[anaplian]

Rancorous is right, do a different degree at a better university and convert if you can afford it.

[bestofyou]

(Original post by Rancorous)
I don't mean to put Reading down, it is actually an ok uni and has a good RAE rating for law, so maybe it wasn't the best example...but it isn't considered as good as any university in the Russell Group at which the OP may have a realistic shot. And this is a bit controversial but with the exceptions of a couple of universities like Bath, given recent defections, the Russell Group is to me more and more looking like the Ivy League of good universities in this country.

I tend to ignore the term Russell group in deciding which uni is better than which. I mean, to say that St. Andrews isn't as good as Glasgow or Edinburgh is not true.

To say Liverpool and Queens Belfast are 'Ivy League' is ludicrous.

So while I agree that most of the RG unis are top in the country, to say that all RG unis are better than anywhere else is not true, so it isn't a great idea to throw the term 'RG' around in regards to non-postgraduate matters.

Hence why I tend to say Top 20 unis as opposed to RG. Simply because the top 20 unis are not the 20 RG unis.

[Rancorous]

(Original post by sara :D)
Thanks guys, have repped posts I have found particularly useful!



I agree with you completely, I would be quite unhappy going to a non-russell group university. I believe I am on track for AAA, but if my AS results suggest otherwise, I will more than likely begin looking at other courses. However, would you still suggest I steer clear of a law degree if I theoretically achieve AAB, but am predicted AAA?

Um...that's a really difficult question, because you might have a realistic chance at AAA universities in that case - it's quite common for students to raise a grade from AS levels.

I took a law degree at a university which now requires A*AA and, I'll be honest, I wish I did something else like english or history. But it really depends on you. My advice would be to do what you're most interested in and what you're good at - sounds cliched but it's really true. Your degree marks matter much more to law firms than most other things. And I'd rather enjoy 3 years of my life doing something I liked rather than something I had to work my ass off to half understand.

See what happens on results day, and really review other degree options. That's what I would do if I were you. Also if a gap year is on the cards, if the law applications don't work out, you could have another bite at the apple in the next year's cycle.

[Bailey8]

(Original post by Ladyliesel)
Try Sheffield, Kent, Northumbria, Edinburgh, and Keele.

Are you kidding about edinburgh? Unless there are special circumstances you will not get in with anything lower than AAA

[Sbapu]

Lancaster

[MrHappy_J]

I disagree with the people on here saying you should change your degree if you don't get into an RG university, that's a bit ridiculous if Law is what you truly want to do.

[roh]

Leicester and Liverpool are both good and include General Studies as part of the offer making them a good back up option if you're certain of at least two 'normal' As (because GS is a doss to get A in).

Warwick offer AAB for Law with Business and Law with Sociology and they're both qualifying degrees if you have an interest in either subject area.

Any of the ones now doing A*AB if you have one really good subject. Check here: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/Law_Offers_2012

Places like UEA and Kent which are decent and still offer AAB.

And, the option I'd go for personally because I did have such a subject, just choosing your favourite A Level (History or English or Politics at a guess?) and sticking in an AAB RG/1994 uni (so not the likes of Durham or Bristol, but maybe Leeds/Manchester/Birmingham) for that as your reserve.

[Curious_Lawyer]

(Original post by sara :D)
Most of the universities I have been looking at (Bristol, Warwick, Nottingham etc) all ask for AAA, some even boosting grade requirements to A*AA (damn you Nottingham).

In case I am unable able to achieve these grades, could anyone suggest any universities, that are still reputable for law, that accept AAB (not just sometimes), or perhaps even ABB. I'm really not sure how my AS's went, as I always seem to do a lot better in my exams than I do in the preceding weeks, but I cannot be sure if it'll be the case this time round.

Edit: Just to clarify, I will still be looking chiefly at universities accepting AAA, but am looking for one AAB/ABB university in case I don't do as well as expected!

Perhaps you may like to consider Exeter? The grade range is from AAA-AAB and they accept the Welsh Baccalaureate as an A, if that makes any difference to you?

I got an offer AAB and a generous bursary if I do get AAA. I think you'd need good GCSE grades and a decent personal statement. I would be more than happy to send you mine to use it as a framework?

An alternative viewpoint:

Is law something you would really like to do?

If you are unsure about it to any extend, please do consider applying to other courses. Sorry I am not trying to put you off or anything, I speak from experience. Law is a very competitive degree and if you are looking to get into any other fields which is non law related.

I recommend going to an 'elite' institution instead. You seem intelligent and driven, perhaps you may like to consider History or English at Oxbridge? Or perhaps even something more different like Geography at LSE?

These institutions would put you on good stead for a successful career.

I wished I applied for geography instead.

Source:
Law applicant for UCAS 2012 and offer holder.

P.S. This is just an alternative viewpoint, one is wise to keep one's options open.

[gunner4lyf44]

(Original post by .gina)
Hull? Their offer is ABB.

I swear she said respected, same for the person who suggested Kent.

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by Rancorous)
I don't mean to put Reading down, it is actually an ok uni and has a good RAE rating for law, so maybe it wasn't the best example...but it isn't considered as good as any university in the Russell Group at which the OP may have a realistic shot. And this is a bit controversial but with the exceptions of a couple of universities like Bath, given recent defections, the Russell Group is to me more and more looking like the Ivy League of good universities in this country.

The Reading discussion is pretty academic as Reading is seeking AAA for 2013 entry.

[Yash13]

(Original post by sara :D)
Thanks guys, have repped posts I have found particularly useful!



I agree with you completely, I would be quite unhappy going to a non-russell group university. I believe I am on track for AAA, but if my AS results suggest otherwise, I will more than likely begin looking at other courses. However, would you still suggest I steer clear of a law degree if I theoretically achieve AAB, but am predicted AAA?

First off, if you want to read law you cannot be a slacker, this is not a comment to you its just what my sister tells me as she graduated from Birmingham with an LLB. If you feel like you are not capable of achieving AAA then you are going to find it difficult at any university, not because of the grades but due to the wrong attitude. Get your results, then take it from there this self doubt is not helpful. If you get the grades you want then take the LNAT and apply to the universities you want to go to not the ones you think you can get into. Russell group are just the largest research institutes in the country and it should not affect your decision but I would say majority for Law are in this group. Good luck and don't doubt yourself until you have the facts.

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by gunner4lyf44)
I swear she said respected, same for the person who suggested Kent.

Both Kent and Hull carry good reputations for law dating back three decades or more. Hull is unpopular because it is in...er... Hull (well it isn't really but the point is that Hull as a place isn't a great draw). I am not sure why Kent has fallen down but its research rating is one of the highest in the country.

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My friend got into Cardiff University with AAB (it's a Russell League University).

[Profesh]

(Original post by thelovecats)
sheffield for a lot of courses is aab, my offer from nottingham was aab but depends what course your doing!

This is the Law forum. Perhaps you didn't get the memo?

[breakeven]

I asked this question once and the answer I got was basically give up on a law degree if you don't get AAA. I completely disagree. Law is the only subject I am passionate about and want a career in so why would I want to study something else that i don't like?

Even if you do end up at a mid ranked university like Hull or Kent, its hardly the University of Teeside is it (one that hardly anyone has heard of). And who's to say you don't have a chance of still making a career out of law? As long as you do good in your degree, your employer wont care where it is from.

[tdkr]

(Original post by Ladyliesel)
Try Sheffield, Kent, Northumbria, Edinburgh, and Keele.

nah sheff is AAA (i applied there)

[JLXP]

(Original post by breakeven)
I asked this question once and the answer I got was basically give up on a law degree if you don't get AAA. I completely disagree. Law is the only subject I am passionate about and want a career in so why would I want to study something else that i don't like?

Even if you do end up at a mid ranked university like Hull or Kent, its hardly the University of Teeside is it (one that hardly anyone has heard of). And who's to say you don't have a chance of still making a career out of law? As long as you do good in your degree, your employer wont care where it is from.

I completely agree^

Additionally, Kent is ranked better than Leeds and sheffield on various uni-leaderboards. Some people on here automatically think nothing of you if you're not applying to Oxford or Cambridge. smh

[breakeven]

(Original post by JLXP)
I completely agree^

Additionally, Kent is ranked better than Leeds and sheffield on various uni-leaderboards. Some people on here automatically think nothing of you if you're not applying to Oxford or Cambridge. smh

Tell me about it, you have to take what is said on TSR in context as most are striving for Oxford/Cambridge. In my area, Hull and Lincoln are seen as the best ones because they're closest to my town, different opinions and all that.

In my family, no one has been to university before so when even if I went to the lowest ranked uni there is they would all still think I'm the biggest genius since Einstein.

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by breakeven)
Tell me about it, you have to take what is said on TSR in context as most are striving for Oxford/Cambridge. In my area, Hull and Lincoln are seen as the best ones because they're closest to my town, different opinions and all that.

In my family, no one has been to university before so when even if I went to the lowest ranked uni there is they would all still think I'm the biggest genius since Einstein.

You could study abroad you know... Nottingham or Leicester

[sara :D]

(Original post by Kevin Wu)
Perhaps you may like to consider Exeter? The grade range is from AAA-AAB and they accept the Welsh Baccalaureate as an A, if that makes any difference to you?

I got an offer AAB and a generous bursary if I do get AAA. I think you'd need good GCSE grades and a decent personal statement. I would be more than happy to send you mine to use it as a framework?

An alternative viewpoint:

Is law something you would really like to do?

If you are unsure about it to any extend, please do consider applying to other courses. Sorry I am not trying to put you off or anything, I speak from experience. Law is a very competitive degree and if you are looking to get into any other fields which is non law related.

I recommend going to an 'elite' institution instead. You seem intelligent and driven, perhaps you may like to consider History or English at Oxbridge? Or perhaps even something more different like Geography at LSE?

These institutions would put you on good stead for a successful career.

I wished I applied for geography instead.

Source:
Law applicant for UCAS 2012 and offer holder.

P.S. This is just an alternative viewpoint, one is wise to keep one's options open.

In all honesty, I have been looking at law for quite a few years now, but because of the competitiveness some people have put me off a little. There isn't too much else I am very passionate about, apart from PPE which is very similar (if not higher) requirements.

May I ask what classifies as good GCSE grades? On TSR this tends to mean straight A*'s haha. I got 4 A*'s and 5 A's.

(Original post by Yash13)
First off, if you want to read law you cannot be a slacker, this is not a comment to you its just what my sister tells me as she graduated from Birmingham with an LLB. If you feel like you are not capable of achieving AAA then you are going to find it difficult at any university, not because of the grades but due to the wrong attitude. Get your results, then take it from there this self doubt is not helpful. If you get the grades you want then take the LNAT and apply to the universities you want to go to not the ones you think you can get into. Russell group are just the largest research institutes in the country and it should not affect your decision but I would say majority for Law are in this group. Good luck and don't doubt yourself until you have the facts.

I try not to doubt myself, but because my friends doubt themselves (quite a lot), I've sort of fallen into the same stance. But then again, I don't really want to jynx anything by saying 'Oh yes AAA definitely achieved, no doubt about it'. I don't want to end up heart broken when I receive my results.