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    In a fairly recent Citizenship survey (asked by the government), when asked about immigration, 50% of respondents chose that immigration should be "reduced a lot", and 75% replied either it should be "reduced a lot" or "reduced a little" Only 19% of respondents said that immigration levels should "remain the same", and only 6% chose "increased a little" or "increased a lot".

    In a 2007 Ipsos Mori poll, 12% said immigration should be stopped altogether, whilst 68% responded that there were too many immigrants in Britain.


    My personal opinion on the issue is that immigration brings overall benefits to the economy, But these figures have lead me to ask, why is immigration perceived so negatively? Is it justified?
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    It's the theory that immigrants often come just for benefits and take jobs away from the indigenous population.
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    Here we go again...

    These are the facts: Immigration is not a bad thing... in moderation. Unfortunately a state policy of multiculturalism, mass immigration and allowing illegal immigration over the years 1997-2010 irreversibly harmed this country, leading to a huge increase in crime, disease, terrorism and attempted terrorism (check all of these figures out if you don't believe me; the violent crime one is particularly disturbing).

    Perhaps immigration does bring some benefit to the economy, but only for the big businesses, who can now hire cheap labour willing to work for less than minimum wage. I think if you were to go into some of the deprived, white working class areas of the country and state that you thought immigration brought 'overall benefit' to the economy you would get a very bad reception.

    Unfortunately the ruling classes and champagne socialists in their ivory towers experience none of these problems and believe that we are all living in a multicultural utopia. Working class and middle class resentment over this blissful ignorance only exacerbates the problem as people then believe they are trapped, not being listened to, and are having their livelihoods, jobs, and culture eroded by a state/elite imposed doctrine. This leads to the rise of racism, segregation, and race-conflict (among all races), and dangerous movements advocating all of these. In fact people should be directing their ire not at good immigrants - who are only taking their opportunity - but at the ruling classes, particularly the Labour Party who claim to represent the working man but sold him out over 1997-2010.

    And that is why immigration is perceived negatively.
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    Visit one of the towns that have loads of immigrants and tell me multiculturalism has been a good thing. It has contributed to the development of an underclass made up of working class British and foreign people. Areas are developing where British people are a minority which is slowly killing our culture.
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    Well the larger the population you would think the more competition for everything, such as houses, school/university places and jobs.
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    Blacks and asians are both over-represented in the prison system (blacks massively so). 3rd worlders generally have no skills. Their progeny reach back to their parents' or grandparents' country of origin for some sense of culture, and introduce practices, attitudes and religions that are not wanted and seem retrogressive to the native European population. They cluster around focal enclaves, to the extent that they can entirely transform areas, which consequently causes the previous residents to move out because housing prices are falling and the local butchers is now halal. There's debate about IQ scores of immigrants, but of course this goes against the theory that, even though populations have been evolving apart from one another for 10,000 years, there are no substantial differences in intelligence.


    Actually, how about you tell me why immigration from non-european nations should be perceived positively?
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    (Original post by prog2djent)
    The "people" in those video's are subhuman scum
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    Visit one of the towns that have loads of immigrants and tell me multiculturalism has been a good thing. It has contributed to the development of an underclass made up of working class British and foreign people. Areas are developing where British people are a minority which is slowly killing our culture.
    You know what you're talking about.
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    (Original post by siwelmail)
    You know what you're talking about.
    Yes I have been to the immigrant town I go to college in. There are areas where 90% of the people are from India or Poland.
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    Fairly sure on a question like this I'm gonna get lots of hate and negative ratings for saying this but tbh, I don't really care:

    People who look down on immigrants tend to be ignorant racist pigs who would probably fit right in with the BNP and everything. Have any of you ever even met an immigrant? Most of them are genuine hard-working people.

    I am as "British" as they come: white, middle-class, goes to a grammar school, Christian... do I care if someone is a different skin to me, or if they come from abroad? Immigrants don't "steal" British jobs - open your eyes people; or else you can just go believe whatever rubbish Rupert Murdoch preaches at you in his trashy newspaper columns.

    Blaming all our problems on immigrants and other handy scapegoats; it's no different to what the Nazis did in the 30s and 40s... we've got an "Islamic problem" or "we've got a Paki problem"... it's so stupid and ignorant!! And yes, when you get to the extremes of that argument it leads to genocide...

    To answer the question, immigration is perceived negatively by ignorant people who usually want to scapegoat some slightly different group of people for all their problems. It's irrational and intolerant. So forgive me if my overly-tolerant view offends you; the only thing I can't stand is blatant racism dressed up as logical and coherent argument when it is anything but.

    And yes, it makes me a little annoyed, because I'm a simple person believing that a little love, a little peace and a little acceptance goes a long way!

    *expects on all the hate I'll get*
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    (Original post by Amos36)
    Fairly sure on a question like this I'm gonna get lots of hate and negative ratings for saying this but tbh, I don't really care:

    People who look down on immigrants tend to be ignorant racist pigs who would probably fit right in with the BNP and everything. Has any of you ever even met an immigrant? Most of them are genuine hard-working people.

    I am as "British" as they come: white, middle-class, goes to a grammar school, Christian... do I care if someone is a different skin to me, or if they come from abroad? Immigrants don't "steal" British jobs - open your eyes people; or else you can just go believe whatever rubbish Rupert Murdoch preaches at you in his trashy newspaper columns.

    Blaming all our problems on immigrants and other handy scapegoats; it's no different to what the Nazis did in the 30s and 40s... we've got an "Islamic problem" or "we've got a Paki problem"... it's so stupid and ignorant!! And yes, when you get to the extremes of that argument it leads to genocide...

    To answer the question, immigration is perceived negatively by ignorant people who usually want to scapegoat some slightly different group of people for all their problems. It's irrational and intolerant. So forgive me if my overly-tolerant view offends you; the only thing I can't stand is blatant racism dressed up as logical and coherent argument when it is anything but.

    And yes, it makes me a little annoyed, because I'm a simple person believing that a little love, a little peace and a little acceptance goes a long way!
    *expects on all the hate I'll get*
    Last week I asked a local business if they were recruiting. The owner said, "Why would I hire you when I can get a Pole for half the price?"

    middle-class, goes to a grammar school
    This is why you don't get it.
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    (Original post by Notethis)
    Blacks and asians are both over-represented in the prison system (blacks massively so). 3rd worlders generally have no skills. Their progeny reach back to their parents' or grandparents' country of origin for some sense of culture, and introduce practices, attitudes and religions that are not wanted and seem retrogressive to the native European population. They cluster around focal enclaves, to the extent that they can entirely transform areas, which consequently causes the previous residents to move out because housing prices are falling and the local butchers is now halal. There's debate about IQ scores of immigrants, but of course this goes against the theory that, even though populations have been evolving apart from one another for 10,000 years, there are no substantial differences in intelligence.


    Actually, how about you tell me why immigration from non-european nations should be perceived positively?
    :congrats:

    There's also the fact that those reliant on council housing are pushed out by immigrants having a ridiculous number of children, and therefore take up larger places while smaller families have to deal with terribly cramped conditions.
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    (Original post by Amos36)
    Fairly sure on a question like this I'm gonna get lots of hate and negative ratings for saying this but tbh, I don't really care:

    People who look down on immigrants tend to be ignorant racist pigs who would probably fit right in with the BNP and everything. Has any of you ever even met an immigrant? Most of them are genuine hard-working people.

    I am as "British" as they come: white, middle-class, goes to a grammar school, Christian... do I care if someone is a different skin to me, or if they come from abroad? Immigrants don't "steal" British jobs - open your eyes people; or else you can just go believe whatever rubbish Rupert Murdoch preaches at you in his trashy newspaper columns.

    Blaming all our problems on immigrants and other handy scapegoats; it's no different to what the Nazis did in the 30s and 40s... we've got an "Islamic problem" or "we've got a Paki problem"... it's so stupid and ignorant!! And yes, when you get to the extremes of that argument it leads to genocide...

    To answer the question, immigration is perceived negatively by ignorant people who usually want to scapegoat some slightly different group of people for all their problems. It's irrational and intolerant. So forgive me if my overly-tolerant view offends you; the only thing I can't stand is blatant racism dressed up as logical and coherent argument when it is anything but.

    And yes, it makes me a little annoyed, because I'm a simple person believing that a little love, a little peace and a little acceptance goes a long way!

    *expects on all the hate I'll get*
    No, your just a perfect example of an ignorant libtard whom hasn't been affected by their fantasy multicultural dream as they are as you say yourself, middle class and go to a grammar school. You don't reside where all these 3rd world immigrants do, you are clueless.
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    (Original post by FDR)
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    Its mainly down to the Media
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    (Original post by Amos36)
    I am as "British" as they come: white, middle-class, goes to a grammar school, Christian...
    And therein lies the problem.

    Go and live in inner-city Bradford for a year and let's see if you come to the same conclusion.
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    (Original post by x_Natalie_x)
    Unfortunately the ruling classes and champagne socialists in their ivory towers experience none of these problems and believe that we are all living in a multicultural utopia.
    Case in point:



    How much do you wanna bet that she lives in a 99% white area...
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    (Original post by x_Natalie_x)
    Here we go again...

    These are the facts: Immigration is not a bad thing... in moderation. Unfortunately a state policy of multiculturalism, mass immigration and allowing illegal immigration over the years 1997-2010 irreversibly harmed this country, leading to a huge increase in crime, disease, terrorism and attempted terrorism (check all of these figures out if you don't believe me; the violent crime one is particularly disturbing).

    Perhaps immigration does bring some benefit to the economy, but only for the big businesses, who can now hire cheap labour willing to work for less than minimum wage. I think if you were to go into some of the deprived, white working class areas of the country and state that you thought immigration brought 'overall benefit' to the economy you would get a very bad reception.

    Unfortunately the ruling classes and champagne socialists in their ivory towers experience none of these problems and believe that we are all living in a multicultural utopia. Working class and middle class resentment over this blissful ignorance only exacerbates the problem as people then believe they are trapped, not being listened to, and are having their livelihoods, jobs, and culture eroded by a state/elite imposed doctrine. This leads to the rise of racism, segregation, and race-conflict (among all races), and dangerous movements advocating all of these. In fact people should be directing their ire not at good immigrants - who are only taking their opportunity - but at the ruling classes, particularly the Labour Party who claim to represent the working man but sold him out over 1997-2010.

    And that is why immigration is perceived negatively.
    Even as an immigrant I agree with this.

    Plus remember that most of the people who love up multiculturalism are the ones whose experience of it is that now they can have some new and exotic things for dinner and they can have a cheap builder. They have no idea.
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    (Original post by Amos36)
    Fairly sure on a question like this I'm gonna get lots of hate and negative ratings for saying this but tbh, I don't really care:

    People who look down on immigrants tend to be ignorant racist pigs who would probably fit right in with the BNP and everything. Has any of you ever even met an immigrant? Most of them are genuine hard-working people.

    I am as "British" as they come: white, middle-class, goes to a grammar school, Christian... do I care if someone is a different skin to me, or if they come from abroad? Immigrants don't "steal" British jobs - open your eyes people; or else you can just go believe whatever rubbish Rupert Murdoch preaches at you in his trashy newspaper columns.

    Blaming all our problems on immigrants and other handy scapegoats; it's no different to what the Nazis did in the 30s and 40s... we've got an "Islamic problem" or "we've got a Paki problem"... it's so stupid and ignorant!! And yes, when you get to the extremes of that argument it leads to genocide...

    To answer the question, immigration is perceived negatively by ignorant people who usually want to scapegoat some slightly different group of people for all their problems. It's irrational and intolerant. So forgive me if my overly-tolerant view offends you; the only thing I can't stand is blatant racism dressed up as logical and coherent argument when it is anything but.

    And yes, it makes me a little annoyed, because I'm a simple person believing that a little love, a little peace and a little acceptance goes a long way!

    *expects on all the hate I'll get*
    No, you don't understand. You not only do not understand the issue but also the OP's question itself. They asked why people have a problem with immigration, not with immigrants.

    Hardly anybody has anything at all against immigrants themselves. Mainly because they know they'd do the same. However, that is a world away from being against immigration itself.

    Factors may include saturation of the work force (particularly the working-class work force), division among cultural lines etc etc. I'd imagine the first point in particular is something folk like you have absolutely no concept of.

    Trust me, hugely saturating your industry is not something to thank somebody for.
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