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  1. cool pilot dude's Avatar
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    Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    Hey guys,

    I just wanted to ask what happens if you fail or get a low grade on one paper; but get a high grade on another?

    e.g. what if you got an E on one Psychology As paper, but got a d,c or B on the second part? What would your overall grade be approximatly? or what if someone got a U on one paper and a D,C or B on the other?
    Last edited by cool pilot dude; 26-05-2012 at 17:16.
  2. Just Josh's Avatar
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    4 Units:

    A - 320
    B - 280
    C - 240
    D - 200
    E - 160

    6 Units:

    A - 480
    B - 420
    C - 360
    D - 300
    E - 240

    Add up all your UMS marks from each exam and whatever it totals is what you get.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    well a lot of the time grades are done by saying that there were for example 6 modules- all out of 100, so an A might be 550 marks out of 600, so averaging them basically.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    (Original post by cool pilot dude)
    Hey guys,

    I just wanted to ask what happens if you fail or get a low grade on one paper; but get a high grade on another?

    e.g. what if you got an E on one Psychology As paper, but got a d,c or B on the second part? What would your overall grade be approximatly? or what if someone got a U on one paper and a D,C or B on the other?
    If they're equally weighted, obviously the mid point of the two grades. For example, an E worth 50% and an A worth 50% would give you a C. But if you got an E worth 20% and an A worth 80& you'd get a B most likely.
  5. cool pilot dude's Avatar
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    (Original post by Just Josh)
    4 Units:

    A - 320
    B - 280
    C - 240
    D - 200
    E - 160

    6 Units:

    A - 480
    B - 420
    C - 360
    D - 300
    E - 240

    Add up all your UMS marks from each exam and whatever it totals is what you get.

    (Original post by beaver_tron)
    well a lot of the time grades are done by saying that there were for example 6 modules- all out of 100, so an A might be 550 marks out of 600, so averaging them basically.

    (Original post by AGrumpyMole)
    If they're equally weighted, obviously the mid point of the two grades. For example, an E worth 50% and an A worth 50% would give you a C. But if you got an E worth 20% and an A worth 80& you'd get a B most likely.
    Sorry, but this is quite confusing....

    is it possible if you can use a subject as an example and the marks? like say if a psychology each psychology paper was worth 72 marks but on one paper you got 30 and the other say 50. What would the overall grade be?
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    (Original post by cool pilot dude)
    Sorry, but this is quite confusing....

    is it possible if you can use a subject as an example and the marks? like say if a psychology each psychology paper was worth 72 marks but on one paper you got 30 and the other say 50. What would the overall grade be?
    Well, you'd get 80/144 marks.
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    (Original post by cool pilot dude)
    Sorry, but this is quite confusing....

    is it possible if you can use a subject as an example and the marks? like say if a psychology each psychology paper was worth 72 marks but on one paper you got 30 and the other say 50. What would the overall grade be?
    4 unit A levels, such as Psychology, are out of 400: 200 for the AS and 200 for the A2. For the AS you need:
    160/200 for an A
    140-159 for a B
    120-139 for a C
    100-119 for a D
    80-99 for an E.

    Depending on the exam board, I think the max mark split between the 2 Psychology papers is either 80 and 120 or 100 and 100. However, it doesn't matter how your marks are split between the 2 papers, you just add the 2 marks together and check against the list above - that's the grade you get.

    (Of the earlier replies, I'd ignore Beavertron's as he hasn't really got the hang of the rules).
    Last edited by Data; 26-05-2012 at 19:18.
  8. cool pilot dude's Avatar
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    (Original post by AGrumpyMole)
    Well, you'd get 80/144 marks.

    (Original post by Data)
    4 unit A levels, such as Psychology, are out of 400: 200 for the AS and 200 for the A2. For the AS you need:
    160/200 for an A
    140-159 for a B
    120-139 for a C
    100-119 for a D
    80-99 for an E.

    Depending on the exam board, I think the max mark split between the 2 Psychology papers is either 80 and 120 or 100 and 100. However, it doesn't matter how your marks are split between the 2 papers, you just add the 2 marks together and check against the list above - that's the grade you get.

    (Of the earlier replies, I'd ignore Beavertron's as he hasn't really got the hang of the rules).
    Thanks Data for clarifying it I am doing AQA As psychology (A)

    @ Grumpy, Im guessing that would be an E if you look at Data's post of marks.

    Anyways, Ive got 2 more AS exams to do. One is the second part or psychology and the secnd part of law. Better start revsiing for those papers as I need a D to get on to A2! and even if I get a D I am gonna re-take but I just need to get at least a D to get onto A2.

    should you need to add any more information, please do so.

    Thnaks guys!
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    Hey guys to get an A* overall in Psychology is it true that we need to have an A overall (320 and above if i'm correct) and 89% or 90% average in the A2 units. Im slightly confused with the 89/90% bit - how much marks would that be.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    I'll use my french marks from last year as an example:
    Unit 1: A
    Unit 2: C
    AS overall grade: B

    Unit 3: C
    Unit 4: E
    A2 overall grade: D

    French A-Level grade = C
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    To get an A* in it you will need at least 180 UMS marks in A2 units plus the first 2 at as to meet the requirements.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    (Original post by mkigz77)
    Hey guys to get an A* overall in Psychology is it true that we need to have an A overall (320 and above if i'm correct) and 89% or 90% average in the A2 units. Im slightly confused with the 89/90% bit - how much marks would that be.
    Yes, an A (at least 320/400 overall) and at least 180/200 (90%) in the A2 units. It doesn't matter how those 180 (or more) marks are split between the 2 units.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    (Original post by cool pilot dude)
    Sorry, but this is quite confusing....

    is it possible if you can use a subject as an example and the marks? like say if a psychology each psychology paper was worth 72 marks but on one paper you got 30 and the other say 50. What would the overall grade be?
    yeah so its out of 144 total

    you got - 80 out of 144

    then work out the percentage - which i am crap at but ill go ahead -

    80/144 = 5/9 x100 = 500/9 = 56 % roughly

    so if an A =80, B= 70 C=60 D=50 then thats a mid D.
    correct me if im wrong of course, as my calcualtions for percentage can be a bit crap.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    I know someone who got ACDE in four different modules. All 4 combined, he had a C overall.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    if you are like one grade off your uni place, do some unis still offer you a place or do you have to like ring them up and?
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    (Original post by Data)
    Yes, an A (at least 320/400 overall) and at least 180/200 (90%) in the A2 units. It doesn't matter how those 180 (or more) marks are split between the 2 units.
    ok so how many ums marks would 90% be?
    Last edited by mkigz77; 27-05-2012 at 08:08.
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    (Original post by mkigz77)
    ok so how many ums marks would 90% be?
    It depends on the mark number of UMS marks on the unit. 4 unit A levels are out of 400, 6 unit A levels are out of 600, but the individual units can de of different sizes, e.g. Maths always has all units of equal size with a max UMS of 100, so 90% is 90UMS, but OCR Biology has AS papers that are out of 90, 150 and 60 so for those 90% would be 81, 135 and 54 respectively. You need to find out the max mark of the unit(s) you are interested in, Your teacher could tell you.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    ok i will try asking my teacher. For psychology the ums marks are the same across all for units. Each paper is 72 marks so would i convert that via a percentage by working out 90 out of 100 then times by 72 to find out how much an average of 90% is?
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    (Original post by mkigz77)
    ok i will try asking my teacher. For psychology the ums marks are the same across all for units. Each paper is 72 marks so would i convert that via a percentage by working out 90 out of 100 then times by 72 to find out how much an average of 90% is?
    Sorry, it is more complicated than that. The raw mark may be out of 72, but the conversion from raw marks to UMS varies every exam season to take into account the difficulty of the paper and to ensure the sort of mark spread the examiners' want. The conversion isn't determined until after the paper is taken, but it is highly unlikely that 90% of the raw marks will convert to 90% of the UMS marks.
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    Re: Failing/getting low grade on one paper?
    The lack of basic common sense and mathematical skill in this thread is disturbing.
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