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    FPAS and publications
    Does anyone know whether publications need to have been published within a certain time (ie recently) in order to be awarded points on the FPAS application? It's just I've got a couple from my undergrad degree and am starting a 5 year medicine course in September, so just wondering!

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    When I did it there was not a time limit on it, so I think they probably would count.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    When I did it there was not a time limit on it, so I think they probably would count.
    Cheers! Actually I managed to find a document outlining the new points system (which will undoubtedly have changed by the time I graduate!) and it didn't mention anything about a time limit, so that's good.

    Also I'm probably being really stupid here but what does it mean when it says "intercalated degree that did not extend the degree programme"? Surely an intercalated degree DOES extend the degree programme? Presumably I'd just get the points for a normal honours degree... which by the looks of it, earns 1 more point than an intercalated degree?
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    (Original post by feverdream)
    Cheers! Actually I managed to find a document outlining the new points system (which will undoubtedly have changed by the time I graduate!) and it didn't mention anything about a time limit, so that's good.

    Also I'm probably being really stupid here but what does it mean when it says "intercalated degree that did not extend the degree programme"? Surely an intercalated degree DOES extend the degree programme? Presumably I'd just get the points for a normal honours degree... which by the looks of it, earns 1 more point than an intercalated degree?
    Nottingham incorporate a BMedSci into their 5 year course, thereby not extending the degree programme.
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    (Original post by Kinkerz)
    Nottingham incorporate a BMedSci into their 5 year course, thereby not extending the degree programme.
    Yeah, I think you get a BMedSci with Southampton as well within the 5 years
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    (Original post by Kinkerz)
    Nottingham incorporate a BMedSci into their 5 year course, thereby not extending the degree programme.
    Aah ok! I get it. So intercalaters will get the same number of points as me? Having spent 4 years doing this degree it does leave me feeling rather irritated...
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    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    Yeah, I think you get a BMedSci with Southampton as well within the 5 years
    So they do. Didn't know that!

    (Original post by feverdream)
    Aah ok! I get it. So intercalaters will get the same number of points as me? Having spent 4 years doing this degree it does leave me feeling rather irritated...
    Ah you'll have gained skills and experience during those 4 years that may well make you a more able medical student.
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    (Original post by Kinkerz)
    So they do. Didn't know that!


    Ah you'll have gained skills and experience during those 4 years that may well make you a more able medical student.
    Quick question, if you intercalate in a masters degree, do you have to intercalate with a bachelors as well (i.e. would you spend 2 years intercalating instead of 1?)

    Cheers! :cheers:
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    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    Quick question, if you intercalate in a masters degree, do you have to intercalate with a bachelors as well (i.e. would you spend 2 years intercalating instead of 1?)

    Cheers! :cheers:
    No, but usually if you want to intercalate with a masters level qualification, you have to do it after your fourth year (there may be exceptions).
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    (Original post by Kinkerz)
    No, but usually if you want to intercalate with a masters level qualification, you have to do it after your fourth year (there may be exceptions).
    Yeah, I noticed the fourth year thing while looking through some of the med school websites

    Thanks
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    (Original post by feverdream)
    Aah ok! I get it. So intercalaters will get the same number of points as me? Having spent 4 years doing this degree it does leave me feeling rather irritated...
    Yes, they will. I suspect that FPAS don't really feel that simply being a grad student should give you an advantage.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Yes, they will. I suspect that FPAS don't really feel that simply being a grad student should give you an advantage.
    No, and I suppose that's fair enough. But I am a psychology student and I see intercalating medics coming into our final year with barely any experience of psychology, and it makes me wonder... could I have done this in a year?
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    (Original post by feverdream)
    No, and I suppose that's fair enough. But I am a psychology student and I see intercalating medics coming into our final year with barely any experience of psychology, and it makes me wonder... could I have done this in a year?
    Oh, I'm not saying they could have, necessarily. The question is whether the FPAS system should give a graduate student an advantage over someone who got into medicine first time around. If they started doing things like that then it would make applications decisions for 6th formers more complicated, and would cause a lot of resentment amongst "standard" course students.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Oh, I'm not saying they could have, necessarily. The question is whether the FPAS system should give a graduate student an advantage over someone who got into medicine first time around. If they started doing things like that then it would make applications decisions for 6th formers more complicated, and would cause a lot of resentment amongst "standard" course students.
    Yeah I totally agree it would be a big issue and not one that FPAS would want to get caught up in! I suppose I just wonder whether an intercalated degree is really "worth" the same as a full length degree. For biological science subjects I think it probably is, because they've learnt relevant "prerequisite" material in their first few years of medical school (although the question of "effort required" still remains, i.e. 1 vs 3 years), but for something like psychology it does slightly give the air of "waltzing in and claiming in a year what we worked for 3/4 years to get"...

    Personal gripe though to be honest! And I'm glad of the experiences I've gained over the last 4 years so wouldn't change it
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    (Original post by feverdream)
    No, and I suppose that's fair enough. But I am a psychology student and I see intercalating medics coming into our final year with barely any experience of psychology, and it makes me wonder... could I have done this in a year?
    Probably.
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    Probably.
    Well exactly! :rolleyes:
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