[Chi019]

I suspect if the father and son were black and the gang were white, the BBC reporting may have been different.

There was no mention of the ethnicity of those arrested or what form the violence took. All three reports from Sunday, Monday and Tuesday were tailored in such a way as to make this killing look like a ‘typical’ consequence of the innate violence associated with a certain type of English football fan:

The victims were found close to The Ox and Gate pub, where several people had gathered to watch the Champions League final on TV.

An eyewitness who was inside the pub told BBC London that as fans celebrated Chelsea's win things turned "rowdy and nasty", resulting in some damage both inside and outside the pub.

It is believed the victims were father and son and the stabbing took place after trouble started in the pub.

The London Evening Standard on the other hand provides information that the BBC just happened to omit.

His father Bernard, 56, was stabbed four times when he used himself as a human shield. One of the wounds punctured his liver. It is believed the attack came after a row in a nearby shop which did not involve Luke.

His best friend, Ricci Whiteside, 25, said: “A group of black guys arrived at the door of the pub with bats and knives and they were looking for someone. People were throwing chairs at the door to stop them coming in. They got Luke and dragged him outside. They were pulling him up the road. His dad was running after them. But by the time he got to Luke he was already on the floor. Bernie threw himself on top of Luke. He was trying to protect him, but it was too late.”

Luke’s aunt Tess Fitzpatrick said: “The men who came for Luke were like a pack of wolves. My brother ran after them. He covered him with his body, but they had stabbed Luke all over.”

Why did the BBC omit the identity of the attackers and the fact that they stormed the pub en masse armed with weapons?

I doubt it's journalistic incompetence. More likely leftist bias to avoid race unless it fits the narrative of racist whites and non-white victims?

[roodootoo]

(Original post by Chi019)
I suspect if the father and son were black and the gang were white, the BBC reporting may have been different.

There was no mention of the ethnicity of those arrested or what form the violence took. All three reports from Sunday, Monday and Tuesday were tailored in such a way as to make this killing look like a ‘typical’ consequence of the innate violence associated with a certain type of English football fan:



The London Evening Standard on the other hand provides information that the BBC just happened to omit.



Why did the BBC omit the identity of the attackers and the fact that they stormed the pub en masse armed with weapons?

I doubt it's journalistic incompetence. More likely leftist bias to avoid race unless it fits the narrative of racist whites and non-white victims?

How do you know he was stabbed because he was white???
The murder of Christopher Laurence, for example, was branded racist because they shouted racist comments at him before they assaulted and murdered him.

[Stiff Little Fingers]

Unless it can be shown it was definitely murder based on the race of the victim, reporting the race of the parties involved is unnecessary and really only serves to stir up trouble.

[silverbolt]

(Original post by Alofleicester)
Unless it can be shown it was definitely murder based on the race of the victim, reporting the race of the parties involved is unnecessary and really only serves to stir up trouble.

agreed but why the double standards which you can admit tend to be biased in favour of non whites. Especially by the BBC. Things like the fail of course do the opposite

The fact of the way the attack took place should have been reported and whislt im loathe to agree with the OP - it does seem like certain parts have deliberately been ommited to make it less.......severe.

Both Mondays and Tuesdays bbc articles are written in such a way as to make it appear football related. Whislt the standards is significantly different and shows that whilst it might not be related to race in some way, it is not related to football

[Chi019]

(Original post by Alofleicester)
Unless it can be shown it was definitely murder based on the race of the victim, reporting the race of the parties involved is unnecessary and really only serves to stir up trouble.

Yes, it's the (perceived) double standard that I object to. There is also the failure to provide information or inform the public. The slant is obviously to omit information that may reduce support for diversity or certain immigration. That may be the case, but the media should be open not omitting information in accordance with certain political objectives.

[Stiff Little Fingers]

(Original post by silverbolt)
agreed but why the double standards which you can admit tend to be biased in favour of non whites. Especially by the BBC. Things like the fail of course do the opposite

The fact of the way the attack took place should have been reported and whislt im loathe to agree with the OP - it does seem like certain parts have deliberately been ommited to make it less.......severe.

Both Mondays and Tuesdays bbc articles are written in such a way as to make it appear football related. Whislt the standards is significantly different and shows that whilst it might not be related to race in some way, it is not related to football

I've no idea, although I wouldn't say the BBC was one of the worst for that sort of bias - not next to the likes of the Guardian.

The BBC reporting seemingly trying to make it look football based is saddening, it just aims to make football fans look like the thugs that permeated the sports fan base in the 70's & 80's, but I'd still think they were right to leave out the races involved for the time being.

[x_Natalie_x]

I think the people who are saying that they were right to leave race out are missing the point. The OP makes the - absolutely true - point that if the races were the other way around, they would definitely have been mentioned in the BBC article, and the police would probably be investigating this as a hate crime. The problem here is the obvious double standard. If you are going to report white-on-black violence as is, you need to do the same for black-on-white.

[Brown Eyed Gatsby]

What a disgusting attack. It sickens me how people believe it's alright to take someone's life. Damn cowards, the race doesn't matter they should be locked away for a long, long time

[Steezy]

Poor guy - horrific way to go... Dragged out and stabbed in front of your friends and family who can't do anything to help. The stuff nightmares are made of.

[TheHansa]

The BBC screens out lots of stuff, not just anti-white crime, the purpose is to maintain social order not create a narrative of whites being evil and everyone else the victim.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by TheHansa)
The BBC screens out lots of stuff, not just anti-white crime, the purpose is to maintain social order not create a narrative of whites being evil and everyone else the victim.

This takes precedent over truth?

[A Mysterious Lord]

(Original post by Alofleicester)
Unless it can be shown it was definitely murder based on the race of the victim, reporting the race of the parties involved is unnecessary and really only serves to stir up trouble.

Yet they don't hesitate to if the victims aren't white, even if it isn't race related.

[TheHansa]

(Original post by Bonged.)
This takes precedent over truth?

No of course not, but I was saying that this isn't anti-white bias because other crime is not covered just the governments voice trying its best to stop a total meltdown. During the riots when three Asians were killed in a racist attack there was a scramble to the keep the lid on things and stop race riots.

[Friar Chris]

(Original post by Alofleicester)
Unless it can be shown it was definitely murder based on the race of the victim, reporting the race of the parties involved is unnecessary and really only serves to stir up trouble.

I frequently notice the race of people involved in crimes reported on BBC news articles when the crime is not otherwise linked to race in the article... It seems very peculiar it was omitted from this case.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by TheHansa)
No of course not, but I was saying that this isn't anti-white bias because other crime is not covered just the governments voice trying its best to stop a total meltdown. During the riots when three Asians were killed in a racist attack there was a scramble to the keep the lid on things and stop race riots.

I don't think it's anti-white bias specifically. I don't believe that the privately educated, white, middle class men that run the BBC hate white people, but they are utterly terrified of being accused of any -ism or -phobia and censor their output accordingly. This results in the kind of reporting the OP has exposed, where the victims are portrayed as violent football thugs, because being english working class affords them no special victimhood status (indeed as a member of the racial majority they are in fact part of the system that oppresses their attackers, supposedly).

[bishbash72]

'Things turned rowdy', Jesus Christ, that's some impressive whitewashing right there.

[Birdman1234567]

I don't think it's fair to say that this incident was an anti-white murder, it seems to me the gang members who happen to be black were just looking for a particular person, he happened to be white. Just because it's a white guy that is stabbed in this incident doesn't necessarily mean that it's racist, there are more black on black stabbings tbh. Needless to say these goons should be locked up. But yeah the Media do seem to engage in this double standard, but what do you think she be done about it? I don't think it's any good saying well "if they were black...if she was black....if he was black etc. It's all to easy to use this as an excuse to have a rant - it actually makes me uncomfortable every time people use that broken record (lol I don't remember getting any preferential treatment, and we all get the same prison sentence don't we ). Ultimately I agree that something needs to be done to combat this perceived Double standard I also agree that the media should not omitting information in accordance with certain political objectives.

[bishbash72]

(Original post by Birdman1234567)
I don't think it's fair to say that this incident was an anti-white murder, it seems to me the gang members who happen to be black were just looking for a particular person, he happened to be white. Just because it's a white guy that is stabbed in this incident doesn't necessarily mean that it's racist, there are more black on black stabbings tbh. Needless to say these goons should be locked up. But yeah the Media do seem to engage in this double standard, but what do you think she be done about it? I don't think it's any good saying well "if they were black...if she was black....if he was black etc. It's all to easy to use this as an excuse to have a rant - it actually makes me uncomfortable every time people use that broken record (lol I don't remember getting any preferential treatment, and we all get the same prison sentence don't we ). Ultimately I agree that something needs to be done to combat this perceived Double standard I also agree that the media should not omitting information in accordance with certain political objectives.

It's more the implication, in the BBC story, that this is just typical working class football violence, rather than a directed attack on an individual by a (black) gang. I mean; 'it got a bit rowdy' is not comparable to 'four men came in with knives and bats, dragged him outside and murdered him and his father' which is what actually happened.

[Annoying-Mouse]

Can you give multiple recent examples of the BBC identifying the race of a white person when it's not shown that it was a race-motivated crime?

It's not an anti-white race murder. That's bull**** and hyperbolic considering we have no evidence as of now suggesting this.

[alexmagpie]

Can we not just respect the victims and let them rest in peace, rather than warping things to fit whichever political agenda? I can't see any evidence suggesting it was a racially motivated killing.