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    im starting grades this year, i noticed that there is an 'initial' grade for trinity guildhall for piano, am i allowed to jump straight to grade one without the initial exam at all?
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    You could skip to Grade 8 without doing any prior exams. You can enter for whatever you want. Don't do initial. Lots of people just wait until they're Grade 3 standard and do their first exam then.
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    You're allowed to jump straight to grade 3 if you want. Take a look at some of the example pieces, start from where you're at, not from where the books begin. Grade three incorporates hands together scales (two octaves) and arpeggios (two octaves), as well as some conducting, which is super easy. If you find scales easy and have already learnt quite a selection of pieces above Grade 3, go to grade 3 or grade 4. If not, then go to grade 2.
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    (Original post by lmsavk)
    You're allowed to jump straight to grade 3 if you want. Take a look at some of the example pieces, start from where you're at, not from where the books begin. Grade three incorporates hands together scales (two octaves) and arpeggios (two octaves), as well as some conducting, which is super easy. If you find scales easy and have already learnt quite a selection of pieces above Grade 3, go to grade 3 or grade 4. If not, then go to grade 2.
    i can play a few songs that use both hands, apologise, river flows in you etc however i started playing piano only last year and i cannot read music at all, so i was thinking grade one is suitable for me, do you think this is right??
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    Don't do Trinity Guildhall. :facepalm: Do ABRSM!
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    (Original post by yothi5)
    Don't do Trinity Guildhall. :facepalm: Do ABRSM!
    please explain why and what are the differences
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    (Original post by GdotL)
    You could skip to Grade 8 without doing any prior exams. You can enter for whatever you want. Don't do initial. Lots of people just wait until they're Grade 3 standard and do their first exam then.
    thank you, thats just what i needed
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    (Original post by GdotL)
    You could skip to Grade 8 without doing any prior exams. You can enter for whatever you want. Don't do initial. Lots of people just wait until they're Grade 3 standard and do their first exam then.
    Really? I'm pretty sure ABRSM at least required grade 5 theory first, and I'd assume they're similar there?
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    (Original post by Slumpy)
    Really? I'm pretty sure ABRSM at least required grade 5 theory first, and I'd assume they're similar there?
    im doing trinity guildhall, same applies to that as abrsm
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    (Original post by raiden95)
    im doing trinity guildhall, same applies to that as abrsm
    In that case, you can start as high as grade 5 I guess (unless you've already got the theory). I think I did grade 2 first, and I know lots of people who did 3-5 as their first one.
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    Nope. You can skip to any grade without doing the previous. However you will need to do grade 5 theory (written part) if you want to progress over grade 5 practical.

    And you should start learning to read the score. I started to learn piano myself a few years ago without any tuiton. Reading the music was quite challenging but after some practise you do not even need to think about it. I can play grade 5-6 pieces now . You should get a tutor or a couple of piano books to help you out.

    The difference between Trinity and ABRSM is that ABRSM is much more highly respected. This is because it is more challenging than trinity. The trinity exams are terribly easy when you compare them to the pieces and exercises that ABRSM require you to do. If you want to study music at uni then go with ABRSM.
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    (Original post by Slumpy)
    Really? I'm pretty sure ABRSM at least required grade 5 theory first, and I'd assume they're similar there?
    Yes, you'd need Grade 5 Theory beforehand if you wanted to progress past Grade 5 practically.
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    (Original post by Slumpy)
    Really? I'm pretty sure ABRSM at least required grade 5 theory first, and I'd assume they're similar there?
    Yes ABRSM do. I am not sure about Trinity but they probably do need grade 5 theory if one wants to progress over grade 5 in practical.

    My friend who does piano told me that this is not a requirement for Trinity...however I am not sure. It is too easy to go on to grade 8 without doing the written stuff :P.
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    (Original post by Bubblyminty)
    Nope. You can skip to any grade without doing the previous. However you will need to do grade 5 theory (written part) if you want to progress over grade 5 practical.

    And you should start learning to read the score. I started to learn piano myself a few years ago without any tuiton. Reading the music was quite challenging but after some practise you do not even need to think about it. I can play grade 5-6 pieces now . You should get a tutor or a couple of piano books to help you out.

    The difference between Trinity and ABRSM is that ABRSM is much more highly respected. This is because it is more challenging than trinity. The trinity exams are terribly easy when you compare them to the pieces and exercises that ABRSM require you to do. If you want to study music at uni then go with ABRSM.
    Im not doing music for uni, in fact not even for alevels, im doing it as a side to things and i thought it would look decent along with my CV, i was looking at the current syllabus, it says 2011-2012 if i learnt those pieces would it mean id have to do it before 2013? should i wait till the next syllabus before i start?
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    (Original post by raiden95)
    please explain why and what are the differences
    ABRSM is the more superior board in terms of technicality and skills. When I did my exams, to get on to Grade 6+, ABRSM requires Grade 5 theory, but Guildhall doesn't have such requirements.
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    (Original post by raiden95)
    Im not doing music for uni, in fact not even for alevels, im doing it as a side to things and i thought it would look decent along with my CV, i was looking at the current syllabus, it says 2011-2012 if i learnt those pieces would it mean id have to do it before 2013? should i wait till the next syllabus before i start?
    Well I think that the current pieces will expire at the end of this year or possibly very early 2013. If you have the time to practise and dedication to learn and read the music then I suggest you go for it this year. If not then wait until next year if you are too busy. Grade 1 piano is not too challenging if you can read music- the music is simple and most of the notes stays on the basic stave. There will not be any really high or low notes.

    You also need to learn you scales and arpeggios. Therefore I highly suggest you read learn to read music as you will understand things better if you do .

    It might look okay on your CV if it is relevant but I must say that Grade 1 piano is nothing too special that will make you stand out. If you really want anything that will be noticed then you should do some work-experience or volunteer.

    What are your plans after leaving school?
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    (Original post by yothi5)
    ABRSM is the more superior board in terms of technicality and skills. When I did my exams, to get on to Grade 6+, ABRSM requires Grade 5 theory, but Guildhall doesn't have such requirements.
    I know...it is so easy. I hate it when people in my music class brag about doing music exams when they do trinity. It requires no skill or knowledge whatsoever.
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    (Original post by Bubblyminty)
    Well I think that the current pieces will expire at the end of this year or possibly very early 2013. If you have the time to practise and dedication to learn and read the music then I suggest you go for it this year. If not then wait until next year if you are too busy. Grade 1 piano is not too challenging if you can read music- the music is simple and most of the notes stays on the basic stave. There will not be any really high or low notes.

    You also need to learn you scales and arpeggios. Therefore I highly suggest you read learn to read music as you will understand things better if you do .

    It might look okay on your CV if it is relevant but I must say that Grade 1 piano is nothing too special that will make you stand out. If you really want anything that will be noticed then you should do some work-experience or volunteer.

    What are your plans after leaving school?
    But the thing is i cant read music, id like to learn piano more in depth personally, i can play a few decent songs but its frustrating that i have to learn from a youtube link, i thought it would be a 2in1 learning and getting a qualification out of it, and i plan to take part in the london marathon in 2014 for fund raising
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    (Original post by Bubblyminty)
    I know...it is so easy. I hate it when people in my music class brag about doing music exams when they do trinity. It requires no skill or knowledge whatsoever.
    i was about to order material for trinity lol i guess thats changed now
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    by the way guys, which books should i get for grade 1 abrsm, the exams one? is that all i need

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