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  1. NB_ide's Avatar
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    Men and women are equal
    any questions?
  2. No Man's Avatar
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    Except physically.
  3. NB_ide's Avatar
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by No Man)
    Except physically.

    uh, no. They are equal physically. Just different.
  4. 117r's Avatar
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by NB_ide)
    uh, no. They are equal physically. Just different.
    I'm not sure you understand what equal means...
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by No Man)
    Except physically.
    And indeed, on average, mentally.

    On average.
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by NB_ide)
    any questions?
    Why do women lack men's testosterone levels?
  7. Xotol's Avatar
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by NB_ide)
    uh, no. They are equal physically. Just different.
    I remember this from somewhere...

    "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" :rolleyes:

    Not that I necessarily disagree. Socially, politically and economically, males and females should definitely be treated equally. However, the average male is physically stronger than the average female (statistically and biologically). Not to say that this means males are better than females, but there are obviously some genetic differences between the two - on average.
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    I find mind-numbingly pressing the 'equality' button a bit pointless.

    Inb4 someone cries sexism, I'm not stating that women are of a lower class to men, or that they deserve fewer rights. I'm stating that understanding the differences between men and women holds the key to striking the appropriate contemporary balance between the sexes and shifting discourse away from perpetually never ending discussion of events that happened more than 60 years ago.

    I will point out that despite what many believe, the media isn't helping. Instead of trying to address the horrifically imbalanced relationship that appearance places on female self-value, we have Gok Wan telling the nation that all women need to do to assert their sense of self is "ditch those frumpy dresses and cinch in the waist".

    What I'd like to see more of is gender balance. It seems the only way women can assert their sense of equality with men is through their vaginas in a sex-and-the-city-esque daze. Procuring gender balance however, can't just be achieved by focusing solely on women. It needs to come from acknowledging that men who don't aspire to some misaligned Jason Statham-ish caricature aren't any less masculine, and women who choose to study computer science aren't any less feminine.

    Those are my two cents anyway :dontknow:
    Last edited by jumpingjesusholycow; 28-05-2012 at 23:25.
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by NB_ide)
    any questions?
    in the olympics why are there men and womans races why not mixed?
    because the women would lose
    men are differant from woman in more ways then they are similar
    this does not mean that they are better just differant
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by NB_ide)
    uh, no. They are equal physically. Just different.
    If they are different physically they are not equal physically.

    The numbers 7 and 4 are both numbers, despite being different, but are they equal? No.
    Last edited by No Man; 29-05-2012 at 16:38.
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by NB_ide)
    any questions?
    Why does my cat's breath smell like cat food?
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    I appreciate the sentiment, and I think for all intents and purposes we should be seen as equal because there is so much variation withing genders, and we should all have equal opportunities

    However, no - men and women are clearly different. It's hard to tell how much is societal and how much genetic, but even speaking as someone who was something of a tomboy I'd say that boys generally have different ways of thinking and different physical attributes.

    Then again, as I said originally, this is across an entire gender. Individuals should simply be judged on their individual merits.
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    Why have men suddenly become the spokespersons for equality topics?

    You must be seriously whipped or something mate.
  14. Aaron_xyz's Avatar
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    I guess its just a big statistical anomaly that women have on average higher body fat then men then
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    Shall we just affix the title with 'in ethical terms' to get rid of all you damn pedants?
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Shall we just affix the title with 'in ethical terms' to get rid of all you damn pedants?
    No, because, with the following statement...

    (Original post by NB_ide)
    uh, no. They are equal physically. Just different.
    ...the OP is clearly in need of a few pedants because he hasn't got a sodding clue how to present a coherent argument.
  17. tommm's Avatar
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    The statement depends on your definition of "equal", and therefore isn't a very good one.
  18. TheDefiniteArticle's Avatar
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    (Original post by Drewski)
    No, because, with the following statement...



    ...the OP is clearly in need of a few pedants because he hasn't got a sodding clue how to present a coherent argument.
    OP's argument is fine, his knowledge of the English language is what's lacking IMO.

    I suppose that that impacts upon the coherency element though...
  19. TieMeUp's Avatar
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    It doesn't matter either way; for the purposes of the law, they *are* equal.
  20. manchesterunited15's Avatar
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    Re: Men and women are equal
    Yes they should have equal rights, and in most aspects they're equal, but quite clearly men are better physically: On average they are stronger, faster, taller, bigger.
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