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    Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
    Hi, I know this is really really early to think about such things but i am the kind of person that likes to plan things years in advance (providing that i live lol).. Just pretend as if i'm in my 2nd year of uni.. AND i know things might change in a few years but lets just hope it doesn't :P Okay. Basically, i'm currently doing a joint degree in Sport studies and Social work. I did BTEC Sports, BTEC IT and A Level Maths at college. I achieved all distinctions for BTEC and a grade D for A Level Maths (I achieved A* for Maths GCSE early entry in year 10).. But i really do not mind becoming a SECONDARY school maths teacher simply because i enjoyed it so much at school and college (despite my grade D lol).. Now, i understand that i can do a subject knowledge enhance course for Maths providing that i can get onto a PGCE etc.. However, i have seen on many university websites saying that you must have A Level knowledge in maths but it doesn't actually tell you what grade you need for A Level maths to get on the SKE for Maths. My dilemma is, do you think i should re do some of my A level modules and try to get a C for Maths? (I don't know why but grade C just about sounds like a respectable grade)... Or do you think i should just stick with the grade D? After all, it doesn't specifically say you need a certain grade. I've seen like 10 universities offering the SKE and not one mentioned anything about a grade. Help? P.S are there are people out there that have got onto the SKE MEC? Please share your experience! Thanks

    EDIT.

    By the way, for everyone who's interested.

    I managed to get my C for A Level Maths! ^__^
    Last edited by Abed1993; 25-08-2012 at 00:29.
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
    I've answered this twice over at the TES!
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
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    I've answered this twice over at the TES!
    Twice lol?

    was this your comment on TES

    "I know people who have been accepted onto an SKE course without any mathematics beyond GCSE so I don't think you have anything to worry about". ?

    If so, how did they go on to the course? Like did they have to be persuasive enough or..
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
    (Original post by Abed1993)
    Twice lol?

    was this your comment on TES

    "I know people who have been accepted onto an SKE course without any mathematics beyond GCSE so I don't think you have anything to worry about". ?

    If so, how did they go on to the course? Like did they have to be persuasive enough or..
    Yes.

    I don't think it is terribly difficult to get a place at the moment. Some PGCE courses in secondary mathematics do not fill their quotas. The situation may be completely different by the time you graduate though. It is entirely possible SKEs will no longer exist.
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    Yes.

    I don't think it is terribly difficult to get a place at the moment. Some PGCE courses in secondary mathematics do not fill their quotas. The situation may be completely different by the time you graduate though. It is entirely possible SKEs will no longer exist.
    I see.. Do you know how long SKE has been around for?
    Also, i've been told maths has been a shortage subject since 2001! So i'm pretty sure it still might in a few years time .. fingers crossed!
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    (Original post by Abed1993)
    I see.. Do you know how long SKE has been around for?
    Also, i've been told maths has been a shortage subject since 2001! So i'm pretty sure it still might in a few years time .. fingers crossed!
    They haven't been around for long - maybe about 4 years? There was a MEC before that which was much the same.
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    They haven't been around for long - maybe about 4 years? There was a MEC before that which was much the same.
    i see... so do you think i should re do a few modules or just sit back and wait till the time comes?
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    My maths teacher said you don't have to as long as you have a degree which shows you have good math ability.
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    My maths teacher said you don't have to as long as you have a degree which shows you have good math ability.
    Not doing a degree that has a lot of math content :/..
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
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    Not doing a degree that has a lot of math content :/..
    bull****, maths is bullo****, I got a d
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
    (Original post by Abed1993)
    Not doing a degree that has a lot of math content :/..
    Your degree should have 50% plus of its content being the subject you wish to teach.
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    a maths teacher at my school has a degree in psychology...
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
    (Original post by Abed1993)
    Hi, I know this is really really early to think about such things but i am the kind of person that likes to plan things years in advance (providing that i live lol).. Just pretend as if i'm in my 2nd year of uni.. AND i know things might change in a few years but lets just hope it doesn't :P Okay. Basically, i'm currently doing a joint degree in Sport studies and Social work. I did BTEC Sports, BTEC IT and A Level Maths at college. I achieved all distinctions for BTEC and a grade D for A Level Maths (I achieved A* for Maths GCSE early entry in year 10).. But i really do not mind becoming a maths teacher simply because i enjoyed it so much at school and college (despite my grade D lol).. Now, i understand that i can do a subject knowledge enhance course for Maths providing that i can get onto a PGCE etc.. However, i have seen on many university websites saying that you must have A Level knowledge in maths but it doesn't actually tell you what grade you need for A Level maths to get on the SKE for Maths. My dilemma is, do you think i should re do some of my A level modules and try to get a C for Maths? (I don't know why but grade C just about sounds like a respectable grade)... Or do you think i should just stick with the grade D? After all, it doesn't specifically say you need a certain grade. I've seen like 10 universities offering the SKE and not one mentioned anything about a grade. Help? P.S are there are people out there that have got onto the SKE MEC? Please share your experience! Thanks

    It might be worth emailing some places that you might want to apply to. Put your situation to them and see if they would accept it, or what the right thing to do would be.
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
    You are only capable of a D yourself, and yet you hope to teach others to achieve an A?
    Last edited by Bobifier; 31-05-2012 at 00:17.
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
    (Original post by Bobifier)
    You are only capable of a D yourself, and yet you hope to teach others to achieve an A?
    Not sure if you're aware but GCSEs are different to A levels.
    I want to teach at secondary school, GCSE Maths.
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    bull****, maths is bullo****, I got a d
    A Level or GCSE?
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    (Original post by carnationlilyrose)
    Your degree should have 50% plus of its content being the subject you wish to teach.
    That's not true to an extent..

    If you want to teach a shortage subject (maths, ICT, chemistry, MFL etc).. then you can do a subject knowledge enhancement course and then go on to do a PGCE. However, they would prefer that you have A level knowledge at least.
    Last edited by Abed1993; 31-05-2012 at 00:24.
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    Re: Becoming a Maths teacher without a degree in Mathematics?
    (Original post by carnationlilyrose)
    Your degree should have 50% plus of its content being the subject you wish to teach.
    This "rule" does not apply in this case as the OP intends to do the SKE (and it is routinely disapplied for shortage subjects anyway).

    The only essential requirement is a pulse.
    Last edited by Mr M; 31-05-2012 at 06:55.
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    This "rule" does not apply in this case as the OP intends to do the SKE (and it is routinely disapplied for shortage subjects anyway).

    The only essential requirement is a pulse.
    The SKE course that I am currently on requires an A Level, as the course content is quite hard without it! I am doing my A Level at the moment, and have had to get to terms with imaginary numbers etc, but whether I'd ever teach Further Maths is another question.

    I was told by the course tutor originally that I would struggle big time without the A Level, however, I am really enjoying it. S2 and M2/3 would have been good modules in the A Level to study, oh yes, I've got D1/2 to go on the course yet.

    But the SKE has got me a job in a local school for September

    25 hours a week is what I'm spending on the course, and this is advised for a four month course. The rest of the time is spent revising integration for C4!.
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    (Original post by Abed1993)
    A Level or GCSE?
    GCSE
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