Why are the judges so lenient?

Because of the single punch rule. I could go punch a guy in the street right now, and have been assaulted myself a couple of times, and would never expect the perpetrator to get anywhere near 8 years. It's really the intent that matters. Once the guy ceases to be a danger to the public then I'm not particularly bothered about punishment for the sake of punishment.

punching =/= murder

Never heard of single punch manslaughter?

Don't mean to butt in but it annoys me when people make comments like that, you do not know the person you are speaking to and have no idea what they are capable of, so why put people down like that?

I do have compassion just not for violent criminals,drug users and the like.

Please watch the 3 guys 1 hammer video and then come tell me we need less harsh sentences.

The pot smell is strong in you.

Cute, modern day hippies defending their drug use.

I don't understand this. A rapist can serve 2-3 years in prison. A drunk driver that kills people will be unlucky if he serves any time at all. Violent criminals aren't even getting a decade anymore. The prison system is a joke, it's a slap on the wrist and career criminals are taking advantages of it.
I'm all for the death penalty. The cost of commiting a crime is much higher when getting caught means dying.

Do it Saudi arabia style: rapists get their penis cut and you'll see how much rape will decline.
Start jailing drug users: no demand, no supply.

Stop being so lenient.

Murder- death
Rape- death
Assault- 20 years
Armed robbery- 20 years
Drug trafficing/distribution- death
Drug posession- 10 years
sodomy- 5 years
Theft- 15 years
petty theft- 5 years

And stop wasting public money and time by having a divorce take 2 years to resolve in court. It should be dealt with in a matter of weeks, 2-3 months at best.
It's a joke that it takes 2 minutes to sign a paper and get married but that long to get divorced.

OP is completely correct that the sentencing in the UK is extremely bad.It is not just OP,who thinks this,not too long ago there was a big protest,near where I live about murderers not being sentenced for life in Prison and the average prison sentence for murder is often 20 years,which is a joke and if we lock up prisoners for longer then less crimes will be committed because let out prisoners have often went on to murder more and capital punishment is even better because it saves all the money,that would be wasted on the prisoners.

I think the quality of prison needs to be vastly diminished and people shouldn't be feed any more than Africans get and I want to hear of prisoners dying from disease and malnutrition but I have never heard of it,yet has happened in Africa and they haven't done anything wrong and I have heard of people,who deliberately commit crimes to get good quality food and services in prison and this is not right.In truth there is no excuse for any serious crime,like murder because they have been told-is what I always think and we really need to torture and get rid of these evils souls,so that more money can be spent on good souls.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

^ What your post reads like. Please go back and fix it up a bit so I can go ahead and destroy your argument.

''male homosexuals and bisexuals lose up to 20 years of their life expectancy, compared to 13.5 years for cigarette smokers:''

http://catholicism.org/government-issues-warning-on-dangers-of-sodomy.html
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/ho0075.html

''male homosexuals and bisexuals lose up to 20 years of their life expectancy, compared to 13.5 years for cigarette smokers:''

http://catholicism.org/government-issues-warning-on-dangers-of-sodomy.html
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/ho0075.html

sodomy- 5 years

Theft- 15 years
petty theft- 5 years

Assault- 20 years

OP is completely correct that the sentencing in the UK is extremely bad.

It is not just OP,who thinks this,not too long ago there was a big protest,near where I live about murderers not being sentenced for life in Prison. The average prison sentence for murder is often 20 years,which is a joke.

If we lock up prisoners for longer then it will serve as a deterrent, hence less crimes will be committed. Prisoners who have been released often re-offend resulting in more murders. Capital punishment is an even better method of punishment because it saves all the money,that would be wasted on the prisoners.

I think the quality of prison needs to be vastly diminished and inmates shouldn't be feed any more than starvation rations, similar to some of the poorest in Africa. Heck, I want to hear of prisoners dying from disease and malnutrition but alas I have not as yet. Thousands die in Africa and many other parts of the world due to this and yet they have done nothing wrong. I have heard of people,who deliberately commit crimes to get good quality food and services in prison and this is not right.

In truth there is no excuse for any serious crime,like murder because they have been told. (Can't make sense out of this last bit) is what I always think and. We should implement a system of torture and eventual death penalty to free up funds for the law abiding citizens of this country.

It is not just OP,who thinks this,not too long ago there was a big protest,near where I live about murderers not being sentenced for life in Prison. The average prison sentence for murder is often 20 years,which is a joke.

If we lock up prisoners for longer then it will serve as a deterrent, hence less crimes will be committed. Prisoners who have been released often re-offend resulting in more murders. Capital punishment is an even better method of punishment because it saves all the money,that would be wasted on the prisoners.

I think the quality of prison needs to be vastly diminished and inmates shouldn't be feed any more than starvation rations, similar to some of the poorest in Africa. Heck, I want to hear of prisoners dying from disease and malnutrition but alas I have not as yet. Thousands die in Africa and many other parts of the world due to this and yet they have done nothing wrong. I have heard of people,who deliberately commit crimes to get good quality food and services in prison and this is not right.

In truth there is no excuse for any serious crime,like murder because they have been told. (Can't make sense out of this last bit) is what I always think and. We should implement a system of torture and eventual death penalty to free up funds for the law abiding citizens of this country.

I'm bored, hence I fixed up your post.

And now I'll go through it and respond to it since I can make sense of it.



First part is totally anecdotal but there's always a huge populist sentiment behind 'tougher sentences for crime' and the like. It bares very little relevance to the debate in hand. Second part you are wrong about. The crime of murder carries a mandatory life sentence which can be 15,20,25 or full life depending on the severity of the crime committed and the judge's discretion.



There is much evidence that suggests this isn't the case.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/2007/01/the_irrational_18yearold_criminal.html

Capital punishment costs on average in the US just as much if not more than life in prison thanks to the strenuous legal procedure they must go through to ensure that the prisoner is in fact guilty (even then they have still executed innocent men).

http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001000



Human rights? Ever heard of them? Also hope you've never downloaded any copyrighted music or other media, since you know that is an indictable offense that can carry a prison sentence, a prison sentence in one of your African hell hole prisons.



Crimes of passion? Battered women/men? Self Defense? Provocation? There are plenty of reasons someone can commit murder. Already dealt with the second point.

Why should humans,who have committed crime get human rights?and I don't think downloading media should be illegal,especially since the businesses,which make them are already making millions.

What? Maybe we should monitor everything everyone ever does ever too. How about cameras everywhere. No! I have a better idea. Rather than having a list of things that are not allowed, it would make more sense to have a list of things which are allowed. Death if you are doing something that is not on the list.




Pretty harsh.




Off-topic, but if someone assaults a police officer, is it any different from assaulting smoeone they know? I don't think it should be.

Because they are Human Rights for humans. You will commit a crime at some point in your life, in fact you've probably already committed a few. Thanks to your logic that will allow the government to torture and kill you with no due process.

Not to mention the whole generation of teenagers and young adults wiped out for minor drug offenses.