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Doctor who helped CIA find Bin Laden jailed for 30 years by Pakistan for treason

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Original post by Steevee
It's Pakistan, what do you expect? It's hard to find a more duplicitous nation on this Earth.


If your nation did this you probably would agree with it, you just seem to hate the fact a "muslim" country did this.
Original post by ChampEon
I agree. After all these years, they still don't have the decency and balls to apologise to Bangladesh for the 1971 atrocities where they systematically killed an estimated 3 million Bengalis.


Did the USA apologise to vietnam and japan (only for the nukes)?
Did turkey apologize for Armenian genocide?

Most countries don't.
33 years only? Should've been death.
Funny how his wife is a american citizen working as a headteacher in a school in the tribal areas aswell.
On an unrelated note - the fake vaccination scheme is absolutely GENIUS. I truly hope he doesn't get convicted.
Original post by isawsparks89
On an unrelated note - the fake vaccination scheme is absolutely GENIUS. I truly hope he doesn't get convicted.


He's already been given the sentence. But yh that was genius.
Original post by Study
He's already been given the sentence. But yh that was genius.


Oh has he? Must've skimmed over that. Like so many others here, I'm meant to be revising, so I was just passing through :lurk:

That's sad stuff, truly was genius.
Original post by Study
Did the USA apologise to vietnam and japan (only for the nukes)?
Did turkey apologize for Armenian genocide?

Most countries don't.


You're talking exactly like an Israeli trying to justify the attacks on Palestinians by changing the subject, and it sickens me.
I don't care about 'most countries'. I was talking about Bangladesh and Pakistan. The USA was at war with Vietnam and Japan. They actually fought each other and it was over political reasons.
Pakistan however was a cowardly nation. They just went over to Bangladesh and massacred 3 million people who were of the same colour and religion. Now, I don't hate Pakistanis, I have nothing against them. But if you are actually trying to justify the actions of your corrupt government and army then I seriously implore you make the pilgrimage to Hajj to clear your mind because you're not thinking as a Muslim.
Original post by ChampEon
You're talking exactly like an Israeli trying to justify the attacks on Palestinians by changing the subject, and it sickens me.
I don't care about 'most countries'. I was talking about Bangladesh and Pakistan. The USA was at war with Vietnam and Japan. They actually fought each other and it was over political reasons.
Pakistan however was a cowardly nation. They just went over to Bangladesh and massacred 3 million people who were of the same colour and religion. Now, I don't hate Pakistanis, I have nothing against them. But if you are actually trying to justify the actions of your corrupt government and army then I seriously implore you make the pilgrimage to Hajj to clear your mind because you're not thinking as a Muslim.


Mass murder is mass murder no matter the scenario.
I like how you justify Americas massacres like that but then point out faults in others.

And what part of my post said I thought it was ok? Or that it was justified, I just said countries who commit mass murder (other then pakistan) also don't seem to apologise.
Read my post properly before pulling insane conclusions out of thin air.

And for the bold part in your post lol seriously, you don't how good/bad a muslim I am, so please put a lid in it.
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Original post by Perseveranze
No one (who has actually studied the life of Bin laden) is going to believe Bin Laden had a stash of porn


Why?
Reply 109
Original post by Study
If your nation did this you probably would agree with it, you just seem to hate the fact a "muslim" country did this.


I dislike the fact it's an Islamic country to be sure, but it's not the fact it's Islamic that is the problem.
I refuse to believe anything about Bin Laden until I see original footage of them killing and eventually burying him in the sea...
AFAIK he died a longgg time ago
Original post by JJames
I read that as Doctor Who helped CIA find Bin Laden. (It's been a long day)

I hope he does get granted citizenship though.


Isnt that what it says? :confused:
Original post by Study
Mass murder is mass murder no matter the scenario.
I like how you justify Americas massacres like that but then point out faults in others.

And what part of my post said I thought it was ok? Or that it was justified, I just said countries who commit mass murder (other then pakistan) also don't seem to apologise.
Read my post properly before pulling insane conclusions out of thin air.

And for the bold part in your post lol seriously, you don't how good/bad a muslim I am, so please put a lid in it.


I don't know what on earth you're going on about. I'm talking about two countries, Bangladesh and Pakistan. Now concentrate. Don't change the subject to America or Japan or whatever. Pakistan massacred 3 million Bangladeshis and did not apologise. It's as simple as that.
Reply 113
Original post by Perseveranze

That guy is lucky he hasn't been executed. You never ever give a Muslim over to foreigners


Isn't this the sort of mentality that Baroness Warsi and others were referring to in the case of the Rochdale paedophiles, and how "the community" would not inform on them to the police?

Original post by Perseveranze
Even if the Muslim had committed some crime, your meant to hand him over to Muslims who can try him by the Shariah


Ditto.
Reply 114
Original post by ChampEon
I don't know what on earth you're going on about. I'm talking about two countries, Bangladesh and Pakistan. Now concentrate. Don't change the subject to America or Japan or whatever. Pakistan massacred 3 million Bangladeshis and did not apologise. It's as simple as that.


Sorry for butting in, but it is fair for Study to point out that other nations have done what Pakistan did. The Pakistani military's actions in East Pakistan were terrible, but so was the American military's in Indochina, and in neither occasion has there been an apology. It is fair for Study to point this out, when you are making judgement on Pakistan as a nation for its military actions in the past. Would you pass the same judgement on the US because of it's actions in the past which are similar to Pakistan's?
Reply 115
What is it with people thinking he died a long time ago? Why would al Qaeda and the Taliban willingly go along with the US on this?
Original post by Rat_Bag
Sorry for butting in, but it is fair for Study to point out that other nations have done what Pakistan did. The Pakistani military's actions in East Pakistan were terrible, but so was the American military's in Indochina, and in neither occasion has there been an apology. It is fair for Study to point this out, when you are making judgement on Pakistan as a nation for its military actions in the past. Would you pass the same judgement on the US because of it's actions in the past which are similar to Pakistan's?


There are lots of countries that are guilty of killing innocent people and I would be dumb to deny that. But Pakistan and Bangladesh were ONE COUNTRY. They were people of the SAME RELIGION and SAME ETHNICITY. It wasn't a long distant war or battle, it was genocide. And it happened very recently, only in the last 40 years. So give me one reason why Pakistan shouldn't apologise for taking 3,000,000 lives, for killing most of Bangladesh's greatest students and professors and dumping them in a pit, for raping 300,000 women?

Give me ONE reason.
Reply 117
He was serving a foreign government?

I don't have much truck for islamists, but Pakistan's stance is actually very reasonable.

Be very careful about overriding national soverignity in the name of moral imperatives, morality is not universal.
Reply 119
Original post by ChampEon
There are lots of countries that are guilty of killing innocent people and I would be dumb to deny that. But Pakistan and Bangladesh were ONE COUNTRY.


How does that change things? Why is an apology more pertinent than American's need to apologise for Vietnam?

Original post by ChampEon

They were people of the SAME RELIGION and SAME ETHNICITY.


How does that change things? Why is an apology more pertinent than American's need to apologise for Vietnam?

Original post by ChampEon

It wasn't a long distant war or battle, it was genocide. And it happened very recently, only in the last 40 years.
So give me one reason why Pakistan shouldn't apologise for taking 3,000,000 lives, for killing most of Bangladesh's greatest students and professors and dumping them in a pit, for raping 300,000 women?

Give me ONE reason.


They should apologise. As should a whole host of other countries for their crimes. Why single out Pakistan?

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