[River85]

(Original post by Pyramidologist)
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Again, I'm not saying the BNP are left wing (even in their economic policy) but they stand in contrast to economic policy commonly advocated by right wing parties, particuarly the New Right They have gone on record as opposing laissez-fare captailism, economic liberalism and Thatcherism. This is not a misreprestentation, it is explicity stated in previous manifestos.

It is just my opinion that a simple left-right distinction is not sufficient.

I was genuinely completely unaware that internet "trolls" have claimed the BNP are left wing.

[Mexican Red Knee]

(Original post by River85)
He despised the right in Germany at the time as well as the left. He frequently stated he doesn't identify with either the left or the right.

The National Socialist party overall is considered a far-right party by most though.

Hitler himself was right wing.

[AspiringGenius]

Can I fake internationality (I'm british), so i can take the money and be a ****ing rich don in [insert small African nation]?

[Miraclefish]

I've just realised that I'm Canadian. Or Australian. Or from that really nice beach in Sri Lanka.

....can I have my fifty grand now?

[Aaron_xyz]

(Original post by Pyramidologist)
You are using these terms in their modern decadent terminology, which has basically stripped them from their original ethnic roots. British is a meta-ethnicity, compromising the indigenous folk or ancestral peoples of the British Isles. Obviously this excludes a lot of races and other ethnic groups.

And.. so what?

[River85]

(Original post by Mexican Red Knee)
The National Socialist party overall is considered a far-right party by most though.

Hitler himself was right wing.

Not really. A significant number of commentators and historians reject Hitler as being far right. Even if the majority do believe he's right wing this is only majority opinion. It doesn't make it fact.

I don't believe you can easily place people on some political spectrum going from left to right, especially someone as complex as Hitler.

[Mexican Red Knee]

(Original post by River85)
Not really. A significant number of commentators and historians reject Hitler as being far right. Even if the majority do believe he's right wing this is only majority opinion. It doesn't make it fact.

I don't believe you can easily place people on some political spectrum going from left to right, especially someone as complex as Hitler.

What do you consider him?

It depends like you say because what the party was and what he was himself is two different things (he didn't create the party remember).

[Tierneylouise]

End of the day Britain only develops what has been given or inspired by other countries. Fair enough! Stick up your own British arses and try sort this country out! This country has been messed up by you Britain!! Typical English blaming other people! Barack Obama is the only politician I have time for, not because he is black. But because he doesn't sit and point fingers at the culprits of the problems, but deals with them!!!! What the hell have the full born and bred British done? LOL. I hope there really is a God because you people who feel its okay to control other people will be getting a good taste of your own medicine.

[Mexican Red Knee]

(Original post by Tierneylouise)
End of the day Britain only develops what has been given or inspired by other countries. Fair enough! Stick up your own British arses and try sort this country out! This country has been messed up by you Britain!! Typical English blaming other people! Barack Obama is the only politician I have time for, not because he is black. But because he doesn't sit and point fingers at the culprits of the problems, but deals with them!!!! What the hell have the full born and bred British done? LOL. I hope there really is a God because you people who feel its okay to control other people will be getting a good taste of your own medicine.

British people are one of the greatest ethnic groups of the white race who have did a lot for the world.

You are brain dead.

Obama is not black, he is mixed race...

27% - Is Obama Black?

Overall, about a quarter of Americans (27%) see President Barack Obama as black; a 52% majority see him as of mixed race. But the latest Pew Research Center racial attitudes survey finds views differ sharply among racial and ethnic groups. Offered a choice, most blacks (55%) say Obama is black, while about a third (34%) say he is mixed race.

[Pyramidologist]

(Original post by River85)
I was genuinely completely unaware that internet "trolls" have claimed the BNP are left wing.

As i said it is, the same for the trolls who claim National Socialism is left-wing as well. These claims are rejected in peer-reviewed literature. No scholar takes them seriously, they are just repeatedly promoted on conspiracy-esque blogs or on internet forums for a reaction. As i said it gets very boring seeing debunked claims, but people on the internet will cling to anything that sounds a bit different or controversial for a reaction, despite they know it isn't true. Type ''Nazis were left wing'' on Google search, and you will just find the same old trollish conspiracy-eque blogs, the same sort of people who believe in freemason or illuminati New World Order, aliens and so forth. None have any substantial sources to back up their claims. As i said, there is not a single peer reviewed paper claiming the Nazis were left, nor for that matter the BNP.

[anaplian]

(Original post by Mexican Red Knee)
You cannot be a true British person and be non-white, fact.

The exact same as a white person born in China will never be a true Chinese person.

National identity is irrelevant, the fact that you give such credence to it is pretty laughable.

Then again so have many others throughout history, i guess i shouldn't be surprised.

I pity you.

[de_monies]

As far as 50K goes, it's not that much, over a lifetime but if the BNP is elected, I'd guess I'd probably be at fear for my life because the country will have turned against ethnic minorities - potentially like Nazi Germany, so it would probably be wise to leave; whether you get the 50K or not

Either that, or the BNP seize power and I'll stay because the people won't have voted them in, and I should then be relatively safe, unless of course the BNP become even more authoritarian, where it would be wise to move out, unless you happen to be really fearless

[gagaslilmonsteruk]

I can't believe people actually vote for them - what idiots.

[de_monies]

(Original post by Mexican Red Knee)
The National Socialist party overall is considered a far-right party by most though.

Hitler himself was right wing.

You know in a few third world nations, the cost of living is actually higher than it is in the UK? I was very, very surprised to see things in Pakistan costing as much, or more than what they cost in the UK, and it wasn't us just getting ripped off either; the locals were paying that amount

Though, in a lot of third world nations, it tends to be that things get cheaper as you move towards the capital, because that's where lots of things are made, but in developed nations, it tends to be the opposite

[Cinnamon_Twist]

(Original post by Mexican Red Knee)
Stormfront is full of keyboard warriors and trolls, although there is a few decent people on it... but a lot of what there say is flawed like a lot want the Europe for Europeans (I agree and support this) but think its acceptable for whites to stay in Americas or Australia since they colonised it but that isn't fair but even when you try and explain to them they can't have the cake and eat it they won't realise they are in the wrong... but hey that's life some people never accept their are wrong.

But this forum removed my post whilst others had just been as provocative to me.

Okay, just one question, if all immigrants are kicked out, how do you propose to fill the void left by highly skilled workers? i.e surgeons, GPs, Doctors, Professors etc Menial jobs can be filled easily but what about an asian, highly-skilled, highly-trained, top of his field, one of the best in the world brain surgeon for example?

How about all the benefits Britain gained from pillaging in countries that were then forced to join the empire? Do you not think that Britain owes them for eveything they have stolen?

[Carter78]

(Original post by Cinnamon_Twist)
Okay, just one question, if all immigrants are kicked out, how do you propose to fill the void left by highly skilled workers? i.e surgeons, GPs, Doctors, Professors etc Menial jobs can be filled easily but what about an asian, highly-skilled, highly-trained, top of his field, one of the best in the world brain surgeon for example?

How about all the benefits Britain gained from pillaging in countries that were then forced to join the empire? Do you not think that Britain owes them for eveything they have stolen?

Firstly, if all South Koreans were kicked out of this country the online gaming community would fall to its' knees! ( - (Joke)

Your second point doesn't make sense though, this would be another debate for a different thread, but during the time of the Empire the economic benefits for India, Canada, Ghana due to British investment and infrastructure projects were huge. - Although the Empire was obviously morally abhorrent in many other ways.

Plus, what other financial retribution were you thinking of? It would have to match the already considerable amounts of financial and logistical aid that we have given to former African colonies of ours.

[anaplian]

I address this to the mods of this forum:

If someone wants to write racist trash in a thread then let them, the reason why the majority engage them in discussion is to prove their stupidity on a public stage.

By randomly deleting posts you undermine the entire point of this forum - to discuss.

Please re-instate the deleted posts so we can continue our discussion, this is getting ridiculous.