OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012
Yep I'm sitting it. I've only done odd questions from the textbook practice exams, but I've done all of the OCR past papers from 2006 onwards and they've all been ok bar a few.
I'm ok on most topics apart from Chapter 2 - combining different distributions, mainly the bit where it's not clear whether it's a multiple of a random variable or a different observation...
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. So confusing! I think it's usually a different observation unless blatantly otherwise - like when they ask Var(X-4Y) for example.
Pretty well, this is my third time sitting this so hopefully I can ace it this time. I'm still a bit iffy on writing the null and alternate hypothesis (for z and t-tests) in terms of population parameters. I like to write them in words but I think this loses a mark.
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to. Often it's just Var(X-Y) anyway so it doesn't matter..(Original post by Ree69)
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. So confusing! I think it's usually a different observation unless blatantly otherwise - like when they ask Var(X-4Y) for example.
Pretty well, this is my third time sitting this so hopefully I can ace it this time. I'm still a bit iffy on writing the null and alternate hypothesis (for z and t-tests) in terms of population parameters. I like to write them in words but I think this loses a mark.
What's your best score so far? And isn't it usually just μx=μy for Ho and the opposite for H1, depending on whether or not it's a two tail or a one tail test? Except testing for the proportion where it would be px=py.
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/201283. Need 88+ for the A*.(Original post by CJAW)
That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to. Often it's just Var(X-Y) anyway so it doesn't matter..
What's your best score so far? And isn't it usually just μx=μy for Ho and the opposite for H1, depending on whether or not it's a two tail or a one tail test? Except testing for the proportion where it would be px=py.
Just make sure you define what Px and Py are, the markscheme often uses p1=p2 instead.
Yeah, but sometimes they'd ask you to define the notation in terms of its parameters. And sometimes (a lot of the time, actually) it's unnecessary (as in, there's no mention of it in the mark scheme).
I think I just need to get in to the habit of defining everything I write for the null and alternate hypothesis. -
Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Ah not far off then!(Original post by Ree69)
83. Need 88+ for the A*.
Yeah, but sometimes they'd ask you to define the notation in terms of its parameters. And sometimes (a lot of the time, actually) it's unnecessary (as in, there's no mention of it in the mark scheme).
I think I just need to get in to the habit of defining everything I write for the null and alternate hypothesis.
I'm still a bit unhappy with some of the 'assumptions.'
Like when they ask, what assumptions must you make in using this test or similar. I've found that there seem to be an extra one or two in the mark scheme that I wouldn't of/hadn't thought of, which have no mention in the textbook!
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about! If I don't get the A*, I'll think back to this very conversation.(Original post by CJAW)
Ah not far off then!
I'm still a bit unhappy with some of the 'assumptions.'
Like when they ask, what assumptions must you make in using this test or similar. I've found that there seem to be an extra one or two in the mark scheme that I wouldn't of/hadn't thought of, which have no mention in the textbook!
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012
hey so has anyone done jan 2011?
If so could someone put working up for q6i. I get exactly the same as the ms up until 1-F(1/y) then i have no idea where the 1- part goes.
Thanks
Here is the link as well http://pdf.ocr.org.uk/download/pp_11...ce_473401.pdf? -
Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Oh, I had a question but I figured it out.(Original post by CJAW)
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Not too bad, except for those sophisticated PDFs/CDFs and the extremely vague linear combination questions(Original post by Sgt.Incontro)
Bump to the top. The exam is yomorrow , how is everyone going?
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Hey I just did Jan11 and for 8iic I got [0.0336, 0.3428] but the mark scheme says the answer is [0.0336, 0.3423].(Original post by NightBear)
Oh, I had a question but I figured it out.
Did you get something similar?Last edited by Ree69; 30-05-2012 at 17:57. -
Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Wasn't directed to me I know but no, I got their answer.(Original post by Ree69)
Hey I just did Jan11 and for 8iic I got [0.0334, 0.3428] but the mark scheme says the answer is [0.0336, 0.4323].
Did you get something similar?
My working: [ (x̄ 1 - x̄ 2) +/-tsp *Root((1/22) + (1/20))]
t=2.704, s^2p=0.0342
Did you forget to square root the second s^2p? - that's the mistake I often make.
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Can't recall what I got, but I remember not getting what the mark scheme had. I'm redoing that Q atm(Original post by Ree69)
Hey I just did Jan11 and for 8iic I got [0.0334, 0.3428] but the mark scheme says the answer is [0.0336, 0.4323].
Did you get something similar?
No, got what the mark scheme has.
Did you use the correct value for t? That's where I went wrong at first, I think, but the answer should be way off in that case
Might be just rounding error?Last edited by NightBear; 30-05-2012 at 17:46. -
Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012(Original post by CJAW)
Wasn't directed to me I know but no, I got their answer.
My working: [ (x̄ 1 - x̄ 2) +/-tsp *Root((1/22) + (1/20))]
t=2.704, s^2p=0.0342
Did you forget to square root the second s^2p? - that's the mistake I often make.
I wouldn't worry about .the 0.0334 (rounding error?), they accept that in the markscheme anyway.No, I'm about 90% confident ((Original post by NightBear)
Can't recall what I got, but I remember not getting what the mark scheme had. I'm redoing that Q atm
No, got what the mark scheme has.
Did you use the correct value for t? That's where I went wrong at first, I think, but the answer should be way off in that case
Might be just rounding error?
) that I've done tihs correctly.
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012I left out the upper limit(Original post by Ree69)
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just checked, you're right. I got 0.342775... which should round up to 0.3428
I double checked with their values and got the same answer.
OCR
even though that answer will be accepted.
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Will it? In the mark scheme it says explicity (0.033-0.036, 0.0342-0.0346).(Original post by NightBear)
I left out the upper limit
just checked, you're right. I got 0.342775... which should round up to 0.3428
I double checked with their values and got the same answer.
OCR
even though that answer will be accepted.
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Re: OCR (not MEI) S3 - 31/05/2012Yeah, our answer is within 0.0342-0.0346, no?(Original post by Ree69)
Will it? In the mark scheme it says explicity (0.033-0.036, 0.0342-0.0346).
) that I've done tihs correctly.
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