bound plonker who can deadlift a trillion pounds.
    It doesn't have to be one or the other. In the deadlift there are quite a few people who have deadlifted very heavy weights without being fat.
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