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Original post by barnetbuzzzz
Different people have different biologies, but mostly, guys find slim girls attractive.
Lack of fat just looks better than fat. There's nothing socialised about that.
Lack of fat just looks better than fat. There's nothing socialised about that.
Yes they do, but what we find attractive is not determined by biology (other than the gender with which we choose to have relations).
What we find attractive is psychological. Psychology is overwhelmingly, if not totally, influenced by socialisation.
"Lack of fat just looks better than fat. There's nothing socialised about that."
You can continue to bleat this in spite of contrary evidence if you want, but you clearly can't provide any evidence to support this view beyond what you think is the case.
Why does a lack of fat look better than fat? Why does it? You can't just repeatedly say "but it does" because that's not a reason, that just you asserting your point again. Shouting louder proves nothing.
The only observable fact here is that what people think of other people is entirely socialised. People from Eastern Europe find eastern europeans most attractive. Western Europeans find western europeans most attractive. Black people find other black people more attractive than white people and so on so forth throughout all ethnicities. Why is there such a wide disparity in what they consider attractive? Is it biology suddenly stopping and changing at national borders? No it's not. Its a clear example of how a change in society and culture changes attitudes.
Original post by mimx
Being 'in Amnesty' is probably an indicator of pretentiousness and unbearableness so you can keep her.
Original post by The Patriot
Yes they do, but what we find attractive is not determined by biology (other than the gender with which we choose to have relations).
What we find attractive is psychological. Psychology is overwhelmingly, if not totally, influenced by socialisation.
"Lack of fat just looks better than fat. There's nothing socialised about that."
You can continue to bleat this in spite of contrary evidence if you want, but you clearly can't provide any evidence to support this view beyond what you think is the case.
Why does a lack of fat look better than fat? Why does it? You can't just repeatedly say "but it does" because that's not a reason, that just you asserting your point again. Shouting louder proves nothing.
The only observable fact here is that what people think of other people is entirely socialised. People from Eastern Europe find eastern europeans most attractive. Western Europeans find western europeans most attractive. Black people find other black people more attractive than white people and so on so forth throughout all ethnicities. Why is there such a wide disparity in what they consider attractive? Is it biology suddenly stopping and changing at national borders? No it's not. Its a clear example of how a change in society and culture changes attitudes.
What we find attractive is psychological. Psychology is overwhelmingly, if not totally, influenced by socialisation.
"Lack of fat just looks better than fat. There's nothing socialised about that."
You can continue to bleat this in spite of contrary evidence if you want, but you clearly can't provide any evidence to support this view beyond what you think is the case.
Why does a lack of fat look better than fat? Why does it? You can't just repeatedly say "but it does" because that's not a reason, that just you asserting your point again. Shouting louder proves nothing.
The only observable fact here is that what people think of other people is entirely socialised. People from Eastern Europe find eastern europeans most attractive. Western Europeans find western europeans most attractive. Black people find other black people more attractive than white people and so on so forth throughout all ethnicities. Why is there such a wide disparity in what they consider attractive? Is it biology suddenly stopping and changing at national borders? No it's not. Its a clear example of how a change in society and culture changes attitudes.
So what exactly is it about society that makes me find slim girls attractive?
Don't accuse me of shouting louder when you keep re-asserting your point over and over again when you have nothing to back your point up.
Original post by alexs2602
And you're one of the aforementioned asses I was going on about.
Have you heard of emotional satisfaction? Try getting that from sex and looks, I double dare you.
Have you heard of emotional satisfaction? Try getting that from sex and looks, I double dare you.
I've got emotional satisfaction from hot girls, yes. Jealous are we?
I don't find their personality makes any real difference in bed, that's when looks really come into play. But during non-sexual activities I've had plenty of emotional satisfaction from hot girls.
Original post by mimx
Being 'in Amnesty' is probably an indicator of pretentiousness and unbearableness so you can keep her.
You're dumb. You don't even know the person and you're judging them. Generally I couldn't give a flying **** about Amnesty. It's the fact she cares so much for other people that I find attractive. Most people such as yourself are indifferent, just don't care.
Original post by barnetbuzzzz
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18260133
Words can't even begin to describe how many things are wrong with this report.
So basically it's just a bunch of women whining on about how it's not right that people are worried about their bodies etc. Well no, it is right.
We have far too many chubby people in this country who have no sense of class or style. It's important that we do everything we can to reduce this, not just for health reasons but because good-looking people generally have better lives than ugly people.
Good looking guys get girls. Good looking girls get guys. This is because guys like femininity and girls like masculinity. These are biological facts.
Yet we now have this brigade of idiots who go round telling people that things like education and ambition are more important, and that appearance doesn't matter. Of course, education is important and it's important that people aspire to be successful.
However, telling kids appearance doesn't matter is flat out lying.
If I had the choice between a size 8 beauty who was unemployed, and a size 24 whale who worked as a doctor, which am I going to choose. The size 8 beauty, of course. It's all very well having brains but nobody wants to be seen walking down the street with a whale.
To put it bluntly, anyone who has ever been to Paris (or Madrid, or Rome etc) will have observed just how much more healthy and stylish both men and women are over there. Compare that to the stream of lazy, piggish people you see walking around British cities.
Some of the report's other recommendations are so moronic they actually make me want to scream.
- More than 95% of people on diets regain the weight they lose
Woah, this rubbish is actually in a government report? Everybody has a diet. Your diet is what you eat. Advice to people: if you are overweight, get down the gym and eat less. That's all. If you can't be bothered, get liposuction. You don't need government reports telling you what to do.
- The need for mandatory body image and self-esteem lessons for children at primary and secondary school
How about teaching them to read and write?
- Requiring advertisers to run long-term campaigns that reflect consumer desire for "authenticity and diversity"
No, when I open up a magazine, I want to see normal women in the size 8-12 range. I don't want to see airbrushed anorexic zombies, nor do I want to see whales. Stop encouraging these perverse body images and tell people that they should be a sensible weight.
-Introducing screening for potential cosmetic surgery patients
Most cosmetic surgery is justified. Men like breasts, not puffy nipples. Stop discouraging women from making themselves look hot. Plus, this is damaging to the cosmetic surgery industry, so the economy gets into an even worse state.
-The possible amending of the Equality Act to include appearance-related discrimination
So now they want to take my freedom of speech away? If someone is fat, I'll tell them they're fat. Being fat is unhealthy and bad for the overall image of our society, and it's important that fat people lose weight.
Words can't even begin to describe how many things are wrong with this report.
So basically it's just a bunch of women whining on about how it's not right that people are worried about their bodies etc. Well no, it is right.
We have far too many chubby people in this country who have no sense of class or style. It's important that we do everything we can to reduce this, not just for health reasons but because good-looking people generally have better lives than ugly people.
Good looking guys get girls. Good looking girls get guys. This is because guys like femininity and girls like masculinity. These are biological facts.
Yet we now have this brigade of idiots who go round telling people that things like education and ambition are more important, and that appearance doesn't matter. Of course, education is important and it's important that people aspire to be successful.
However, telling kids appearance doesn't matter is flat out lying.
If I had the choice between a size 8 beauty who was unemployed, and a size 24 whale who worked as a doctor, which am I going to choose. The size 8 beauty, of course. It's all very well having brains but nobody wants to be seen walking down the street with a whale.
To put it bluntly, anyone who has ever been to Paris (or Madrid, or Rome etc) will have observed just how much more healthy and stylish both men and women are over there. Compare that to the stream of lazy, piggish people you see walking around British cities.
Some of the report's other recommendations are so moronic they actually make me want to scream.
- More than 95% of people on diets regain the weight they lose
Woah, this rubbish is actually in a government report? Everybody has a diet. Your diet is what you eat. Advice to people: if you are overweight, get down the gym and eat less. That's all. If you can't be bothered, get liposuction. You don't need government reports telling you what to do.
- The need for mandatory body image and self-esteem lessons for children at primary and secondary school
How about teaching them to read and write?
- Requiring advertisers to run long-term campaigns that reflect consumer desire for "authenticity and diversity"
No, when I open up a magazine, I want to see normal women in the size 8-12 range. I don't want to see airbrushed anorexic zombies, nor do I want to see whales. Stop encouraging these perverse body images and tell people that they should be a sensible weight.
-Introducing screening for potential cosmetic surgery patients
Most cosmetic surgery is justified. Men like breasts, not puffy nipples. Stop discouraging women from making themselves look hot. Plus, this is damaging to the cosmetic surgery industry, so the economy gets into an even worse state.
-The possible amending of the Equality Act to include appearance-related discrimination
So now they want to take my freedom of speech away? If someone is fat, I'll tell them they're fat. Being fat is unhealthy and bad for the overall image of our society, and it's important that fat people lose weight.
OP I don't agree entirely with your logic here but essentially, yes. People should take pride in their appearance.
Original post by barnetbuzzzz
I've got emotional satisfaction from hot girls, yes. Jealous are we?
I don't find their personality makes any real difference in bed, that's when looks really come into play. But during non-sexual activities I've had plenty of emotional satisfaction from hot girls.
I don't find their personality makes any real difference in bed, that's when looks really come into play. But during non-sexual activities I've had plenty of emotional satisfaction from hot girls.
Hardly. Makes you sound shallow, although your OP did that.
Riiiight. I've lost interest in you.
Original post by barnetbuzzzz
Oh yeeeesss, your personality! Yeeeessssss, you're in Amnesty! Yes! Yeeesss! Yeeeesssssss!
Nah, most guys find that looks turn them on sexually.
Nah, most guys find that looks turn them on sexually.
Exactly this.
Original post by rainbow.panda
This. Adele is a good example, she's not slim but she's gorgeous.
I would bang Adele but to describe her as gorgeous is just
.You seriously putting her on a par with someone like, say, Miranda Kerr?
Now she is gorgeous.
Original post by alexs2602
Hardly. Makes you sound shallow, although your OP did that.
Riiiight. I've lost interest in you.
Riiiight. I've lost interest in you.
See, the guy you quoted are the type of guys that will be judging me. I just cannot live with that kind of treatment.
Original post by alexs2602
You're dumb. You don't even know the person and you're judging them. Generally I couldn't give a flying **** about Amnesty. It's the fact she cares so much for other people that I find attractive. Most people such as yourself are indifferent, just don't care.
Well clearly because I'm not 'in amnesty' my hobbies include tossing cats in microwaves and eating babies. Hey wait a minute guy, you're being judgemental. Tut tut.
I'm sorry to say that I'm imagining you to be pretentious now as well.
Original post by barnetbuzzzz
I would bang Adele but to describe her as gorgeous is just .
You seriously putting her on a par with someone like, say, Miranda Kerr?
Now she is gorgeous.
.You seriously putting her on a par with someone like, say, Miranda Kerr?
Now she is gorgeous.
That's just my opinion. I think both are beautiful.
Skinny does not equal attractive.
Of course it's right for people to have a healthy lifestyle but for you're going on like size 16 is massive when
it's really not.
Looks don't last forever, remember that.
I'd much rather be with someone who might not look like a model but has a lovely personality than be with someone based more on the way they look.
Beauty is completely subjective.
Of course it's right for people to have a healthy lifestyle but for you're going on like size 16 is massive when
it's really not.
Looks don't last forever, remember that.
I'd much rather be with someone who might not look like a model but has a lovely personality than be with someone based more on the way they look.
Beauty is completely subjective.
Original post by im so academic
See, the guy you quoted are the type of guys that will be judging me. I just cannot live with that kind of treatment.
You only listen to what is convenient to your world view. You don't take on opinions that oppose them. Everything I say I believe, but does that matter to you? If you want to take on board with what I have to say I'll keep on talking. Otherwise I've got better things to be doing.
Don't put up with guys like him then, I don't. I ignore them. You'll meet other people. Non-judgemental people. Plenty exist.
Original post by mimx
Well clearly because I'm not 'in amnesty' my hobbies include tossing cats in microwaves and eating babies. Hey wait a minute guy, you're being judgemental. Tut tut.
I'm sorry to say that I'm imagining you to be pretentious now as well.
I'm sorry to say that I'm imagining you to be pretentious now as well.
Have you heard of the word 'indicate'? Tell me, what does it indicate if you support such an organisation? I would say that they care for people going through pain and suffering, people being unfairly treated. Something like that.
Original post by barnetbuzzzz
So what exactly is it about society that makes me find slim girls attractive?
Don't accuse me of shouting louder when you keep re-asserting your point over and over again when you have nothing to back your point up.
Don't accuse me of shouting louder when you keep re-asserting your point over and over again when you have nothing to back your point up.
My point is evidence by simple psychology, evident in everyone around us.
What makes you find slim girls attractive?
Ok try this...
When you were 3 did you find slim girls attractive? Or fat girls? Or probably (hopefully) neither?
When you open certain newspapers to page 3, are the girls with their tits out fat? or are they Slim? (Consider, before you argue "it's because they're more attractive than fat girls", remember that the media dictates so much to us. We have little choice). Also, ZOO, FHM, NUTS, Daily Sport, Loaded magazine, Mens Health. All media with hot attractive, slim people in it. How many with fat people in them? None.
- This point is harder to explain, so I have spoilered a longer explanation if you give a crap..
When you watch a movie, are the main actresses slim and hot? Or are they chubby? (The majority of films, not every single one admittedly).
Name 10 famous movie stars. I guarantee at least 8 or 9 if not all of the ones that come to your head first are slim/hunky.
Everywhere we turn, we are bombarded with countless examples of how slim is supposedly good and fat is bad. The reason for this? Once it gets a hold, there is money to be made in making fat people want to lose weight.
Our view of slim people as most attractive has demonstrably not always been the case. So any argument claiming biology supports the view of slim people as more attractive as fat people is clearly flawed as it was at one time, completely and utterly false.
Original post by alexs2602
Have you heard of the word 'indicate'? Tell me, what does it indicate if you support such an organisation? I would say that they care for people going through pain and suffering, people being unfairly treated. Something like that.
To me it indicates probable pretension and unbearableness. I thought I already said that.
I actually think that there's quite a big problem with the focus on size from the perspective of looks rather than health. If people worry about their size primarily because of their looks, you get some problems, including but not limited to:
- People are less concerned about gaining weight if they have a partner or aren't looking for one
- People are less concerned about gaining weight as they get older
- There's a backlash, along the lines of the pushing of 'curvy' women as attractive, which actually tries to change the standards of beauty and therefore removes the incentive to get smaller and therefore healthier
- Being a healthy weight becomes overly associated with vanity, instead of being accepted as simply good for you
There's nothing wrong with wanting to look better and doing things about your body shape to achieve this, but I don't believe it's helpful for us as a society to make size an issue of looks - we should all be talking about it as an issue of health. The great knock-on effect of this is that people usually look their best when they're at a weight that's healthy for their particular body type.
- People are less concerned about gaining weight if they have a partner or aren't looking for one
- People are less concerned about gaining weight as they get older
- There's a backlash, along the lines of the pushing of 'curvy' women as attractive, which actually tries to change the standards of beauty and therefore removes the incentive to get smaller and therefore healthier
- Being a healthy weight becomes overly associated with vanity, instead of being accepted as simply good for you
There's nothing wrong with wanting to look better and doing things about your body shape to achieve this, but I don't believe it's helpful for us as a society to make size an issue of looks - we should all be talking about it as an issue of health. The great knock-on effect of this is that people usually look their best when they're at a weight that's healthy for their particular body type.
Original post by mimx
To me it indicates probable pretension and unbearableness. I thought I already said that.
That comment indicates your highly probable brainlessness.
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