[IAmTheWumAndOnly]

So I was thinking and I came to the conclusion that we should have never given the countries we took over back. Without us, they're nothing and we need to disperse our population.

So we should invade countries if needs be (obviously peaceful takeover is better) regardless of NATO, take over some more land and build missile centres there for defence and help the population whilst joining forces with the natives. If these countries just rolled over and came under British rule it would help us and it would help them become better off.

Im sick of seeing 'Aid needed in Africa due to starvation'. WHY DONT WE JUST MAKE AFRICA A PART OF BRITAIN and look after our people? Its a much better resolution.

Africans would obviously want to keep their identity so why not call them the African Isles of the United Kingdom or something? Good idea. Indeed it is.

Lets join as one big massive United Kingdom and give the Africans some ****ing Maccies. They deserve it.

[Steevee]

Well we're at it, let's grab India back

I see no flaws in this plan at all

[xxm]

Ignorance is bliss.

[IndianHunter]

Steevee, In my home town of Bangladesh, it you say that, you get head chopped off by local gang. They might be on internet now. Be warned

[IAmTheWumAndOnly]

(Original post by xxm)
Ignorance is bliss.

So you don't want to help Africa and give them McDonalds. What a racist.

[callum9999]

While "invading" them is ridiculous, it is along the lines of a plan I would love to see.

I can't be bothered to explain it all now but it would basically involve the richest countries "adopting" the poorest countries, and working together to bring the poorer one up to a decent level of development.

The major (and fatal!) downside being it's expensive - and although people do generally want to help stop starvation, they don't actually care that much.

[That Bearded Man]

Why doesn't the UK taxpayer for Africa as well? Jeeeesus I can't think why?

[maghreblover]

(Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
So you don't want to help Africa and give them McDonalds. What a racist.

We have our own version of McDonalds in Nigeria. Its called MrBiggs. True story. http://www.mrbiggsonline.com/

We also have KFC, and our own version of it- called Chicken Republic. For real. http://www.chicken-republic.com/

But most of all, we don't want to be a part of Britain. There may be **** things about Nigeria, but there are also good things. And in the face of silly suggestions like yours, I think you'll find that the 158 million+ population of Nigeria are largely patriotic.

Yes, Nigeria isn't the whole of Africa, but I think I speak on behalf of the other 52 countries when I say that your suggestion is an irrational one.

[IAmTheWumAndOnly]

(Original post by maghreblover)
We have our own version of McDonalds in Nigeria. Its called MrBiggs. True story. http://www.mrbiggsonline.com/

We also have KFC, and our own version of it- called Chicken Republic. For real. http://www.chicken-republic.com/

But most of all, we don't want to be a part of Britain. There may be **** things about Nigeria, but there are also good things. And in the face of silly suggestions like yours, I think you'll find that the 158 million+ population of Nigeria are largely patriotic.

Yes, Nigeria isn't the whole of Africa, but I think I speak on behalf of the other 52 countries when I say that your suggestion is an irrational one.

Nigeria is a well of part of Africa. A lot of it is in a rut. Think of other places Nigeria doesn't help one bit even though it can yet leaves it to countries like America and Britain to help. Stop thinking about Nigeria and look at the bigger picture. A lot of Africa is struggling. Yes you may have your 'own version' of McDonalds but thats not McDonalds is it? Its a company that uses the same colours and sells similar products. Its like trying to pass off a river island t shirt for a top man t shirt. Similar but not quite the same thing.

[zedeneye1]

(Original post by maghreblover)
We have our own version of McDonalds in Nigeria. Its called MrBiggs. True story. http://www.mrbiggsonline.com/

We also have KFC, and our own version of it- called Chicken Republic. For real. http://www.chicken-republic.com/

But most of all, we don't want to be a part of Britain. There may be **** things about Nigeria, but there are also good things. And in the face of silly suggestions like yours, I think you'll find that the 158 million+ population of Nigeria are largely patriotic.

Yes, Nigeria isn't the whole of Africa, but I think I speak on behalf of the other 52 countries when I say that your suggestion is an irrational one.

dont bother..the topic poster is a troll......

nigeria is pretty advanced regardless if it has mcdonalds or not...its just the corrupt politics that ruins everything...

Also, the topic poster doesnt realize that it was foreign intervention(s) centuries ago that had led these countries into such a state today....And even back then things werent good for the native africans.....

[IAmTheWumAndOnly]

(Original post by zedeneye1)
dont bother..the topic poster is a troll......

nigeria is pretty advanced regardless if it has mcdonalds or not...its just the corrupt politics that ruins everything...

Also, the topic poster doesnt realize that it was foreign intervention(s) centuries ago that had led these countries into such a state today....And even back then things werent good for the native africans.....

WHICH IS WHY WE SHOULD MAKE THEM PART OF OUR UNITED KINGDOM AND HELP THEM.

Why are people so selfish and against helping people and growing our Kingdom?

[zedeneye1]

(Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
Nigeria is a well of part of Africa. A lot of it is in a rut. Think of other places Nigeria doesn't help one bit even though it can yet leaves it to countries like America and Britain to help. Stop thinking about Nigeria and look at the bigger picture. A lot of Africa is struggling. Yes you may have your 'own version' of McDonalds but thats not McDonalds is it? Its a company that uses the same colours and sells similar products. Its like trying to pass off a river island t shirt for a top man t shirt. Similar but not quite the same thing.

sir are u even in your senses?

McDonald's = progress ??

you could have argued about them not having good infrastructure etc, highways, railways, airports, sea ports,dry ports etc....but instead you say that they have no McDonald's...

If they dont have mcdonalds, from economic point of view its a good thing, since all the profits from these huge chains would now probably stay in nigeria instead of moving abroad in case of mcdonalds...

[zedeneye1]

(Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
WHICH IS WHY WE SHOULD MAKE THEM PART OF OUR UNITED KINGDOM AND HELP THEM.

Why are people so selfish and against helping people and growing our Kingdom?

why didnt the europe join the soviet union or why doesnt it today join a communist union with the chinese+N.Korea+venezuela, etc ?
Why doesnt the UK become a full member of european union and help greece etc?

dont you think the UK itself is extremely selfish now?

[zedeneye1]

Also, taking over is not win/win. The reason behind that is that the one taking over is the one that makes the most money out of it. Look at the example of India where the british stole huge amount of wealth and resources. So greedy were they that many famines took place in India which was otherwise a fertile land and could more than just support itself...how is that win/win ?
Offcourse they built railways and roads and what not......but what could the indians do with that when they werent getting enough to eat and were being shot at when they protested?

[zedeneye1]

You could have talked about an economic union or something, which would have made more sense...

[maghreblover]

(Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
Nigeria is a well of part of Africa. A lot of it is in a rut. Think of other places Nigeria doesn't help one bit even though it can yet leaves it to countries like America and Britain to help. Stop thinking about Nigeria and look at the bigger picture. A lot of Africa is struggling. Yes you may have your 'own version' of McDonalds but thats not McDonalds is it? Its a company that uses the same colours and sells similar products. Its like trying to pass off a river island t shirt for a top man t shirt. Similar but not quite the same thing.

The fact that Nigeria is the only country I mentioned doesn't mean it is the only part of Africa that is doing fairly well. Countries like Ghana, Kenya, South Africa, Angola, Botswana, etc are all doing pretty well.

There are parts of Europe that are in pretty poor shape right now. By your logic, then, the US can just as well invade and colonise the whole of Europe just because Greece is on the brink of an economic disaster, no?

The first thing you need to realise is that Africa is a continent, 53 countries and at least three times the size of Europe. The countries within it vary, just like in Europe. Some are better off, some are worse off. Making ignorant generalisations about the entire continent that undermines the countries that are doing quite well is rather stupid.

If you knew how to work Google, you would also realise that Nigeria is a donor and has given both monetary and military aid to numerous African countries, and has even given monetary aid to countries like Pakistan. We don't leave it to other people to help when we can help. Obviously, we can't give aid in the same proportion as developed countries- clearly because we are still a developing country and have a significantly lower GDP. At the same time, our GDP is growing at a rate that most developed countries would be ecstatic to have right now, and thus our ability to give aid is increasing- as are our donations.

But all of this assumes that 'aid' is what Africa needs. At the end of the day, it is the stupid policies of developed regions such as the EU dumping in Africa under the canopy of aid that suffocates the growing economies and perpetuates the state that many African countries are in. Rather than aid, it may be a better idea to promote trade by removing trade barriers and thus encouraging the growth of African economies. On this front, Nigeria is very much playing their part as a key member of organisations like ECOWAS.

And yes, Mr Biggs is not McDonalds, but it is a fast food restaurant (amongst countless others in the country, I should say) which has combined both Western dishes with healthier traditional cuisines to provide what the Nigerian consumers demand. Basically, we have a better option that is home-grown and suits us better. So no, we still don't want your McDonalds and the consequent obesity that has blighted your country.

[zedeneye1]

(Original post by maghreblover)
The fact that Nigeria is the only country I mentioned doesn't mean it is the only part of Africa that is doing fairly well. Countries like Ghana, Kenya, South Africa, Angola, Botswana, etc are all doing pretty well.

There are parts of Europe that are in pretty poor shape right now. By your logic, then, the US can just as well invade and colonise the whole of Europe just because Greece is on the brink of an economic disaster, no?

The first thing you need to realise is that Africa is a continent, 53 countries and at least three times the size of Europe. The countries within it vary, just like in Europe. Some are better off, some are worse off. Making ignorant generalisations about the entire continent that undermines the countries that are doing quite well is rather stupid.

If you knew how to work Google, you would also realise that Nigeria is a donor and has given both monetary and military aid to numerous African countries, and has even given monetary aid to countries like Pakistan. We don't leave it to other people to help when we can help. Obviously, we can't give aid in the same proportion as developed countries- clearly because we are still a developing country and have a significantly lower GDP. At the same time, our GDP is growing at a rate that most developed countries would be ecstatic to have right now, and thus our ability to give aid is increasing- as are our donations.

But all of this assumes that 'aid' is what Africa needs. At the end of the day, it is the stupid policies of developed regions such as the EU dumping in Africa under the canopy of aid that suffocates the growing economies and perpetuates the state that many African countries are in. Rather than aid, it may be a better idea to promote trade by removing trade barriers and thus encouraging the growth of African economies. On this front, Nigeria is very much playing their part as a key member of organisations like ECOWAS.

And yes, Mr Biggs is not McDonalds, but it is a fast food restaurant (amongst countless others in the country, I should say) which has combined both Western dishes with healthier traditional cuisines to provide what the Nigerian consumers demand. Basically, we have a better option that is home-grown and suits us better. So no, we still don't want your McDonalds and the consequent obesity that has blighted your country.

thats impossible, Pakistan has both mcdonalds AND kfc. It even has hardee's burger and so many other famous brands, hence using the poster's logic I have come to the conclusion that it is a developed country that does not need aid.

Jokes apart, most of these aids which go from one developing country to another are given in case of disasters usually...

[maghreblover]

(Original post by zedeneye1)
thats impossible, Pakistan has both mcdonalds AND kfc. It even has hardee's burger and so many other famous brands, hence using the poster's logic I have come to the conclusion that it is a developed country that does not need aid.

Jokes apart, most of these aids which go from one developing country to another are given in case of disasters usually...

Yes, they are usually given in case of disasters. And Nigeria did give aid to Pakistan after the floods, as well as to countries like Sierra Leone during civil unrest. However, Nigeria's donor profile is not just limited to humanitarian aid and you can read more about this here:

http://www.norrag.org/issues/article...4c5e1376e9018c

[zedeneye1]

(Original post by maghreblover)
Yes, they are usually given in case of disasters. And Nigeria did give aid to Pakistan after the floods, as well as to countries like Sierra Leone during civil unrest. However, Nigeria's donor profile is not just limited to humanitarian aid and you can read more about this here:

http://www.norrag.org/issues/article...4c5e1376e9018c

okay good...but toooo much reading... so i take ur word for it.

[zedeneye1]

@topic poster : I suggest you please take economics and maybe politics at A levels. then you'll learn alot of different things in this respect. Also take some time and go to libraries etc to read some economic/political history. You seem to have interest in these things.