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  1. pinda.college's Avatar
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    Have I ****ed up?
    Excuse my language, I have recieved some module marks today and feel really down I have just completed my first year of politics and philosphy however my module grades are not brilliant.

    I have taken 6 modules this year, each module being worth 20 credits. The grades I have atm are below:

    Module 1- A
    Module 2- C
    Module 3-B
    Module 4- E ()
    Module 5- D ()
    Module 6- pending

    I have not been given 20 credits for module 4 because I got an E however, I have for module D. So I currently have 80/120 credits. I am worried that I will not be allowed to progress onto the second year

    Based on this knowledge, what kind of mark am I looking at, 2.2. or a 3rd?

    I am really upset about those two low modules, I did not attend a single lecture for module 4 so I had it coming however, I thought I had done better in module 5

    Anyway the results are all provisional so does this mean they are not yet definite?

    Thanks for your advice in advance.
  2. pinda.college's Avatar
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    I have just been told that you need about 40% in the first year to pass, but it doesn't count towards your final degree classification:s

    Is this true?
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    Usually first year does not count but you need to pass it, im not in uni so dont take my word for it.
  4. Mr. Tizzy XII's Avatar
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    I don't understand why you're given 'Grades'? We're just given percentages. For my course you had to simply get 40%+ in each module to pass, and if at the end of the year you had failed a module you could either - get a deferred pass (usually if >35%, only one or two modules failed, and the other modules had decent passes), or you'd resit the failed module next year. Or if you'd failed a few and your other modules were poor, you might have to retake the year.
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    (Original post by pinda.college)
    x
    Depends how tight your uni/prof is.

    Technically you shouldn't be allowed if you haven't reached your quota. Or in other words, they have full right to tell you to go away. But I can't imagine them doing so, unless you're in some sort of top uni/your professor is very pedantic.
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    (Original post by pinda.college)
    Excuse my language, I have recieved some module marks today and feel really down I have just completed my first year of politics and philosphy however my module grades are not brilliant.

    I have taken 6 modules this year, each module being worth 20 credits. The grades I have atm are below:

    Module 1- A
    Module 2- C
    Module 3-B
    Module 4- E ()
    Module 5- D ()
    Module 6- pending

    I have not been given 20 credits for module 4 because I got an E however, I have for module D. So I currently have 80/120 credits. I am worried that I will not be allowed to progress onto the second year

    Based on this knowledge, what kind of mark am I looking at, 2.2. or a 3rd?

    I am really upset about those two low modules, I did not attend a single lecture for module 4 so I had it coming however, I thought I had done better in module 5

    Anyway the results are all provisional so does this mean they are not yet definite?

    Thanks for your advice in advance.
    You'll need to resit the ones you've failed.
  7. BO'H's Avatar
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    not only have you f**ked up but you are clearly a bit of an idiot as well. are you proud of not attending a single lecture for one of your modules?

    you feel down. awwww. cry me a river.
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    (Original post by pinda.college)
    I have just been told that you need about 40% in the first year to pass, but it doesn't count towards your final degree classification:s

    Is this true?
    This is all dependent upon the specific rules of your specific course at your specific university.
  9. pinda.college's Avatar
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    As it stand the E is the only one I have failed according to fact that I haven't been rewarded any credits. This module however, consisted of two assignments.
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    (Original post by Mr. Tizzy XII)
    I don't understand why you're given 'Grades'? We're just given percentages. For my course you had to simply get 40%+ in each module to pass
    Percentages are much better IMO. Sadly we're changing what appears to be a halfway house between percentages and the letter system. It's a little more accurate then just five letters, but not as much as percentages were. We're basically getting given some sort of letter or code which can represent..

    Low third, high third, low 2:2, high 2:2, low 2:1, high 2:1, 1st.
  11. pinda.college's Avatar
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    (Original post by BO'H)
    not only have you f**ked up but you are clearly a bit of an idiot as well. are you proud of not attending a single lecture for one of your modules?

    you feel down. awwww. cry me a river.
    Do not assume that I missed those lectures intentionally because I didn't. I had to go home during my second semester because of personal family issues, thus I was unable to attend a majority of the late lectures for one of my modules. I am not proud of it however, it was out of my control. I never take my education for granted, especially when I am pay over 3k per year for my degree.
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    (Original post by joey11223)
    Percentages are much better IMO. Sadly we're changing what appears to be a halfway house between percentages and the letter system. It's a little more accurate then just five letters, but not as much as percentages were. We're basically getting given some sort of letter or code which can represent..

    Low third, high third, low 2:2, high 2:2, low 2:1, high 2:1, 1st.
    (Original post by Mr. Tizzy XII)
    I don't understand why you're given 'Grades'? We're just given percentages. For my course you had to simply get 40%+ in each module to pass, and if at the end of the year you had failed a module you could either - get a deferred pass (usually if >35%, only one or two modules failed, and the other modules had decent passes), or you'd resit the failed module next year. Or if you'd failed a few and your other modules were poor, you might have to retake the year.
    Do the first year grades show up on your degree scriptures? I am pleased with my A, B, and C grades. The D is not brilliant and the E is terrible (because I failed it.) What do you think of my situation?
    I remember someone who had a simlar grading system to mine on TSR and she told me that it works out to something like this:

    A- 1st (70%)
    B- 2:1 (60%)
    C- 2:2 (50%)
    D- 3rd (40%)
    E- fail

    Though I do not know how accurate this is, it does kind of explain my failed E though.
    Last edited by pinda.college; 28-05-2012 at 17:56.
  13. pinda.college's Avatar
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    Grade Performance Result
    A Outstanding/Excellent Pass
    B Very good Pass
    C Good Pass
    D Satisfactory Pass
    #E Pass by compensation Pass
    E Compensatable Fail Defer (if first attempt) Fail (if following a second attempt)
    F Uncompensatable Fail Defer (if first attempt) Fail (if following a second attempt)
    Just found this on my university website, the module I got an E in is my first attempt at it. Does this mean I 'pass by compensation' (is this if my other grades are good they will allow it?) I don't understand this entirely, what's the difference between compensation and defer?

    My marking changes in the final year to this by the way:
    A16

    A15

    A14
    Outstanding/Excellent
    Pass (First Class)

    B13

    B12

    B11
    Very good


    Pass (Upper second class or 2:1)



    C10

    C9

    C8
    Good


    Pass (Lower Second class or 2:2)



    D7

    D6

    D5
    Satisfactory


    Pass (Third class)

  14. Rags's Avatar
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    (Original post by pinda.college)
    Do the first year grades show up on your degree scriptures? I am pleased with my A, B, and C grades. The D is not brilliant and the E is terrible (because I failed it.) What do you think of my situation?
    I remember someone who had a simlar grading system to mine on TSR and she told me that it works out to something like this:

    A- 1st (70%)
    B- 2:1 (60%)
    C- 2:2 (50%)
    D- 3rd (40%)
    E- fail

    Though I do not know how accurate this is, it does kind of explain my failed E though.
    My uni has the same grading system as yours and that is how it works out classification wise.

    It depends on your uni, but at mine if you pass 100 credits at level 4 and have achieved at least a grade of F+ in the last 20 then the fail is condoned and you can pass on to the next level... but to get Honours you do need a total of 360 so I think you'll still need to pass the module at some point. It would be a good idea to talk to a lecturer about this tbh as they'll know more about the outcome of your situation than we will.
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    (Original post by Rags)
    My uni has the same grading system as yours and that is how it works out classification wise.

    It depends on your uni, but at mine if you pass 100 credits at level 4 and have achieved at least a grade of F+ in the last 20 then the fail is condoned and you can pass on to the next level... but to get Honours you do need a total of 360 so I think you'll still need to pass the module at some point. It would be a good idea to talk to a lecturer about this tbh as they'll know more about the outcome of your situation than we will.
    It's reassuring to know someone else has the same grading system So those percentages I said are right? When you say level 4 do you mean the second year and what do you mean by 'ast 20'? Does your university have a similar view for first year students going onto their second year? (as in 100 credits + a fail is allowed to progress.) Also I thought it was second and third year modules that count towards obtaining an honours:confused:
    Last edited by pinda.college; 28-05-2012 at 19:20.
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    Yes
  17. Rags's Avatar
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    (Original post by pinda.college)
    It's reassuring to know someone else has the same grading system So those percentages I said are right? When you say level 4 do you mean the second year and what do you mean by 'ast 20'? Does your university have a similar view for first year students going onto their second year? (as in 100 credits + a fail is allowed to progress.) Also I thought it was second and third year modules that count towards obtaining an honours:confused:
    Yeah the percentages are right, unless your university has a different way to do it. Level 4 is year 1 which I presumed is what your results are for, and the last 20 means the 20 credits you failed in. So at my university so long as you've passed all but one first year module, and the one you failed in has at least a F+ then you go onto second year.

    It is second and third year modules that count towards the final classification usually, however normally you also have to attain a certain amount of overall credits I believe.. at mine you need 360 credits to gain a degree with honours otherwise you get an ordinary degree I think, so that means you need to pass all modules... however, I'm not sure if a condoned pass would mean you gain those credits or not so you'd be best to check with someone at your uni who knows.
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    Re: Have I ****ed up?
    (Original post by pinda.college)
    I have just been told that you need about 40% in the first year to pass, but it doesn't count towards your final degree classification:s

    Is this true?
    i believe it depends on your uni/course but i could be mistaken
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    (Original post by joey11223)
    Percentages are much better IMO. Sadly we're changing what appears to be a halfway house between percentages and the letter system. It's a little more accurate then just five letters, but not as much as percentages were. We're basically getting given some sort of letter or code which can represent..

    Low third, high third, low 2:2, high 2:2, low 2:1, high 2:1, 1st.
    Mmm, not sure there's any worthwhile distinction between 68% and 69%. Effectively 69% becomes a B1 and 70% requires something significantly better.
  20. yothi5's Avatar
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    Goodness sake OP. Ask if you need to resit/email relevant person. No good asking TSR!
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