[AliceElizabeth19]

(Original post by Mishmashmoo)
Roaccutane. Risky and hard but effective.

I'm going to see about going on it in September/ October if there is no other treatment

[Dfurness]

Try an aspirin facial every few days, it actually works.

[Mishmashmoo]

(Original post by AliceElizabeth19)
I'm going to see about going on it in September/ October if there is no other treatment

I struggled with acne for years and I finally went to see a specialist about roaccutane and it was the best decision I've made when it comes to acne. I'm almost totally clear now, apart from the occasional breakout of 1 or 2 small spots

[lizzic]

(Original post by AliceElizabeth19)
Hello hello,
I was just wondering if anyone has any advice on acne treatments? I've had my acne since I was 10 years old and I'm 20 now, I'm fed up with the damn stuff on my face XD

So far I have tried:
Duac + tetralysal (only got this combination a week ago)
Erythromycin tablets + solution
Dianette
Microgynon
Panoxyl aquagel (benzoyl peroxide 10%)

I must say this before anyone mentions it, I do have a healthy diet. I drink at least 9 glasses of water a day, eat healthy foods and I make sure I have a very low intake of any sugars, oil and 'fatty' foods which I've been doing for the last 8 years of my life -.-

I just want to know if anyone has any suggestions that would help ease my acne?
I'm going to see if I can see a dermatologist when I go to university in September if it doesn't improve within these next 4 months but I just want a day where I can just look at my face without thinking how ugly it is with the amount of crap on my face XD

Hi I used to have spots up until I went on the yasmin contraceptive pill. it balances your hormones. It looks like your diet is ok so i'd suggest looking for other reasons such as stress, hormones etc.
Even though my skin is fine now thanks to the pill, i can still break out sometimes so i make sure i use products that have little or no nasty chemicals such as parabens, SLS, phenoxyethanol etc and this has really helped the condition of my skin.
I use naturalelements face wash and toner or origins or lush (not joking...this company actually have sell by dates on their stuff meaning there are little r no preservtives!!! ...yes the place that smells really strong as you walk past it!!! haha), loccataine are also ok (i use their plant water face spritz)
for moisturiser i always use jojoba oil. it does not clog your pores like a normal oil would and actually balances the oil in youir face (if you mix two drops of jojoba oil with one drop of lavender or rose essential oil this can help control acne)
your skin is your skin though. these may not work for you but i have found them brilliant.
btw it is hard work trying to find a comapany that doesnt use ANY chemicals. some try and trick you and say 'organic products used' to make out it is all organic but it may not be. it has to be certified as organic (the whole product).

hope this helps!!!!!!

[Loucornall]

(Original post by AliceElizabeth19)
I'm afraid I'd never go near sunbeds, they do more bad than good for you overall plus sunlight or sunbed exposure hasn't been proven to help acne. I've been trying to keep to drinking milk on a daily basis to help prevent osteoporosis

what about alpro almond milk? it has calcium and vitamins added and also their soya yogurts are actually really yummy, we give them my 3 year old daughter when she has a bad break out, we give her goats milk (it doesnt have the same proteins in it as what causes bad reactions with cows milk) as well which i was a bit scared of trying but in tea and coffee it tastes the same and my daughter will drink glasses of it and is happy with it x

[Anonymous]

(Original post by AliceElizabeth19)
Hello hello,
I was just wondering if anyone has any advice on acne treatments? I've had my acne since I was 10 years old and I'm 20 now, I'm fed up with the damn stuff on my face XD

So far I have tried:
Duac + tetralysal (only got this combination a week ago)
Erythromycin tablets + solution
Dianette
Microgynon
Panoxyl aquagel (benzoyl peroxide 10%)

I must say this before anyone mentions it, I do have a healthy diet. I drink at least 9 glasses of water a day, eat healthy foods and I make sure I have a very low intake of any sugars, oil and 'fatty' foods which I've been doing for the last 8 years of my life -.-

I just want to know if anyone has any suggestions that would help ease my acne?
I'm going to see if I can see a dermatologist when I go to university in September if it doesn't improve within these next 4 months but I just want a day where I can just look at my face without thinking how ugly it is with the amount of crap on my face XD

Do you masturbate?

Two friends of mine have told me that they stopped doing the deed and their acne was gone within a relatively short amount of time. However whenever they could not resist temptation, it came back generally within a period of a few days and then following that the spots took another week or two to clear up. People will tell you that there are no scientific studies that prove this, no solid link etc. but read these accounts and then decide for yourself. Best of luck

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/ind...-casuses-acne/
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/ind...periment-2012/

There are more if you care to look.

Also if you look up Vitamin D and acne, you'll find that has also been categorised as somewhat of a "miracle cure" by some.

[HDBrowne]

(Original post by Classical Liberal)
GPs don't have a ****ing clue. They do not really understand it, and will just hand you antibiotics to kill the bacteria. Anyway, it is an absolute disgrace that the NHS is going around saying that acne is not caused by diet. I am sure in some cases it is not. But for the most part it could probably be cured by having an ideal diet.

The problem is that there is no financial imperative for anybody to seriously finance an acne is caused by diet study. There is plenty of incentive to produce drugs and creams on the other hand.

I'm about to go to the Doctors to get more Zinc for my skin it works for me...,,,

yeah a GP and it works... yet nothing else does.... I would love to sue Cleresel for false advertising -_-

[Classical Liberal]

(Original post by AliceElizabeth19)
But young females especially need dairy in their diet to help prevent osteoporosis when we're older

Why would the same principle not apply to men?

Any health benefits of diary are usually a myth. The diary industry is brilliant at coming up with bull****. Remember the "got milk" campaign? Do you suppose that was public health promotion or an attempt to sell more diary on the basis of it being "healthy".

There is nothing natural about ingesting the produce of cows that are full of hormones. Early man did not go up to cows and think "****, I need to milk that thing and drink it". Early man never had access to diary beyond childhood. We are not evolved to need diary. Our digestive system does not like it. And we do not need it.

If a cave man would not recognise it as food, you probably don't need to eat it.

I love diary products. But the bottom line is that they are not healthy. Should should be treated for what they are, junk food.

If you are so worried about osteoperosis why not do resistance training, that will actually strengthen your bones.

[Classical Liberal]

(Original post by timeofflight)
Sebum production is genetically determined and not the cause of acne. Where do you get this stuff from? Its not true and I worry about people (who are in a bad place from acne) believing you. Please stop getting in the way of facts and things that might help these people.

From doing some research and trying things out on myself.

I can tell you from experience that diet does effect your skin. I can deliberately give myself really bad acne. It is very easy. I just need to have a diet with lots of diary, simple carbs (pasta, rice, bread) and sugary foods, whilst not having any oily fish, veggies and fruits.

And when you have acne, and you feel like you can atleast have some control over it with your diet, it feels much better than thinking you cannot do anything to deal with it other than taking drugs. My acne has gotten worse since about a month ago. The reason being I went away on holiday, which meant my diet changed (ended up eating wayyy too many carbs). I ended up getting a fair few big inflammed spots. Since I have got back home, got back on my diet, my skin is not breaking out.

And anyway having a diet to try and clear up your skin is just good for your health generally. You will be fitter, live longer, have more energy, be smarter etc.

The best thing to do for acne is to use both topological treatments, benzoyl peroxide, and dietary adjustments. The most powerful diet being a prolonged fast, there are lots of stories of people actually getting rid of ice pick scarring through fasting for like a month. And when I did a 3 day fast, my red scars definitely started to fade.

You are what you eat, literally, and what you eat and how you eat it, effects your entire body. I just wish somebody had told me this earlier, particularly my GP who should have known better, but hey they don't give a ****.

[twoforjoy]

(Original post by AliceElizabeth19)
Urgh I hated dianette it gave me the worst headaches possible and I ended up having to miss 2 months of university cos of it, I'm on tetralysal right now with skinoren but I've never heard of Yasmin before it hasn't got benzoyl peroxide in it right?

Nope, Yasmin is a contraceptive pill. I think it has a higher risk of blood clots but it's really been the only thing that worked for me. I still get spots but now I'm just hoping I grow out of them with age.

[JoEdBo]

(Original post by AliceElizabeth19)
I'm going to see about going on it in September/ October if there is no other treatment

Im on roaccutane the only side effects I have had are dry lips and I've had my dosage upped to two a day now(been on it 2months).

Its not as bad as people think, you only hear the bad stories online which are in the minority, I wouldn't worry about it.

[timeofflight]

(Original post by Classical Liberal)
From doing some research and trying things out on myself.

I can tell you from experience that diet does effect your skin. I can deliberately give myself really bad acne. It is very easy. I just need to have a diet with lots of diary, simple carbs (pasta, rice, bread) and sugary foods, whilst not having any oily fish, veggies and fruits.

And when you have acne, and you feel like you can atleast have some control over it with your diet, it feels much better than thinking you cannot do anything to deal with it other than taking drugs. My acne has gotten worse since about a month ago. The reason being I went away on holiday, which meant my diet changed (ended up eating wayyy too many carbs). I ended up getting a fair few big inflammed spots. Since I have got back home, got back on my diet, my skin is not breaking out.

And anyway having a diet to try and clear up your skin is just good for your health generally. You will be fitter, live longer, have more energy, be smarter etc.

The best thing to do for acne is to use both topological treatments, benzoyl peroxide, and dietary adjustments. The most powerful diet being a prolonged fast, there are lots of stories of people actually getting rid of ice pick scarring through fasting for like a month. And when I did a 3 day fast, my red scars definitely started to fade.

You are what you eat, literally, and what you eat and how you eat it, effects your entire body. I just wish somebody had told me this earlier, particularly my GP who should have known better, but hey they don't give a ****.

Even for you as an individual we can't say for sure diet is the case. It could all just be a placebo. I agree a good diet is good for you (which entirely concurs with the NHS advice you want to ignore) but it is not going to cure anyone's acne. There is limited evidence that fasting is beneficial and in any way and has never been studied in relation to acne.

[timeofflight]

(Original post by Classical Liberal)
Why would the same principle not apply to men?

Because the VAST majority of people with osteoporosis are women.

(Original post by Classical Liberal)
Any health benefits of diary are usually a myth. The diary industry is brilliant at coming up with bull****. Remember the "got milk" campaign? Do you suppose that was public health promotion or an attempt to sell more diary on the basis of it being "healthy".

Of course it's to do with selling milk! Thats what all adverts are for. Any advert will sell you the good points (real or otherwise) of any product. The FACTS are that there has never been any proven health risk to the general population from the consumption of dairy.

(Original post by Classical Liberal)
There is nothing natural about ingesting the produce of cows that are full of hormones. Early man did not go up to cows and think "****, I need to milk that thing and drink it". Early man never had access to diary beyond childhood. We are not evolved to need diary. Our digestive system does not like it. And we do not need it.

If a cave man would not recognise it as food, you probably don't need to eat it.

I don't know why you think cave men should be our role models. There are all kinds of things that they didn't do and would be a really great idea. We have moved on. Unless you our intolerant then dairy is completely ok. If you are intolerant and have consumed a lot of dairy acne will be the least of your worries.

[wwelol]

take all milk sources out of ure diet - ice cream, milk, yougart, milkshakes, cereal etc etc
and take the acnamino tablets from ure GP and use zineryt
and at the same time take out milk sources this is the most important when taking the tablet
u will see results in days/weeks

let me know ure progress


take milk out

[Classical Liberal]

(Original post by timeofflight)
I don't know why you think cave men should be our role models. There are all kinds of things that they didn't do and would be a really great idea. We have moved on. Unless you our intolerant then dairy is completely ok. If you are intolerant and have consumed a lot of dairy acne will be the least of your worries.

Our digestive system, our bodies, derive from the wild. We evolved from monkeys. We evolved to eat the food that was available to us. We are designed to eat stuff that you can find in the wild (and we also designed to fast, like you would in the wild).

We are not designed to eat mass produced grains (simple carbs) and stuff that comes out of cows that have been drugged up.

We evolved over millions of years to eat what was available in the wild. As compared to the decades we have had to adjust to modern diets.

[llessur123]

Accutane is the only thing that worked for me. It's a serious drug so you have to consider it carefully, but I'd recommend it. It treats the core of the problem instead of just managing the symptoms. You've had it for 10 years and tired a lot of things, sounds like you should ask your GP about it.

[llessur123]

(Original post by AliceElizabeth19)
I've heard of Quinoderm but always been a bit weary of it as it made my friends skin peel off to the extent that she needed to go to the doctors to get a cream to help repair her skin :s ... If I'm honest I'm trying my best to avoid Roaccutane if I can as I saw the side effects with my brother plus I don't want to take away the option of kids in the future if I ever changed as it can make you infertile

I'll see if I can get a sample size of Quinoderm though
Thank you for the suggestions

Infertility is not a documented side effect of roaccutane.

[Classical Liberal]

(Original post by timeofflight)
Even for you as an individual we can't say for sure diet is the case. It could all just be a placebo. I agree a good diet is good for you (which entirely concurs with the NHS advice you want to ignore) but it is not going to cure anyone's acne. There is limited evidence that fasting is beneficial and in any way and has never been studied in relation to acne.

How could it be a placebo? I am not taking a pretend diet.

Actually no. There is loads and loads of evidence that fasting is brilliant for you. And at the very least, it is what humans are designed to do. Humans are designed to be able to go long peroids of time without digesting food. And during this time the body stops producing so many new cells and starts repairing the damaged ones.

[timeofflight]

(Original post by Classical Liberal)
How could it be a placebo? I am not taking a pretend diet.

Actually no. There is loads and loads of evidence that fasting is brilliant for you. And at the very least, it is what humans are designed to do. Humans are designed to be able to go long peroids of time without digesting food. And during this time the body stops producing so many new cells and starts repairing the damaged ones.

On the contrary, you would have to take a pretend diet, one that you equally believed in to know that it's not a placebo. You are subjecting yourself to an intervention that you believe to work. That is no different to a placebo. I would like to see the evidence for this, because every study I have read has suggested that the long term effects were likely to lead to inflammatory response.

[timeofflight]

(Original post by Classical Liberal)
Our digestive system, our bodies, derive from the wild. We evolved from monkeys. We evolved to eat the food that was available to us. We are designed to eat stuff that you can find in the wild (and we also designed to fast, like you would in the wild).

We are not designed to eat mass produced grains (simple carbs) and stuff that comes out of cows that have been drugged up.

We evolved over millions of years to eat what was available in the wild. As compared to the decades we have had to adjust to modern diets.

We know a lot more about nutrition than they did. Just because things are natural doesn't make them great by default.