[anarchism101]

(Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
if there were no state schools, there would be a genuine free market in education

No there wouldn't. There isn't anything resembling a 'free market' in practically everything else that's privatised, why should we expect one here?

[far far away]

(Original post by HeyyImRyan)
Evidence from the May elections and opinion polls says otherwise, more and more people want an EU referendum and know that no other party will give them it.





Maybe you should check out their political stance and manifesto again, they've developed from a single-issue party into a party with much broader ambitions (especially in Buckinghamshire where they're the only Anti-HS2 political party). Admittedly that used to be the case, but no longer

So why is there a Green MP and not a UKIP one?

[HeyyImRyan]

(Original post by far far away)
So why is there a Green MP and not a UKIP one?

"Legalise Weed" and "Brighton" sums that one up pretty much I would say?


They'll win seats in the next GE, and just look at the MEPs, UKIP have 11/78.

[ukip72]

(Original post by anarchism101)
I quite like the Greens, I'd vote for them over any of the main parties, if I bothered.



The Greens are far more relevant than UKIP, in that the Greens actually get quite a good number of people elected at local and devolved level, whereas UKIP on the other hand.....

Sorry UKIP regularly poll above the Lib Dems, nobody's talking about the Greens as the people they have had elected are to positions nobody cares about. Its so obvious UKIP are the bigger party only Greens would disagree.

[M4LLY]

Yes

[Bulbasaur]

(Original post by anarchism101)
I quite like the Greens, I'd vote for them over any of the main parties, if I bothered.



The Greens are far more relevant than UKIP, in that the Greens actually get quite a good number of people elected at local and devolved level, whereas UKIP on the other hand.....

How so? In a time where the EU is in meltdown and the environment is still (as always) at the bottom of the list?
Regardless, opinion polls pretty much clear up this issue.

[When you see it...]

(Original post by Dalek1099)
It will probably be for really rich people,the 80% tax rate and I don't see why businesses,who don't agree to the environmental rules that would be set can't just be shut down and all their money given to the government and the business owners charged with environmental crime-if they did this then not many businesses would object and I do feel that the government needs to show more power and make more changes,that have a greater effect,because nothing seems to really change,with the current governments.

Only person who has got it spot on.

[Llamageddon]

(Original post by internetguru)
They are socialists so would probably have an 80% tax rate.

80% of nothing is still nothing.

They're actively and unashamedly anti-growth. What's worse is that much of what they consider to be core environmental issues such as fierce opposition to nuclear power and GM whilst ardently advocating organic are counter-productive for decreasing co2 emissions in a coalition, whereas if they had full power we'd be back in the agrarian age with the added bonus of mass starvation across the sodding country.

[Llamageddon]

(Original post by HeyyImRyan)
They'll win seats in the next GE

Heard that one a long time ago. They still haven't. Only reason they win MEP's is because nobody takes the european elections seriously, and even then those who are elected turn out to be crooks and cranks even by the very low standard set by other MEPs.

[Tahooper]

(Original post by Fool In The Rain)
Before I start, I must say to everyone reading that I'm no where near as knowledgeable on politics as some people on here.

I think that's quite obvious seeing as you support the Greens

Just kidding

The main reason not many people support them is because (whether or not this is true I have no idea) it is generally perceived that they would increase taxes, especially on things like carbon emissions, and people don't like paying taxes.

They are also viewed as a single-issue party i.e. the environment, just like UKIP used to be viewed as a single-issue party i.e. Europe.

[Carecup]

> UKIP supporters talking about how the Greens are not worth voting for since they are a one issue party



I'm of a similar view to the OP, and feel like Greens are probably a good option for any disenfranchised lefties here.

[anarchism101]

(Original post by ukip72)
Sorry UKIP regularly poll above the Lib Dems

And how has that translated in elections (you know those things that actually matter) so far?

nobody's talking about the Greens as the people they have had elected are to positions nobody cares about.

So what in your mind do people care about? The Greens have more people elected than UKIP to just about everything except MEPs, which are pretty much the least relevant thing we elect.

UKIP get a decent number of votes at a national level because that's the only place where their voters feel they have an effect - there they put pressure on the Tories to move more towards UKIP. But even there they're limited - looking at individual constituency votes in the last general election, UKIP stood hardly any chance of actually winning MPs. Apart from Farage when he was running against Bercow, UKIP have only ever picked up a double-figure vote in any constituency when the turnout's been very low.

[Bornblue]

(Original post by ukip72)
Personally I think the Greens have some mad policies. Nobody talks about them because they are largely irrelevant.

Says the UKIP supporter......
How many more MP's do you have than the Greens?
Even Galloway has more seats that your joke of a party.
However you are splitting the Tory vote so good job.

[JoeLatics]

Greens are the only Left wing party in Britain these days (expect,perhaps, Respect, but that's essentially a one man party), and thus my only option.


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[HarveyCanis]

Their ridiculous Luddite opposition to GM is enough of a reason to reject them.

[Teaddict]

Although the Green Party would argue they are not a single issue party, like UKIP, they massively emphasis one particular issue, in this case the environment. Now, the reason I dislike the Green Party is purely academic.

I dislike their unfounded opposition to nuclear power which I believe is absolutely necessary if the United Kingdom is to establish energy security. The logic behind Green Party opposition is somewhat naive, convoluted or just downright wrong. I remember the nonsense being put forward by Caroline Lucas surrounding the Fukushima disaster, the same disaster, incidentally, brought George Monbiot, a famous environmentalist, over the pro-nuclear position. He relinquished his former opposition in favour of a more practical, pragmatic and reasonable approach to energy.

The Green Party seems to believe that one can remove nuclear, natural gas, oil and coal from the equation and replace them entirely with renewable energies. Such a position is absolutely absurd and unachievable, and would fail to secure energy security.

They massively support wind farms which are quite inefficient, relatively expensive, absolutely hideous, responsible for the massive decline in bat populations and what do we get? very little energy and the closure of no traditional power plants because they must remain open on standby should the wind turbines fail to generate enough energy.

I wish I had more time to give a much more detailed answer, the question of energy and environment is a pet topic of mine, and one I absolutely love debating and discussing; perhaps check out my former comments on nuclear power here: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...0#post33763280

[internetguru]

(Original post by Muscovite)
Strange because their view on the banking industry is incredibly socialist; but one of the only socialist polices - every other view is either libertarian or purely shallow ecological. I think you may be kidding yourself that you're not a Socialist

I only like it because other parties are bail out morons. I would much rather take a real conservative approach and allow them to simply fail. You have two credible options regulation so they cannot fail or allowing them to fail. The current bail out nonsense is the most corrupt and money wasting option available.

[Carecup]

(Original post by Teaddict)

I dislike their unfounded opposition to nuclear power which I believe is absolutely necessary if the United Kingdom is to establish energy security. The logic behind Green Party opposition is somewhat naive, convoluted or just downright wrong. I remember the nonsense being put forward by Caroline Lucas surrounding the Fukushima disaster, the same disaster, incidentally, brought George Monbiot, a famous environmentalist, over the pro-nuclear position. He relinquished his former opposition in favour of a more practical, pragmatic and reasonable approach to energy.

You've pretty much summed up the only thing that's stopping me from voting green.

[JoeLatics]

(Original post by Carecup)
You've pretty much summed up the only thing that's stopping me from voting green.

So presumably you agree with every single line in another party's manifesto?

Sure, I disagree with the leadership on GM and one or two other things, but the fact that I agree with 95%+ of the manifesto means that I can fully back that party.


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[Carecup]

(Original post by JoeLatics)
So presumably you agree with every single line in another party's manifesto?

Sure, I disagree with the leadership on GM and one or two other things, but the fact that I agree with 95%+ of the manifesto means that I can fully back that party.


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There's no real need to take me quite so literally. But the fact that they want to get rid of nuclear power is a pretty huge thing for me since I believe that a properly maintained and controlled nuclear power grid is the way forward, at least until the green power sources become efficient enough to be able to provide power for the country.