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  1. Edwin Okli's Avatar
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    (Original post by Amirrryy)
    yea i know how to create a primary key, but when does the primary key compose of TWO or even THREE attributes rather than the usual one? (i.e. composite keys)
    Say you're creating a database for a library where a book cannot be returned the same day that it is borrowed. This allows you to have a loans table where the primary key is the copy of the book and the date that it is borrowed. We know that, because each book copy has a unique ID, there is no chance of a non-unique primary key therefore it is not worth creating a new column.

    To ensure that this relation is normalised, every attribute must be dependent on the whole of the key (2NF says that there should be no partial key dependencies.)

    Composite keys can also appear when taking a table into 1NF (see the textbook).
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    (Original post by Edwin Okli)
    Say you're creating a database for a library where a book cannot be returned the same day that it is borrowed. This allows you to have a loans table where the primary key is the copy of the book and the date that it is borrowed. We know that, because each book copy has a unique ID, there is no chance of a non-unique primary key therefore it is not worth creating a new column.

    To ensure that this relation is normalised, every attribute must be dependent on the whole of the key (2NF says that there should be no partial key dependencies.)

    Composite keys can also appear when taking a table into 1NF (see the textbook).
    thanks man i understand it a bit more now
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    Re: AQA COMP3 June 2012 Exam Thread
    (Original post by exam2k10)
    BTW, how screwed am I and am I the only one feeling a bit nervous?
    Nope, I'm really worried about this exam too. I'm pretty confident on most of the main material, but all it takes is for them to ask a string of questions based around relatively obscure topics in the textbook for you to end up losing a large number of marks.

    My revision plan is pretty much exactly the same as yours; get some past paper questions done, do a full past paper, then go over all my revision notes.
    Last edited by AntiSpiral; 10-06-2012 at 10:40.
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    Re: AQA COMP3 June 2012 Exam Thread
    can switches be used for bus networks? or is a bus network with a switch the same thing as a star network? confused
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    Re: AQA COMP3 June 2012 Exam Thread
    can someone help me how to do this q as well thanks

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    (Original post by Amirrryy)
    can switches be used for bus networks? or is a bus network with a switch the same thing as a star network? confused
    switched Ethernet Looks like a star but behaves like a bus. It sends frames by creating a temporary connection between the reciever and transmitter of a frame. To avoid collisions it buffers frames by placing them in a queue

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    switched Ethernet Looks like a star but behaves like a bus. It sends frames by creating a temporary connection between the reciever and transmitter of a frame. To avoid collisions it buffers frames by placing them in a queue

    This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my Nexus S
    isnt that the same as a star?? or is it just an improved bus network then?
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    (Original post by Amirrryy)
    isnt that the same as a star?? or is it just an improved bus network then?
    Topology: Star
    Behaviour: Bus

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    Think about what happens in each case if some information about the coin changes or if some information about the supplier changes. Think about it first and then I will explain if you are still stuck.
    Ok right so because CoinID is unique to each coin if you added more CoinID's to the table then you'd keep repeating supplierID. And in the supplier table the supplier supplies loads of coins then it's not unique so CoinID is added? Wait that's wrong. Argh I'm still stuck.
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    Topology: Star
    Behaviour: Bus

    ok to get this straight then lol a bus with a switch is a star
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    Its a star because the switch is connected by unique cables to each node/computer. It's a bus because of the way it handles connections, ie. it uses a backbone
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    A single network can have multiple topologies.


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    can someone please tell me the answer to part b... why cant the printer be directly connected to the switch? in the ms it says the printer has to be connected to a computer which is connected to the switch not directly to the switch...is that always the case or just for "Peer to peer" networks or what? :L

    many thanks in advance


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    (Original post by Amirrryy)
    can someone please tell me the answer to part b... why cant the printer be directly connected to the switch? in the ms it says the printer has to be connected to a computer which is connected to the switch not directly to the switch...is that always the case or just for "Peer to peer" networks or what? :L

    many thanks in advance


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    Yeah, I didn't really understand that either. I think its because you can't set up the printer as a standalone node on older printers and thats from the old spec
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    Re: AQA COMP3 June 2012 Exam Thread
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    Ok right so because CoinID is unique to each coin if you added more CoinID's to the table then you'd keep repeating supplierID. And in the supplier table the supplier supplies loads of coins then it's not unique so CoinID is added? Wait that's wrong. Argh I'm still stuck.
    Case 1: A coin has 1 supplier and suppliers can supply many coins - Supplier ID in the Coin table
    Case2: A coin can have many suppliers but each supplier can only supply 1 coin - CoinID in supplier table
    Case 3: A coin can have many suppliers and suppliers can store more than 1 coin - You need a table in the middle or the Coin table and the Supplier Table which only holds the link between the two tables (as to break the many to many relationship)
    In case 1: If you don't have separate tables then when the supplier changes you have to change the supplier details in every coin.

    Case 2: If information about a coin changes then you have to change information about the coin many times

    Case 3: If either changes then you would have to change all the records if the tables were not set up properly.

    Normalisation minimises repeated data and safeguards for the future by removing the need to update in multiple places.

    (Original post by Amirrryy)
    can someone please tell me the answer to part b... why cant the printer be directly connected to the switch? in the ms it says the printer has to be connected to a computer which is connected to the switch not directly to the switch...is that always the case or just for "Peer to peer" networks or what? :L

    many thanks in advance


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    Is it not because in a peer to peer network there are no central servers, for the printer to be directly connected to the switch there would need to be a print server which handled printing requests. In a peer to peer network each terminal is both the client and the server hence the printer must be connected to one of them.
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    (Original post by SecondHand)
    In case 1: If you don't have separate tables then when the supplier changes you have to change the supplier details in every coin.

    Case 2: If information about a coin changes then you have to change information about the coin many times

    Case 3: If either changes then you would have to change all the records if the tables were not set up properly.

    Normalisation minimises repeated data and safeguards for the future by removing the need to update in multiple places.



    Is it not because in a peer to peer network there are no central servers, for the printer to be directly connected to the switch there would need to be a print server which handled printing requests. In a peer to peer network each terminal is both the client and the server hence the printer must be connected to one of them.
    i think it can be connected directly :/ i dont see why not. If each is a server and client on its own then surely a printer can be a server on its own too...unless workstations only mean computers and not printers but i think workstations stands for computer and peripherals which in this case is a printer...so i think it can be but this is old spec. am i correct?
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    i think its cause the printer only acts a server and not a client in that kind of network, i guess.. my printer is connected to the network though so it seems kind of a poitnless distinction to me
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    Re: AQA COMP3 June 2012 Exam Thread
    I have a feeling the 6 marker may have something to do with Operating Systems, and choosing the correct OS, or attributes from more than 1 OS for a particular Situation, and an explanation as to why you chose those attributes.
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    Re: AQA COMP3 June 2012 Exam Thread
    I think this paper will have a few high markers such as OS, encryption+ use of public keys and private keys and maybe firewalls. May well also have stuff on network adapters (which I know nothing about).
    As for the rest, well real numbers will be in it, SQL + Database will be in it, but I really think binary tree traversal will be in it as it requires a stack or if not a recursive function. Also hashing may be another possibility if not the insertion sort will since it has not come up before. Need 70/100 for an A which I will be so proud of, if I do get it.
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    Re: AQA COMP3 June 2012 Exam Thread
    (Original post by exe)
    i think its cause the printer only acts a server and not a client in that kind of network, i guess.. my printer is connected to the network though so it seems kind of a poitnless distinction to me
    same..thanks
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