[Dirac Delta Function]

(Original post by Martyn*)
My assertion - that Jews are massively influential in private banking and finance - is proved by all historians; even Lloyd Gartner wrote that Jews dominated merchant banking in modern times.

Please don't insult my intelligence by throwing me logical fallacies and straw man arguments.

Jews dominate academia and chess also. They're just very smart, doesn't mean they control the system. The system is not controllable.

[Martyn*]

(Original post by Miryo)
ok, jewism is not an ethnicity.

Jews are an ethnic group. They are only considered a religious group in a traditional sense, and so as long as we are referring to orthodox Jews instead, and not secular atheist Jews. By very definition atheist Jews have no religion; they are not religious, and identify themselves as Jews only ethnically or by race, as are other atheists of other ethnic groups whether Arabs or Bedouins. This is a basic distinction. Some people here have not grasped it.

[rural_boy]

(Original post by Martyn*)
I was advocating no such thing. My initial argument was that we could learn from Jewish economists (i.e., because they excell in that area and have done so historically as well), and you come along and turn my argument into an attack on Jews per se. Ridiculous! You are showing contempt for your own ethnic group. I have seen it before when I have conversed with Jewish people. In fact, the Jewish Defence League uses the same tactics against their detractors.

It's honestly a lost cause even trying to have a discussion with you Martyn, you're a fool, a poor hugely misguided fool and I honestly feel quite sorry for you..

[Martyn*]

(Original post by Dirac Delta Function)
Jews dominate academia and chess also. They're just very smart, doesn't mean they control the system. The system is not controllable.

Systems can be monopolised. The system of chess can be mastered by one player who is champion of all chess players. He may lose his ranking, however, or there may be other chess players of equal rank to him. Of modern times, and in the majority, the Russians have been the masters of the game of chess.

[Martyn*]

(Original post by rural_boy)
It's honestly a lost cause even trying to have a discussion with you Martyn, you're a fool, a poor hugely misguided fool and I honestly feel quite sorry for you..

Oh please...

[Polka Dot]

I should have known better than to bother reading this thread when I saw who posted it.

[Classical Liberal]

(Original post by Martyn*)
Because Jews are very clever overall. They excell at banking. Are they born with this knowledge? No. They inherit it. You can be Jewish without believing in God: you can be an atheist Jew. Have you learnt nothing? If you cannot understand this, how will you hope to understand the complexities of social dynamics and cultural history?

That is because other religions looked down upon money lending, and thus did not have bankers within their religion, and the other religions would not allow the Jews to join the professional cartels, thus Jews could not participate in other business.

Thus the Jews ended up doing something that other religions did not do, namely lending at interest, or banking to you and me. It is not because the Jews were intrinsically good with money that they ended up dominating banking, it was because banking was about the only profession a Jew could get ahead in and because other religions thought of lending at interest as a sin, usury.

[whofan]

the money changers need to be thrown out of the temple again......

[Martyn*]

(Original post by Classical Liberal)
That is because other religions looked down upon money lending, and thus did not have bankers within their religion, and the other religions would not allow the Jews to join the professional cartels, thus Jews could not participate in other business.

Thus the Jews ended up doing something that other religions did not do, namely lending at interest, or banking to you and me. It is not because the Jews were intrinsically good with money that they ended up dominating banking, it was because banking was about the only profession a Jew could get ahead in and because other religions thought of lending at interest as a sin, usury.

That is true. It still stands that the Jews are very well suited to the profession.

[PicardianSocialist]

Yes, lets listen to Jews. Clearly, Marx and Mises hold the answer!

[Rhadamanthus]

(Original post by PicardianSocialist)
Yes, lets listen to Jews. Clearly, Marx and Mises hold the answer!

Well, one of them does. I'll leave you guessing...