What social 'class' am I?
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Re: What social 'class' am I?"Torpedo Fish" suggests working class? Isn't that a Plato reference? Personally I didn't have Plato down as required reading for chavs.(Original post by zara55)
Although his ID name, "Torpedo Fish", suggests working class.
I think we have here someone in transition, moving both in his family and social circles from the lower parts of white collar towards something Better and More Aspiring. -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?I don't know, but we've missed the killer class-defining question to OP so far:(Original post by Billton)
I always thought a serviette was a paper one and a napkin was a fancy one
Do you own a MacBook??
This will offer definitive proof. -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?In my eyes, his demeanour, attitude and background allows himself to be asserted into the Working class category.(Original post by Chucklefiend)
He's undoubtedly not working class.
'working' class, the clue is in the name. This social group is comprised of blue collar workers, not people studying Chemistry at a top 20 university.
Remember - Middle Class historically are: Doctors, Bankers, Lawyers....
A large majority of people in the population are disillusioned into thinking they are above what they really are. -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?Crumbs yes, all the chavs are into epic poetry these days, along with Uggs.(Original post by Chucklefiend)
"Torpedo Fish" suggests working class? Isn't that a Plato reference? Personally I didn't have Plato down as required reading for chavs. -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?Yeah, because poor kids can't ever be intelligent, right?(Original post by Chucklefiend)
He's undoubtedly not working class.
'working' class, the clue is in the name. This social group is comprised of blue collar workers, not people studying Chemistry at a top 20 university.
. For most people, "class" is a mindset influenced by their upbringing and economic situation. Plenty of people are born to working-class parents in working-class areas, work their way to a better career and enter the "middle class" - it's called social mobility.
OP, I'd say you were lower-middle, but it's completely irrelevant either way.Last edited by AmyJ; 01-06-2012 at 15:05. -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?I'm impressed that you've somehow managed to ascertain his "demeanor" over an internet forum.(Original post by Luke Williams)
In my eyes, his demeanour, attitude and background allows himself to be asserted into the Working class category.
Remember - Middle Class historically are: Doctors, Bankers, Lawyers....
A large majority of people in the population are disillusioned into thinking they are above what they really are. With regards to language and grammar, he has not used any slang, his grammar is good and he seems fairly polite. With respect these are not attributes I'd necessarily associate with the working class.
Admittedly his Mother is employed in a blue collar job, but it's not his mother who we are are attempting to place into a class bracket. Aside from that he says that he lives in an "affluent suburban town in the South East". As I've said, merely the fact that he's studying a 'hard' subject at a reputable university renders him lower-middle class in my opinion. -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?The bit in bold is precisely my point. He may have been born into a working class family, although frankly I would dispute that based on the other information he has provided, but he is certainly no longer working class.(Original post by AmyJ)
Yeah, because poor kids can't ever be intelligent, right?. For most people, "class" is a mindset influenced by their upbringing and economic situation. Plenty of people are born to working-class parents in working-class areas, work their way to a better career and enter the "middle class" - it's called social mobility.
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Re: What social 'class' am I?That's some serious stereotyping going on there. I know far more polite, friendly working class people than middle class incidentally.(Original post by Chucklefiend)
I'm impressed that you've somehow managed to ascertain his "demeanor" over an internet forum. With regards to language and grammar, he has not used any slang, his grammar is good and he seems fairly polite. With respect these are not attributes I'd necessarily associate with the working class.
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Re: What social 'class' am I?Yes and the class system in this country is largely based upon stereotypes.(Original post by CJM13)
That's some serious stereotyping going on there. I know far more polite, friendly working class people than middle class incidentally. -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?No I have a Vaio.(Original post by zara55)
I don't know, but we've missed the killer class-defining question to OP so far:
Do you own a MacBook??
This will offer definitive proof.
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Re: What social 'class' am I?"Working class" is a state of mind as much as anything else. You don't just walk through the doors of Durham or Bristol or wherever and cast it off, it's in your family, it's ingrained in who you are. Some of my friends' parents are now wealthy by most standards, earning upwards of 80k individually, but they'd be gravely insulted by anyone calling them "middle class" because they grew up dirt poor and they still have that mindset. My friend's mother gives a lot of her income to charity because she's superstitious and believes she doesn't "deserve" to earn that much, and that somehow she has gained it through unjust/unfair means. Rich guilt is often a symptom of that kind of economic transition.(Original post by Chucklefiend)
The bit in bold is precisely my point. He may have been born into a working class family, although frankly I would dispute that based on the other information he has provided, but he is certainly no longer working class.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with the comedian Chris Rock, but I watched an interview of his once and he was asked about going from poverty to immense wealth. He said, half-jokingly: "Part of me hates my own kids...because now they will be "rich kids" no matter what I do. Sometimes I just look at them and think, "You rich mother****ers!"". -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?Wow. Ignorant, much?(Original post by Chucklefiend)
With regards to language and grammar, he has not used any slang, his grammar is good and he seems fairly polite. With respect these are not attributes I'd necessarily associate with the working class. -
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Re: What social 'class' am I?Although he was joking, that thing of parents who were raised working-class but became very well off envying their own kids is surprisingly common. I've seen examples at the private schools I went to. I've seen one rather sad (maybe doesn't look sad to some people) side effect at Uni, where some kids of very well off parents get absolutely zero support from them, at a time when it would really make a difference for them, the underlying cause being this kind of thing.(Original post by AmyJ)
I'm not sure if you're familiar with the comedian Chris Rock, but I watched an interview of his once and he was asked about going from poverty to immense wealth. He said, half-jokingly: "Part of me hates my own kids...because now they will be "rich kids" no matter what I do. Sometimes I just look at them and think, "You rich mother****ers!"".
