FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion

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  1. ninuzu's Avatar
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    (Original post by crazymanny00)
    if you have the FP1 book by OCR (Douglas quadling.. something) on page 30 there is an explanation on how this is done. It's a lengthy process but you get there...

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    Ah thanks, I get it now
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    hey guys am i right in saying that for cubic roots...
    1.alpha + beta + gamma = -b/a
    2.(alpha x beta) + (alpha x gamma) + (beta x gamma) = c/a
    3.Alpha x beta x gamma = -d/a
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    thats right yeah
  4. Maphs's Avatar
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    If so than for january 2012 exam paper Q10)(ii) i substituted x = sqrt(u). and got the correct equation as shown in the mark scheme...
    " 9u^3 - 45u^2 + 72u - 4 " this is definitely correct, the mark scheme says so, but how can c = -4/9 because " alpha x beta x gamma = -d/a, so should it not be just 4/9???
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    i posted on that one earlier... i think it's because they started a on the x squarer coefficient not the x cubed and you had to use c/a not -d/a .... much confusion and trickery, but thats OCR for you
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  6. Maphs's Avatar
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    look here is what the mark scheme says for it but i do not understand, they have done the same thing for a.
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  7. Maphs's Avatar
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    EVEN " A " is done the weird way, but how comes if they started on the x squared one would the -45 now be the a??
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    i just dont know...
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    So..... who's hoping for a hard paper....? :P
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    you are right though, either were missing something or its wrong.... going more towards the ms being wrong haha
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    (Original post by RooT_Fifteen)
    So..... who's hoping for a hard paper....? :P
    for lower grade boundaries? personally i don't think it will be too hard anyway
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    LAST one to go , then halfterm!!!
    anyone same???
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    (Original post by crazymanny00)
    for lower grade boundaries? personally i don't think it will be too hard anyway
    i'm not sure.. given ocr's other maths exams this year, i think my money is on it being a hard paper
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    you could be right on that actually... S1 was hard.. i know M2 in jan was hard aswell but sitting that on the 22nd
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    I can tell you the D1 wasnt nice either (not that it ever is), and ah, good luck! this FP1 is my last exam 'till January
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
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    Can someone quickly run through part i?
    I can't see how 13^n + 6^(n-1) + 13^(n+1) + 6^n = 14 x 13^(n) + 7 x 6^(n-1)
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    Can someone please explain what you're meant to do when you're using method of differences then it asks for (sum of r=n+1 to infinity)?? Or if you have r=2 on the bottom of the sigma? I'm still confused.. :/
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    hey guys, i was doing an induction question and i came to a point where, oh what the heck let me tell you the question.
    The sum of ((2^r-1) = ((2^n) -1) from 1 to n
    and i got to the stage of ((2^k)-1) + ((2^k+1) -1) where i inputted n = k + 1
    and i do not understand how to simplify this to get = ((2^k+1) -1)
    if you do not understand my writing could you just try and do the question yourself? if you understand the question?
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    (Original post by As_Dust_Dances_)
    Can someone please explain what you're meant to do when you're using method of differences then it asks for (sum of r=n+1 to infinity)?? Or if you have r=2 on the bottom of the sigma? I'm still confused.. :/
    sum r=1 with n=infinity minus sum r=1 n=n i think
  20. Maphs's Avatar
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    Re: FP1 OCR (not MEI) 1st June Exam Discussion
    hey guys, i was doing an induction question and i came to a point where, oh what the heck let me tell you the question.
    The sum of ((2^r-1) = ((2^n) -1) from 1 to n
    and i got to the stage of ((2^k)-1) + ((2^k+1) -1) where i inputted n = k + 1
    and i do not understand how to simplify this to get = ((2^k+1) -1)
    if you do not understand my writing could you just try and do the question yourself? if you understand the question?
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