Naturally thin: a myth?
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Re: Naturally thin: a myth?well i think they lose fat but gain muscles (which weighs more) so it looks like they aren't making progress when they actually are(Original post by TheGoat)
No problem
And possibly. What about people who say they diet and exercise but don't lose weight? Do you think that's down to them thinking they're doing better than they are too, like thin people?
and these things tend not to have a noticeable effect straight away so maybe they just need more time
or some people might just be really unlucky with their bodies?>??? -
Re: Naturally thin: a myth?People have a 'Basal Metabolic Rate', we constantly burn energy for (resting) processes such as breathing, maintaining homeostasis (particularly core temperature and ionic balance), anti-gravity muscles, involuntary movement etc. This basal rate is dertermined by genetic elements, your lean body mass and environmental conditions and can vary a lot from person to person. Some people are more efficient at storing energy than others, they have a low metabolism and vice versa.(Original post by TheGoat)
I don't know if you've looked into it much but may I ask that you explain the "burn energy at a much faster rate even when resting" part? That's the part that makes me think It's a load of lies
I hope that explains it a bit
Last edited by Mr. Tizzy XII; 26-05-2012 at 10:52. -
Re: Naturally thin: a myth?You're saying I have muscles that make me float? Well I never...(Original post by Mr. Tizzy XII)
People have a 'Basal Metabolic Rate', we constantly burn energy for (resting) processes such as breathing, maintaing homeostasis (particularly core temperature and ionic balance), anti-gravity muscles, involuntary movement etc. This basal rate is dertermined by genetic elements, your lean body mass and environmental conditions and can vary a lot from person to person. Some people are more efficient at storing energy than others, they have a low metabolism and vice versa.
I hope that explains it a bit
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Re: Naturally thin: a myth?I found and interesting and healthy way to add around 1000 calories to your diet if you're struggling. Was on bb.com reading an article on dirty bulking (which the author was against) and he suggested olive oil 'shooters'. Basically 2-3 times a day fill a shot glass full of olive oil and down it. Has absolute minimal saturated fat and full of good fats. Seems like a good idea, cause I'm having problems hitting the right amount of calories.(Original post by Jono404)
Quite simple, chicken is a lean meat that isn't that calorific, probably didn't eat that much rice and 3 cans of coke is just over 400 cals. It's not a question of what you're eating, you are just probably eating under your daily requirement without realising. I'm not saying it's unhealthy or that it's not possible to be naturally thin, just that it's down to appetite rather than metabolism. For me personally I just don't particularly enjoy eating or food, but for the sake of the gym I have to try and top 3000 cals a day, though sometimes I find it hard to get over 2500, which is the recommended amount for a man. -
Re: Naturally thin: a myth?Hmm... But then for people who eat a lot and don't do any exercise it's highly likely that they eat more than they burn?(Original post by heyAmy)
Aha, to lose weight you have to burn off more than you consume (GCSE PE coming in handy there). So, yes. They would either be not exercising enough or still eating too much. Maybe they're eating calories they don't realize, like if you buy shop-bought sandwiches which seem fairly healthy but are full of fat.
I can't really say too much about it because I don't really know too much detail about putting on weight
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Re: Naturally thin: a myth?They prevent flexation due to gravity and maintain your balance!(Original post by Aisha~~)
You're saying I have muscles that make me float? Well I never...
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Re: Naturally thin: a myth?It's not a myth. I'm one and so are my Mum and sister. We eat loads but don't put on with only moderate exercise.(Original post by heyAmy)
So you hear of these people who 'eat loads' and 'do no exercise' but claim that their slim physique is natural and they've got good genes.
Personally, I have no idea how this could be possible.
What do you think? Can this be possible? Is there such thing as 'naturally skinny'? -
Re: Naturally thin: a myth?Does that work? I've heard of people using flaxseed oil before. I get a lot of mine from shakes with oats, whey protein and milk, around 800cals a shake. Sometimes though if I'm tired I'll fall asleep before my last meal or shake which is the difference between a calorie surplus and and defecit sometimes.(Original post by EonBlueApocalypse)
I found and interesting and healthy way to add around 1000 calories to your diet if you're struggling. Was on bb.com reading an article on dirty bulking (which the author was against) and he suggested olive oil 'shooters'. Basically 2-3 times a day fill a shot glass full of olive oil and down it. Has absolute minimal saturated fat and full of good fats. Seems like a good idea, cause I'm having problems hitting the right amount of calories. -
Re: Naturally thin: a myth?Haha okay that makes sense(Original post by poyyo)
well i think they lose fat but gain muscles (which weighs more) so it looks like they aren't making progress when they actually are
and these things tend not to have a noticeable effect straight away so maybe they just need more time
or some people might just be really unlucky with their bodies?>???
I didn't think about it like that before.
But what is the increase in metabolic rate for? How can you need so much homeostasis that your body is burning off cals during rest faster than someone who does exercise? That's what I don't understand about the whole "fast metabolism" thing. It's easy to say that you have a fast metabolism but what about explaining what processes in your body are causing it to be so high?(Original post by Mr. Tizzy XII)
People have a 'Basal Metabolic Rate', we constantly burn energy for (resting) processes such as breathing, maintaing homeostasis (particularly core temperature and ionic balance), anti-gravity muscles, involuntary movement etc. This basal rate is dertermined by genetic elements, your lean body mass and environmental conditions and can vary a lot from person to person. Some people are more efficient at storing energy than others, they have a low metabolism and vice versa.
I hope that explains it a bit
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Re: Naturally thin: a myth?me...(Original post by heyAmy)
Can you elaborate? Do you know of an example? -
Re: Naturally thin: a myth?Yes, I am.(Original post by heyAmy)
So you hear of these people who 'eat loads' and 'do no exercise' but claim that their slim physique is natural and they've got good genes.
Personally, I have no idea how this could be possible.
What do you think? Can this be possible? Is there such thing as 'naturally skinny'? -
Re: Naturally thin: a myth?Sorry, I think you misunderstood, people won't burn more energy resting than those who exercise. I'm just saying that certain people -when in the same state as another- (resting or exercising for example) will naturally burn more energy because they are less efficient at storing the energy.(Original post by TheGoat)
Haha okay that makes sense
I didn't think about it like that before.
But what is the increase in metabolic rate for? How can you need so much homeostasis that your body is burning off cals during rest faster than someone who does exercise? That's what I don't understand about the whole "fast metabolism" thing. It's easy to say that you have a fast metabolism but what about explaining what processes in your body are causing it to be so high?
I'm not saying that this will account for everything, calorie intake and amount of exercise will have more effect than your BMR, but it can still have a fair effect (Such as in the study that showed two similar people with ~80% difference in energy burning rate at rest (and yes, I know this is not common, but it's possible)). -
Re: Naturally thin: a myth?
You may have high motabolism now because you are at a relativly young age and so you are skinnier. However...as you grow up-say mid 30s- and you still eat as much or same style/diet of food as when you were young-your body will not be able to cope and so you easily gain fat.
This high metabolism may be higher in your youth compared to your peers But ultimately the differences will even out eventually as you grow older.
I say take advantage of it now!
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Re: Naturally thin: a myth?
No, it's not a myth. I'm very skinny despite eating a fair amount with minimal exercise, and I actually hate it. I personally wouldn't go around bragging, I just want to be a 'normal weight'. In fact, I went to a doctor about it, because it really worried me, they did all kinds of tests and diet assessments, and I am considered 100% healthy. They said that weight was normally distributed, so there is a set healthy weight for the majority of the population, but there are some people who stay naturally skinny because it's healthy for them. That's my evidence :P
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Re: Naturally thin: a myth?
NOT a myth, in my opinion.
I don't understand why, but I stay thin without any conscious effort. My friends are always complimenting my figure and asking how I do it, but I don't do anything. My weight just seems to stabilise itself. I am always between 61-63kg (I am 5'10").
I have to really try ie. overeat and stuff myself every day for a few weeks to put on any weight. Even if I do, like over Christmas for example, the weight just comes off naturally without me having to worry about it.
Normally I eat three meals a day, and I don't exercise much but I do walk and ride my bike a lot. I hardly ever snack between meals unless I'm stressed because of exams or something.
I have always been this way. It could be genes - all my direct family aren't as lucky, but there are others like me in my extended family. My mum and my sister are always worrying about their weight and are gym-obsessed, but not me. I have never been on a diet in my life.
