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  1. arvin_infinity's Avatar
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    Sketching functions
    It would be appreciated if someone help me out with sketching these 2 functions

    1)

    f(x)= e-x+4 -2 ********* f(x)>=1

    using transformation



    2) f(x)= ln(4-2x) x<2
    As for 2nd one I can sketch ln(-2x) but not ln (4-2x) !!!
    To me its just ln(-2x) shifted by 4 units to the left on x direction but I am wrong according to the mark scheme!

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    Last edited by arvin_infinity; 02-06-2012 at 15:42.
  2. Llewellyn's Avatar
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    Re: Sketching functions
    For these types of questions, sometimes it is helpful to re-write the function you are drawing.

    For example: 1 could also be e^{-x} \times e^4 -2

    And 2 could be ln(2(2-x)) and hence also ln(2-x) + ln2

    In my opinion, those are much easier to work out in that form.
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    Re: Sketching functions
    1)

    Let g(x)=e^{-x}

    Can you draw g(x)?

    Then g(x-4) = e^{-(x-4)} = e^{-x+4}

    You should know how to draw g(x-4), given g(x). Finally,

    f(x)=g(x-4)-2


    2)

    Let h(x)=\ln(-2x) then h(x-2) = \ln(-2(x-2)) = \ln(4-2x)

    Does this help?

    You should never assume just by seeing e.g. an extra 4 in the function, that the function will be moved/stretched by 4 units. Always try to go through the steps like I've done above.
    Last edited by notnek; 28-05-2012 at 14:27.
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    Re: Sketching functions
    (Original post by notnek)
    1)

    Let g(x)=e^{-x}

    Can you draw g(x)?

    Then g(x-4) = e^{-(x-4)} = e^{-x+4}

    You should know how to draw g(x-4), given g(x). Finally,

    f(x)=g(x-4)-2


    2)

    Let h(x)=\ln(-2x) then h(x-2) = \ln(-2(x-2)) = \ln(4-2x)

    Does this help?

    You should never assume just by seeing e.g. an extra 4 in the function, that the function will be moved/stretched by 4 units. Always try to go through the steps like I've done above.
    Well above confirms that my method was totally wrong :crazy: but didn't really follow what you are doing...
    why would you find h(x-2)?
    am I reading it backwards ? as in you factorise the 2 and then you thought that's equal to h(x-2)?
    Your method is totally new to me!
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    Re: Sketching functions
    (Original post by Llewellyn)
    For these types of questions, sometimes it is helpful to re-write the function you are drawing.

    For example: 1 could also be e^{-x} \times e^4 -2

    And 2 could be ln(2(2-x)) and hence also ln(2-x) + ln2

    In my opinion, those are much easier to work out in that form.
    Above did come into my mind but didn't know how to proceed further!
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    Re: Sketching functions
    (Original post by arvin_infinity)
    Above did come into my mind but didn't know how to proceed further!
    I would follow Notnek's advice here. It is better than what I proposed. What Notnek is suggesting is that you draw a familiar function, like e^-x and then you transform that.

    This is generally not advisable, but if you have no idea how to tackle a question, I would recommend finding y when x= 0 and finding x(s) when y=0 and then finding the asymptotes and then drawing a general sketch. That isn't very good practice, but in an exam it would pick up quite a few marks.
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    Re: Sketching functions
    (Original post by Llewellyn)
    you draw a familiar function, like e^-x and then you transform that.
    Yh pls elaborate a bit !!
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    (Original post by arvin_infinity)
    Yh pls elaborate a bit !!
    Please excuse my rushed drawing. I also meant to say "4 units to the right" on my second diagram.
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    To get the x axis intercept, rearrange the equation to get x = 4- ln ((f(x) + 2) and set f(x) to 0.

    Of course, the question asks you for x >= 1, in which case you will need to include this point (x, f(x)) when x =1.

    Is there anything you don't understand?
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    Re: Sketching functions
    (Original post by arvin_infinity)
    Well above confirms that my method was totally wrong :crazy: but didn't really follow what you are doing...
    why would you find h(x-2)?
    am I reading it backwards ? as in you factorise the 2 and then you thought that's equal to h(x-2)?
    Your method is totally new to me!
    I don't think the method is new to you but maybe you're out of practice or I went too fast. Here's a few more examples:

    f(x)=2x, \ \ g(x)=2x+2

    What is the transformation to get from f(x) -> g(x)?


    A common mistake is to assume that the transformation will be by 2 units but this will not work e.g.

    f(x+2) = 2(x+2) = 2x+4 \neq g(x)


    It makes things clearer if you factorise:

    f(x)=2x, \ \ g(x)=2(x+1)

    Now you should be able to see that g(x)=f(x+1) so the transformation will be a translation 1 unit to the left.


    Another example (similar to your question): f(x)=-2x, \ \ g(x)=4-2x

    Factorising gives:

    f(x)=-2x, \ \ g(x)=-2(x-2) = f(x-2)


    So f(x) -> g(x) is a translation 2 units to the right.
    Last edited by notnek; 29-05-2012 at 03:25.
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    Re: Sketching functions
    (Original post by Llewellyn)
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    You are a legend that drawing made it so clear for me..



    (Original post by notnek)
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    Yh you both using the same method and I guess I was using a simplified stupid version of it in my head..cuz I would never write "am sketching f(x+2)" and therefore never occurred to me that am sketching something else
    Lol at the common mistake..! I actually fell into that trap.

    wondered if you guys have more practice questions on this
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