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Am I allowed to move into halls without parents permission?

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Reply 60
Original post by Anonymous
Lool sounds like a plan.

But the wouldnt want me in the library at 11

And no :frown: biggest regret ever listening to them :frown:


Really good that you have realised that they are causing problems :smile: :yy: . Unfortunately for me it has resulted in me having no social life whatsoever :redface:

I hope that they have in the past allowed you to go out somewhere with friends, allowed them to come to your house/let you go to theirs? (Friends of the same sex at least)

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Original post by Anonymous
Unfortunately, my mum thinks its against islam to move into halls. Caue i need someone to protect me or something

I dunno if this is true


I doubt that "thou shalt not move into halls" (or however it's phrased in Arabic) is written in the Koran!

Would it be possible to get a more liberal but trusted imam to talk to your parents about it? Or (if your brother is supportive of you) could he talk to your parents about what actually goes on in halls, and how you won't have problems?

Could you come to an acceptable compromise - such as moving into an all-girls' hall (they do exist at some unis e.g. Manchester has St Gabriels) or into an all-girls flat within a mixed hall?

Bear in mind that if your parents were to seriously object to you living in halls, then they could refuse to sign your student finance forms for subsequent years. Although there is some loan that you can get without providing information on parental income, it won't be enough to pay your rent let alone living costs. There is extra funding available for those who are estranged from their parents, but you have to be properly estranged (i.e. no going home for Eid etc.) and able to prove it.
Reply 62
1) Go to library
2) Leave
3) Send text home saying you need to stay longer than you thought
4) Later, send another text saying you'll stay at a friends place which is a lot closer
Reply 63
Original post by avhhs
Really good that you have realised that they are causing problems :smile: :yy: . Unfortunately for me it has resulted in me having no social life whatsoever :redface:

I hope that they have in the past allowed you to go out somewhere with friends, allowed them to come to your house/let you go to theirs? (Friends of the same sex at least)

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Yeah my mum is fine with going out. As long as its not past 9 -_- But I'll be at my aunts which is a whole another story. I wont be allowed out then
Reply 64
Original post by Anonymous
Yeah my mum is fine with going out. As long as its not past 9 -_- But I'll be at my aunts which is a whole another story. I wont be allowed out then


Get your mum to make it clear to your aunt when she says you can be out?
Reply 65
lol I'm a muslim girl and your parents are being very weird.
Ask them to justify why its against 'Islam' or simply just ask them to find you exactly where in quran does it says its not allowed?
Reply 66
Original post by Origami Bullets
I doubt that "thou shalt not move into halls" (or however it's phrased in Arabic) is written in the Koran!

Would it be possible to get a more liberal but trusted imam to talk to your parents about it? Or (if your brother is supportive of you) could he talk to your parents about what actually goes on in halls, and how you won't have problems?

Could you come to an acceptable compromise - such as moving into an all-girls' hall (they do exist at some unis e.g. Manchester has St Gabriels) or into an all-girls flat within a mixed hall?

Bear in mind that if your parents were to seriously object to you living in halls, then they could refuse to sign your student finance forms for subsequent years. Although there is some loan that you can get without providing information on parental income, it won't be enough to pay your rent let alone living costs. There is extra funding available for those who are estranged from their parents, but you have to be properly estranged (i.e. no going home for Eid etc.) and able to prove it.


That's pretty good advice. Thanks :smile: I'll have to start fresh and talk to parents about it. Hopefully theyll come round in the end.
Reply 67
Original post by A.J10
1) Go to library
2) Leave
3) Send text home saying you need to stay longer than you thought
4) Later, send another text saying you'll stay at a friends place which is a lot closer


Lool my mum will kill me if i did that
Reply 68
Original post by A.J10
Get your mum to make it clear to your aunt when she says you can be out?


But my mum is pretty strict herself. She'll be even stricter if I'm somewhere else. Cause then it wont look good to the rest of the family
Reply 69
Original post by AxlGirlxai
lol I'm a muslim girl and your parents are being very weird.
Ask them to justify why its against 'Islam' or simply just ask them to find you exactly where in quran does it says its not allowed?


Cause as a muslim girl.. you need someone to protect you. Something like that
No offense guys but most of your 'Pakistani' parents moved to britain from villages decades ago. Pakistani parents back in Pakistan are VERY different now - my parents both lived in hostels when they were doing their universities - and no I don't belong to some high society family, I belong to an average family. While your parents seem to have shut down and regress back to stone age - I would really appreciate if you stop tagging all backward parents as Pakistani because to be honest after living in UK for over a decade, you are no longer a Pakistani anyway.
We have enough racists to deal with everyday who think our parents are some sort of terrorists when to be honest my parents are more excited than me regarding me moving into halls - same goes for all my friends. We don't need all of you struggling with your identities, to start tagging us as backwards.
Original post by Anonymous
That's pretty good advice. Thanks :smile: I'll have to start fresh and talk to parents about it. Hopefully theyll come round in the end.


Thanks :smile:

I've just remembered that Manchester does actually have some private halls which are run by the Manchester Islamic Education Trust (it says in small letters at the bottom of the page). You don't say where you are going, hence why I keep giving you Manchester-based examples, but I would imagine that other cities might have them too? http://www.hhr.miet.org.uk/

Have you also talked to them about how you're going to get heavily involved with your university's Islamic Soc, and how it will be difficult to socialise with other Muslims and engage in religious activities with them if you're not allowed out?
Reply 72
Original post by Anonymous
Cause as a muslim girl.. you need someone to protect you. Something like that


Thats rubbish. Tell her muhammad's wife was a businesswoman and travelled alone on her own.
Or quote surah hujrat that details the fact that guys and girls are suppose to talk to each and get to know each other (be friends). Self created religious policies won't do them any good!
Reply 73
Original post by axlgirlxai
thats rubbish. Tell her muhammad's wife was a businesswoman and travelled alone on her own.
Or quote surah hujrat that details the fact that guys and girls are suppose to talk to each and get to know each other (be friends). Self created religious policies won't do them any good!


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Reply 74
Original post by Origami Bullets
Thanks :smile:

I've just remembered that Manchester does actually have some private halls which are run by the Manchester Islamic Education Trust (it says in small letters at the bottom of the page). You don't say where you are going, hence why I keep giving you Manchester-based examples, but I would imagine that other cities might have them too? http://www.hhr.miet.org.uk/

Have you also talked to them about how you're going to get heavily involved with your university's Islamic Soc, and how it will be difficult to socialise with other Muslims and engage in religious activities with them if you're not allowed out?


Ohh do u know if theres one for birmingham?

Ermm they will allow me out. But I just want the independence tbh
Reply 75
Original post by AxlGirlxai
Thats rubbish. Tell her muhammad's wife was a businesswoman and travelled alone on her own.
Or quote surah hujrat that details the fact that guys and girls are suppose to talk to each and get to know each other (be friends). Self created religious policies won't do them any good!


They mean living by myself..
Do u mean this surat http://quran.com/49
Cause I cant find it
Reply 76
Original post by Anonymous
They mean living by myself..
Do u mean this surat http://quran.com/49
Cause I cant find it


49:13
Sahih International
O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.

All scholars agree it clearly states all 'tribes' should get to know each other. There is no 'women should sit seperately' and all that rubbish, thats all cultural.

If she argues more, remind her the Khadija was a businesswoman and also that Muhammad's daughter fell in love and got married too (her father happily married her off) - if men and women weren't allowed to be friends then how would she fall have fallen in love and asked her dad to marry her off to that guy? - so as far as you are concerned you aren't even trying to get on with a guy, whats the issue!

Even the stricter scholars agree, men and women can be friends as long as theres a 'respect' relationship between them but really thats old times.
Reply 77
Original post by Anonymous
They mean living by myself..
Do u mean this surat http://quran.com/49
Cause I cant find it


And oh studying and living next-door to a guy is not much different from working with a guy. Khadija and many other important islamic women of the time did trade and worked and travelled like men. Muhammad worked for Khadija as well.
Reply 78
Original post by AxlGirlxai
49:13
Sahih International
O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.

All scholars agree it clearly states all 'tribes' should get to know each other. There is no 'women should sit seperately' and all that rubbish, thats all cultural.

If she argues more, remind her the Khadija was a businesswoman and also that Muhammad's daughter fell in love and got married too (her father happily married her off) - if men and women weren't allowed to be friends then how would she fall have fallen in love and asked her dad to marry her off to that guy? - so as far as you are concerned you aren't even trying to get on with a guy, whats the issue!

Even the stricter scholars agree, men and women can be friends as long as theres a 'respect' relationship between them but really thats old times.


My whole life has been a lie:facepalm: The amount of times my mum said I wasnt allowed to be friends with a boy -_- I think its time for me to make a change in this family!

Thanks for enlightening me :smile:
Reply 79
Original post by Anonymous
They mean living by myself..
Do u mean this surat http://quran.com/49
Cause I cant find it


And since your parents are using Islam as an excuse, just remind them you have the exact same rights as your brother :smile:
If they say otherwise, ask them for written proof - which they won't have - but you will, but men-women equality is mentioned over a billion times in quran.

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