[mohsanrabbani]

I see great hatred towards Muslims by numerous individuals around the world about Islam and terrorism. I always believed that there was more to the eye with 9/11 and connecting 9/11 solely on Muslims is wrong and can not be 100% confirmed. i also see lots of USA groups trying to find the real answer on who was behind to 9/11. below is an interesting video regarding the involvement of Israel with 9/11.

I'd also like to hear from others what they think about all these terrorist attacks that happen around the world, is there a group apart from al-Qaeda behind them?

If one was to give a bad image of Islam and a reason to destroy the religion and its values surely in the last 10-15 years this has being accomplished

[Norton1]

There was none whatsoever. There. I've saved everyone pages and pages of boredom.

[mohsanrabbani]

(Original post by Norton1)
There was none whatsoever. There. I've saved everyone pages and pages of boredom.

your evidence? you suddenly hear Israel's name and you defend it? and if you heard islams name would you be readily defending it instantaneously? or the opposite?

[izzaha]

I really don't know what to think about 9/11. Al Qaeda may have been behind it but there is something about American media I don't trust. They have been known for reporting events in a bias way. I found it strange that when the plane hijackers were crashing they reportedly yelled "Allah hu Akhbar" (God is great) But if they were devoted muslims they would have know that the words said when you know you are going to die is "There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is his messenger".

[Norton1]

(Original post by mohsanrabbani)
your evidence? you suddenly hear Israel's name and you defend it? and if you heard islams name would you be readily defending it instantaneously? or the opposite?

If someone accuses Muslims of the Birmingham pub bombings my reaction would be exactly the same.

Muslims were responsible for 9/11. Deal with it. Doesn't make Islam an evil religion or anything, but those are the facts and saying otherwise is clearly incorrect.

[mohsanrabbani]

(Original post by izzaha)
I really don't know what to think about 9/11. Al Qaeda may have been behind it but there is something about American media I don't trust. They have been known for reporting events in a bias way. I found it strange that when the plane hijackers were crashing they reportedly yelled "Allah hu Akhbar" (God is great) But if they were devoted muslims they would have know that the words said when you know you are going to die is "There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is his messenger". So that seemed strange. Also the fact that they were able to identify and get pictures of all 18 hijackers in 48 hours was strange. I'm not sure if Israel was behind it or not they may have been but right now I'm not sure, I know a lot of people who believe that Israel was behind it, muslims and non muslims.

thanks for your response

[Elipsis]

(Original post by izzaha)
I really don't know what to think about 9/11. Al Qaeda may have been behind it but there is something about American media I don't trust. They have been known for reporting events in a bias way. I found it strange that when the plane hijackers were crashing they reportedly yelled "Allah hu Akhbar" (God is great) But if they were devoted muslims they would have know that the words said when you know you are going to die is "There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is his messenger". So that seemed strange. Also the fact that they were able to identify and get pictures of all 18 hijackers in 48 hours was strange. I'm not sure if Israel was behind it or not they may have been but right now I'm not sure, I know a lot of people who believe that Israel was behind it, muslims and non muslims.

They had access to the flight records which the (Muslim) terrorists boarded with their real passports. Getting a picture of them isn't exactly going to be difficult. You, and the OP, just can't stand the idea that the blame for 9/11 falls squarely on Islam's shoulders.

[mohsanrabbani]

(Original post by Elipsis)
They had access to the flight records which the (Muslim) terrorists boarded with their real passports. Getting a picture of them isn't exactly going to be difficult. You, and the OP, just can't stand the idea that the blame for 9/11 falls squarely on Islam's shoulders.

but when there is so much controversy on this subject, high amount of evidence open to different groups, what makes us 'the population' choose which idea to stand with?

i.e. sky news claims one group was responsible for an action do we instantly agree with them?(based on there evidence)

what im trying to establish regarding the 9/11 attacks is that more resarch needs to be done as there is neumours amounts of evidence that has hard explanations, and yet indiduals can make fast descions on who is responsable on judgment of what the media tells them.

[Elipsis]

(Original post by izzaha)
Thank you very much but I am not trying to shift the blame of 9/11 from al qaeda, i am only trying to find answers to questions...sheesh.

secondly i have more questions perhaps you could answer them...
1) On the day of 9/11 reports were present about israeli men in vans with explosives, who were cheering and celebrating on that day,there were many reports like soon these reports had just vanished.
2) The agency responsible for the airport security where the hijackers departed were Israeli
3) The attack caused the 2 twin towers to collapse but why did a third building collapse? It wasn't in contact with the plane?

I am not anti Semetic nor am i frustrated with the blame of 9/11 falling on Islam's shoulder. I just find this topic interesting.

You are making things up, or you are just swallowing bs made up by other people. The only people celebrating that day were Arabs.

[Rhadamanthus]

The OP is a liar, izzaha is a liar, and this thread topic is despicable. You are wasting everyone's time with these juvenile conspiracy theories.

[Aj12]

Why can't people accept that a group of extremist nutjob Muslims flew planes into the twin towers? 9/11 was hardly from some unknown group that had never carried out terroist attacks before. They had been attacking US interests and carrying out bombings for a decade before 9/11.

[UniOfLife]

Since conspiracy theories always start with the conclusion and are designed to show that the target group (the supposed conspirators) are incredibly dangerous and evil - the less evidence there is in support of the theory the better. If there's no evidence that simply shows just how clever, resourceful and controlling the conspirators really are.

However, in this case OP is absolutely correct. I have worked for Mossad for many years and can confirm that Israel was entirely behind 9/11 and have been successfully stifling any debate on the topic for over a decade now. In part this has been done through the use of targeted assassinations of key figures among those aiming to expose the conspiracy. For those lower down it is sufficient to destroy their credibility. Our reach is global and without limit. OP - I sincerely hope you fully thought through the consequences of airing your thoughts in public. I for one don't think that the consequences to your life are worth it...

Spoiler:

Show

For the morons on TSR - that was obviously a joke. I think the best response to a conspiracy nutter is to fuel their conspiracism and at the same time gently point out that they're really quite stupid for trying to expose a world-wide conspiracy that was as successful and deadly as 9/11.

[A.Fitzgerald]

Get a bloody life and go dream up moon landing conpiraces you waste of space.

[izzaha]

(Original post by Elipsis)
You are making things up, or you are just swallowing bs made up by other people. The only people celebrating that day were Arabs.

It disgusts me that you would actually think arabs, and other muslims i assume, would celebrate the death of 3000 innocent civilians. And by the way it wasn't made up -.-

[MrHayden]

This is a stupid argument. I beseech the rest of TSR to STOP POSTING on this threat, otherwise the OP might actually think that his position can be taken seriously.

[cl_steele]

so when muslim extremeists flew a plane into a building you immediatly pop out with israel? how may i ask did you come to this conclusion? and why would israel attack its biggest backer and ally...

[Rhadamanthus]

(Original post by izzaha)
It disgusts me that you would actually think arabs, and other muslims i assume, would celebrate the death of 3000 innocent civilians. And by the way it wasn't made up -.-

Why don't you check out the videos of the thousands of Palestinians dancing in Gaza, or the Palestinian Authority handing out sweets to the children on such a joyous occasion, then maybe you'd give up asking loaded 'questions' that just betray your ignorance.

[Igrisok]

Israel: Hey Muslim guys can you fly some planes into a building for me
Saudis: Haha hey yeah sure buddy, anything for you Israelis!

???

(the joke is that Arabs famously don't like Israel)

[im so fresh]

Well. Whoever was truly responsible for 9/11 could call themselves Muslims but they wouldn't be representing the religion correctly.
In Islam~it is COMPLETELY against the religion to kill innocent civilians. Even if it was any type of jihad whatsoever. Nothing excuses killing civilians.

Also, to a post i saw above about people celebrating to what happened? Nobody ever mentions who died in the middle east from war crimes by the army. What happened to the 30,000 innocent people who died in Afghanistan by bomb blasts from the military. Not saying that 9/11 is justifiable but neither is this.

We really don't need war in this world. If this world were to survive for more centuries then we really need to start working together.

[LightninLew]

(Original post by mohsanrabbani)
your evidence? you suddenly hear Israel's name and you defend it? and if you heard islams name would you be readily defending it instantaneously? or the opposite?

Why does he need evidence? You made a claim not him, it's you who needs evidence to back up your claim that there is a possible link between Israel and 9/11.

(Original post by izzaha)
It disgusts me that you would actually think arabs, and other muslims i assume, would celebrate the death of 3000 innocent civilians. And by the way it wasn't made up -.-

Why wouldn't they? If some Muslims hated these innocent civilians enough to plough a plane through them, burn them alive, bury them under tons of rubble, and force them to jump to their deaths, do you really think nobody was celebrating? Of course they were.