[xXxiKillxXx]

(Original post by badcheesecrispy)
theres probably many conservative supporters who also have this opinion, as well as many normal people who don't belong to any group. Thats like saying the organisation must be racist if a few members are, in that case what does that say about Islam and terrorists?

Very sweeping generalisation to make.

I didn't make any generalisation. I simply said many EDL members are not only islamophobic; I never said all EDL members. Yes some Muslims are terrorists, I am not denying this. But you cannot also deny many EDL members oppose non-White people in Britain.

[tc92]

(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
Have you ever visited Stormfront? There are several members on there who are part of the EDL even though these members are against all non-Whites (not just Muslims). Officially, the EDL might be only anti-Islam, but in reality, there are many members who would love to see the 'foreigners' out

I tend not to frequent white supremacist websites. For all there may be such members, I'm sure there are many members who hate these people for their views, as evidenced, for instance, in Whitehall a couple of years back when the EDL fought with Combat 18 over the EDL's tolerance of Jews.

Also, anyone who just opposes 'foreigners' would in turn be against white Americans, Canadians, Australians, South Africans etc. and thus contradictory to white supremacism.

[xXxiKillxXx]

(Original post by tc92)
I tend not to frequent white supremacist websites. For all there may be such members, I'm sure there are many members who hate these people for their views, as evidenced, for instance, in Whitehall a couple of years back when the EDL fought with Combat 18 over the EDL's tolerance of Jews.

Also, anyone who just opposes 'foreigners' would in turn be against white Americans, Canadians, Australians, South Africans etc. and thus contradictory to white supremacism.

Erm, so are you saying that White Nationalists do not oppose ''foreigners'' (any non-White Brits)?

[tc92]

(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
Erm, so are you saying that White Nationalists do not oppose ''foreigners'' (any non-White Brits)?

White supremacists who believe in the superiority of white people, would surely not distinguish greatly between a white Brit, a white American, a white Australian etc. Anyone who opposes all foreigners, could oppose these people as well, rather than seeing them as equally superior to other races, whilst wholeheartedly supporting black and Asian Brits.

[badcheesecrispy]

(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
I didn't make any generalisation. I simply said many EDL members are not only islamophobic; I never said all EDL members. Yes some Muslims are terrorists, I am not denying this. But you cannot also deny many EDL members oppose non-White people in Britain.

Yes they do and one got laid out by the head of EDL at one of their protests. I'm not a supporter of theres at all just stating that the organisation is not racist and it will have some bad eggs but so will most large movements.

[ALazyThracian]

Take it you have never seen the movie 'Romper Stomper'?

This isn't new there are white supremacists in everyone majorly white populated country. As people have also stated this is nothing to do with the english defense league (EDL)

[LeeC]

(Original post by cl_steele)
You can argue that about damn near every country in the world though; Britain, America, Australia, New zealand, SA etc. etc. each one is populated by migrants of one form or another

So? Doesn't make the point invalid.

[democracyforum]

(Original post by Seasick Steve)
Talking chipmunks?

Bears with shotguns ?

[cl_steele]

(Original post by LeeC)
So? Doesn't make the point invalid.

i never said it was, i was merely point out that it isnt just people from NZ who cant gripe about immigrants as every country is founded on them...

[LeeC]

(Original post by cl_steele)
i never said it was, i was merely point out that it isnt just people from NZ who cant gripe about immigrants as every country is founded on them...

Your tone and the suggested otherwise..but ok.

[DanRBlake]

(Original post by cl_steele)
i never said it was, i was merely point out that it isnt just people from NZ who cant gripe about immigrants as every country is founded on them...

Not this rubbish again! This is a complete nonsense; a lie peddled by the left to silence anyone unhappy with our total transformation as a society in the last decade or so beacuse "we're all immigrants anyway".

I'm surprised anyone is still wheeling out this nonsense as it's now seen as laughable by most leading geneticists/historians.

[cl_steele]

(Original post by DanRBlake)
Not this rubbish again! This is a complete nonsense; a lie peddled by the left to silence anyone unhappy with our total transformation as a society in the last decade or so beacuse "we're all immigrants anyway".

I'm surprised anyone is still wheeling out this nonsense as it's now seen as laughable by most leading geneticists/historians.

What has this got to do with 'the left' ? do you even know what the left is?

this post is such tosh it beggars belief...

[The Marshall]

(Original post by x_Natalie_x)
White New Zealanders have no right to complain about immigration, it is their ancestors who are the immigrants. Their ancestors were the invaders.

And English people have no right to complain about immigration either. You once ruled an empire.