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  1. PinkMobilePhone's Avatar
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
    This what my grandfather says and I can't help but agree with him. I reckon a child deserves a good beating if they act badly.

    Some of the stuff I see in school these days is disgusting. Having left a few years ago I would be happy if they had brought this back in my time. The amount of times I wanted to jump up and rip a piece of metal off my table and crack a chav in my head I can't even count on 2 hands. Schools have no control over these animals < thats exactly what they are btw.

    Should teachers be allowed to beat up children? I definitely agree they should to instil some discipline back in this world.

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    BEATING? No, absolutely not.

    Nobody should ever beat a child, that's horrific.

    Now there's a huge difference between beating up a child, and giving them a swift smack. I give my kids a smack on the butt if they have been really naughty, but I would never beat them up, that would be abhorrent.

    Moving onto the actual subject of corporal punishment, no I don't think teachers should be allowed to smack a child. I'll be honest, if somebody else laid a finger on my kids without my consent I would be livid. So often, teachers get it wrong and punish the wrong child.
    My daughter was being verbally picked on and physically kicked in the legs by a girl in her class, and despite repeatedly telling the teacher (and me having gone to the teacher) to try and sort it out, it was still continuing. Finally after about 6 months of it happening, my daughter snapped and told the girl to **** off (bearing in mind my daughter never swears normally). As a result she got sent to the office to see the headmaster, whilst the other girl again went unpunished.
    If corporal punishment had've been in place, I have no doubt that my daughter would have been subjected to it for the swearing, which is so wrong considering the circumstances.

    I'm not adverse to a child getting a smack if they deserve it, but I don't trust teachers to pay enough attention to what is going on in order to use corporal punishment fairly.
  2. Elzie's Avatar
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    It's not as black and white as "Children misbehave therefore they must be punished". Most children misbehave because they want attention or they're having problems at home. Hell, they might already be beaten at home and take out their anger at school where they can with no consequences. Beating them would just take away their safety even more.

    Instead of beating them, just give them support and help! Find out why! Beating them will make the problem far worse. My school offers anger management. Whenever someone is feeling aggressive and wants to lash out, they can go to a room and just hit things with a foam bat. They just need to learn to control and displace their anger. They do not need to be beaten.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
    This what my grandfather says and I can't help but agree with him. I reckon a child deserves a good beating if they act badly.

    Some of the stuff I see in school these days is disgusting. Having left a few years ago I would be happy if they had brought this back in my time. The amount of times I wanted to jump up and rip a piece of metal off my table and crack a chav in my head I can't even count on 2 hands. Schools have no control over these animals < thats exactly what they are btw.

    Should teachers be allowed to beat up children? I definitely agree they should to instil some discipline back in this world.

    :xmasgrin:
    One way to teach kids how to beat up their partners later on in life, see evidence.

    Is that what you want? It can teach some people that violence is a good controlling measure and will use it later upon life against a weaker person.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
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    you say beating a child will 'prepare' them for later life yet when in any situation is it appropriate for one adult to beat another adult for misbehaving? in the work place if an employee misbehaved they will simply get a verbal or written warning not a beating. Some children simply need steering in the right direction, when i was in year 7/8/9 i went through a bit of a rough patch because when your growing up in your teenage years things can get confusing and scary and sometimes acting out is a way as showing your struggling. With some good verbal disciplining and support from teachers and parents i eventually realised the wrongs of my ways and modified my behaviour. I know for a fact that if i had got beatings for my behaviour then i would still be on that wrong path because it would seem that teachers couldn't be bothered to support and reach out and a beating is just quick and easy for them. As my mum says school is not just academic education its education for life and for me that would include teaching children that bad behaviour is unacceptable however but it would also be about guiding,supporting and helping students out with those all too familiar teenage years that consist of a lot of emotions and confusing times. Like I said I don't know any other institution (apart from the armed forces/military) where beating is an acceptable form of punishment.


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    Presumably if you are a professional boxer!!! Wait a minute... even in boxing Chisora and Haye have had their boxing licence withdrawn for beating up each other
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    Yes good idea, we should teach children that violence is the answer to everything. :lolwut:

    Teach them if people disobey you, it is okay to beat them into submission. It's what all violent dictators were taught as kids.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    Beating - no, that's too extreme.
    A smack in front of the class/school - fine, it doesn't hurt too much and it's the humiliation rather than the pain which will cause a change in behaviour.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
    This what my grandfather says and I can't help but agree with him. I reckon a child deserves a good beating if they act badly.

    Some of the stuff I see in school these days is disgusting. Having left a few years ago I would be happy if they had brought this back in my time. The amount of times I wanted to jump up and rip a piece of metal off my table and crack a chav in my head I can't even count on 2 hands. Schools have no control over these animals < thats exactly what they are btw.

    Should teachers be allowed to beat up children? I definitely agree they should to instil some discipline back in this world.

    :xmasgrin:
    If you can't teach a child to stay in line without the threat of a stick they will grow up with the same mentality and soon enough we will be living under a similar rule.

    /thread.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    I could have done with a few beatings at school, tbh. I would support that sort of thing.

    It makes messing around even more exciting, as well.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    Beating kids is not going to address why they're misbehaving, so they'll still misbehave. All it will achieve is to make the teacher the enemy, although I suppose uniting against an oppressive teacher could be good for their social skills.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by PinkMobilePhone)
    BEATING? No, absolutely not.

    Nobody should ever beat a child, that's horrific.

    Now there's a huge difference between beating up a child, and giving them a swift smack. I give my kids a smack on the butt if they have been really naughty, but I would never beat them up, that would be abhorrent.

    Moving onto the actual subject of corporal punishment, no I don't think teachers should be allowed to smack a child. I'll be honest, if somebody else laid a finger on my kids without my consent I would be livid. So often, teachers get it wrong and punish the wrong child.
    My daughter was being verbally picked on and physically kicked in the legs by a girl in her class, and despite repeatedly telling the teacher (and me having gone to the teacher) to try and sort it out, it was still continuing. Finally after about 6 months of it happening, my daughter snapped and told the girl to **** off (bearing in mind my daughter never swears normally). As a result she got sent to the office to see the headmaster, whilst the other girl again went unpunished.
    If corporal punishment had've been in place, I have no doubt that my daughter would have been subjected to it for the swearing, which is so wrong considering the circumstances.

    I'm not adverse to a child getting a smack if they deserve it, but I don't trust teachers to pay enough attention to what is going on in order to use corporal punishment fairly.
    That's totally unfair :mad:

    Smack the headmaster in the bump :sexface: lol.

    But on topic, what happened? Did you confront the teacher/headmaster? I would. Grrr... at them
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
    This what my grandfather says and I can't help but agree with him. I reckon a child deserves a good beating if they act badly.

    Some of the stuff I see in school these days is disgusting. Having left a few years ago I would be happy if they had brought this back in my time. The amount of times I wanted to jump up and rip a piece of metal off my table and crack a chav in my head I can't even count on 2 hands. Schools have no control over these animals < thats exactly what they are btw.

    Should teachers be allowed to beat up children? I definitely agree they should to instil some discipline back in this world.

    :xmasgrin:
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
    Whats wrong with beating children though? it toughens them up for later in life and gets them ready for the real world where they have to fend for themselves.
    How does it prepare you for the real world and later life? If someone hits you as an adult you call the police and they end up being arrested and subsequently prosecuted for assault.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    Some of the bullies at my primary school deserved a good beating
    The pricks received plenty of "support and help" but that didn't change them a bit.
    Last edited by Darkphilosopher; 30-05-2012 at 13:17.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by kka25)
    That's totally unfair :mad:

    Smack the headmaster in the bump :sexface: lol.

    But on topic, what happened? Did you confront the teacher/headmaster? I would. Grrr... at them
    They're both in the next class up now, and it was still ongoing for a while but I THINK it's stopped now as I've had yet another word with her teacher and for about the past 2 weeks my daughter hasn't complained about it.

    Does my bloody head in!
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by PinkMobilePhone)
    They're both in the next class up now, and it was still ongoing for a while but I THINK it's stopped now as I've had yet another word with her teacher and for about the past 2 weeks my daughter hasn't complained about it.

    Does my bloody head in!
    Owh, I know how you feel! It must be worrying really :/

    Hurm... did you tell the teacher that you might want to call the parents up?
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by PinkMobilePhone)
    They're both in the next class up now, and it was still ongoing for a while but I THINK it's stopped now as I've had yet another word with her teacher and for about the past 2 weeks my daughter hasn't complained about it.

    Does my bloody head in!
    Is that incident by any chance anything to do with why your LO was having those issues and partly being afraid of dandelions?

    I think you might want to keep an eye on that as these are the small signs that some other form of bullying might be going on. If it is indeed the case such things can lead to lots of low self esteem issues later in life.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
    Proof beating children won't sort out the problem? got any statistics to back up your argument.

    Discipline is the answer and if it isn't then why is it still a tactic the army use to this very day?
    got any stats to back up your argument?

    I see where your coming from, but I think literally 'beating' kids up is wrong because if you beat someone up in the street, would you not get done for assult? Teachers need some rights as well because I've seen chavs shout horrible things at teachers so many times when what the teacher is saying is in their (the student's) best intrests. Some disipline is needed, but not literally beating them up but perhaps I've taken what you meant incrrectly, my view on beating up is blood, bruising etc. and if that is the case then yeh, I think that's not the best way of going about it.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by najinaji)
    Also, a lot of the kids who misbehave at school and elsewhere do usually get beatings from their parents at home. It obviously doesn't work.
    This. I went to an inner-London state school where misbehaving was rife and most of us used to joke about getting beatings at home and they were still pretty disruptive pupils.
    Also, a good proportion of them where pretty big and could **** up many teachers and some of them did and had gang connections so the teachers life would be in danger if they did hit them.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    I don't agree with schools being allowed to beat children. It's wrong on so many levels and the only way you could fully understand this is if this sort of discipline was practised on you. Plus this type of discipline well be open to abuse and if it works it is due to installing fear in the child.

    Something must be done but allowing teachers to beat students is not the solution.
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    Re: Schools should be allowed to beat children who misbehave
    (Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly)
    Whats wrong with beating children though? it toughens them up for later in life and gets them ready for the real world where they have to fend for themselves.
    As a matter of interest, how does beating someone as punishment teach them to fend for themselves? As they effectively take the punishment and can't fight/answer back...

    Toughen up I'd be inclined to agree slightly though I'll admit.

    Overall though I'm not for beating/corporal punishment to be honest... I just dont think violence is the way to do things, and when people say things like "it toughens them up" etc, that to me translates into the violence perpetuating down generations (even if it's not an intended consequence) as people think that because it happened to them when they were young, there's nothing wrong with it now, so it just carries on...

    However, oddly enough, I'm not against smacking for some reason - maybe because it happened to me I suppose... but even then I think it should only ever be done by parents, and only in places where you're not going to cause an injury (so for e.g. smacking the head is not on in my book)...
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