Widely believed myths
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Re: Widely believed mythsIndeed, bulls are actually colour blind.(Original post by perfectsymbology)
The colour red angers Bulls into charging. In fact it is the waving of the cloth that angers them. -
Re: Widely believed myths
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...misconceptions
Basically all of them.
Some particular ones to highlight:
Glass is NOT a liquid
The Great Wall of Chine CANNOT be seen from space
A penny dropped from a tall building CANNOT kill somebodyLast edited by 117r; 01-06-2012 at 17:20. -
Re: Widely believed mythsWell I don't really know. i wouldn't consider eating sperm. I don't now when I am a vegetarian, and I didn't consider eating sperm when I wasn't a vegetarian.(Original post by JordanS94)
This maybe off subject but I've asked a vegan if they would swollow sperm and they went yes ... but they don't even eat dairy products
They're eating what could have been potential human beings ...are they a real vegan ?
(I know it's not from an animal but there is no logic from it)
I think it depends what kind of sperm- if it's human then i don't think it is that big a deal. vegans normally rage against dairy because of rage against agricultural methods.
i think your friend is weird rather than immoral though
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Re: Widely believed mythsSince when is that a myth? They are not directly caused by cold weather, but the effects of extreme cold weaken your immune system and cause the already present germs to multiply. Why do you think flu rates skyrocket in the Winter?(Original post by chelseafan)
Colds and Flus are caused by cold weather.
In fact half the contents of this thread are so called 'truths to myths' that are in fact myths themselves.
You can see the Great wall of China from space, depending on your definition of space: if you are hovering at around 100km, the Karman line, then you can. And Descartes did say 'I think therefore I am': he said 'ego cogito, ergo ego sum'. Take it from a Latin scholar: that means 'I think, therefore I am'.Last edited by Copperknickers; 01-06-2012 at 17:33. -
Re: Widely believed myths(Original post by BethaneyJ)
Your tongue has taste regions
Still taught today but actually not true at all. It was a mistranslation from a German (I think) scientific paper.
Really?
That must be one of the most widely taught misconceptions.
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Re: Widely believed myths
Race.
People refuse to accept their delusions are fantasies:
Spoiler:Show"The myth of major genetic differences across “races” is nonetheless worth dismissing with genetic evidence." (Owens & King, 1999).
"Although conventional ‘racial’ categories as typically understood may not be defined by particular genetic markers, ‘pockets of populations’ living in particular geographical locales could be so defined." (McCann-Mortimer et al., 2004).
"We discourage the use of race as a proxy for biological similarity and support efforts to minimize the use of the categories of race and ethnicity in clinical medicine, maintaining focus on the individual rather than the group." (Lee et al., 2008).
"Because of a history of extensive migration and gene flow, however, human genetic variation tends to be distributed in a continuous fashion and seldom has marked geographic discontinuities. Thus, populations are never “pure” in a genetic sense, and definite boundaries between individuals or populations (e.g. “races”) will be necessarily somewhat inaccurate and arbitrary." (Jorde & Wooding, 2004).
"In short, while human biological variation certainly seems to be real, the ways that we cut it up, name and describe it are the product of our scientific imagination." (Morning, 2005).
"[...] The number of races observed expanded to the 30s and 50s, and eventually anthropologists concluded that there were no discrete races (Marks, 2002). 20th and 21st Century biomedical researchers have discovered this same feature when evaluating human variation at the level of alleles and allele frequencies. Nature has not created four or five distinct, nonoverlapping genetic groups of people." (Ossorio & Duster, 2006).
"Our results show that when individuals are sampled homogeneously from around the globe, the pattern seen is one of gradients of allele frequencies that extend over the entire world, rather than discrete clusters. Therefore, there is no reason to assume that major genetic discontinuities exist between different continents or “races.”" (Serre & Pääbo, 2004).
"To avoid making "race" the equivalent of a local population, minimal thresholds of differentiation are imposed. Human "races" are below the thresholds used in other species, so valid traditional subspecies do not exist in humans. A "subspecies" can also be defined as a distinct evolutionary lineage within a species. Genetic surveys and the analyses of DNA haplotype trees show that human "races" are not distinct lineages, and that this is not due to recent admixture; human "races" are not and never were "pure." Instead, human evolution has been and is characterized by many locally differentiated populations coexisting at any given time, but with sufficient genetic contact to make all of humanity a single lineage sharing a common evolutionary fate." (Templeton, 1998).
"Race is an accepted socio-cultural concept that lacks supportive genetic evidence." (Kittles et al., 2007).
"Biologists also disagree about the meaning of ‘race’, and whether it is applicable to human infraspecific (within-species) variation." (Keita et al., 2004).
"It has not been demonstrated that any human breeding population is sufficiently divergent to be taxonomically recognized by the standards of modern molecular systematics." (Keita et al., 2004).
"Studies of human population genetics and evolution have generated the strongest proof that there is no scientific basis for racism, with the demonstration that human genetic diversity between populations is small, and perhaps entirely the result of climatic adaptation and random drift." (Cavalli-Sforza, 2005).
"The points of agreement in the following articles reflect a shared evolutionary perspective that focuses on describing and interpreting the apportionment of biological variation between individuals both within and among groups (see also Lee et al., 2008). We agreed that:
- There is substantial variation among individuals within populations.
- Some biological variation is apportioned between individuals in different populations and among larger population groupings.
- Patterns of within- and among-group variation have been substantially shaped by culture, language, ecology, and geography.
- Race is not an accurate or productive way to describe human biological variation.
- Human variation research has important social, biomedical, and forensic implications."
"There was really only one fundamental difference of opinion among the symposium participants, which was about the precise nature of the geographic patterning of human biological variation" (Edgar and Hunley, 2009; Caspari, 2009; Edgar, 2009; Gravlee, 2009; Hunley et al., 2009; Konigsberg et al., 2009; Long et al., 2009; Ousley et al., 2009; Relethford, 2009; Wolpoff, 2009).
More available on request.
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Re: Widely believed mythsReally? Have you got a source for that? (not accusing you, I am just interested as during my science years I have done several experiments which proved that Tongues do have taste regions.)(Original post by BethaneyJ)
You lose most of the heat from your head
Not true. Your head is most likely to be uncovered and lose heat, but by the head-loses-more-heat logic no trousers and a hat would be warmer.
Your tongue has taste regions
Still taught today but actually not true at all. It was a mistranslation from a German (I think) scientific paper.
EDIT: hmmmm seems your right : http://www.livescience.com/7113-tong...-debunked.htmlLast edited by Mrkingpenguin; 01-06-2012 at 17:31. -
Re: Widely believed mythsWhen you swallow sperm you have consent (usually!) whereas you don't have consent from the animals. That's the logic.(Original post by JordanS94)
This maybe off subject but I've asked a vegan if they would swollow sperm and they went yes ... but they don't even eat dairy products
They're eating what could have been potential human beings ...are they a real vegan ?
(I know it's not from an animal but there is no logic from it)
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Re: Widely believed mythsBecause in winter people tend to spend a lot of time in badly ventilated rooms, crowded with many other people (germs spread easier) and since the warm air in heated buildings dries out the mucous membrans of your nose, germs can also enter your body easier. According to scientists the effect of coldth on the development of a flu is tiny.(Original post by Copperknickers)
Since when is that a myth? They are not directly caused by cold weather, but the effects of extreme cold weaken your immune system and cause the already present germs to cause the condition. Why do you think flu rates skyrocket in the Winter?
In fact half the contents of this thread are so called 'busted myths' that are in fact myths themselves.
Btw, I would like to see you proing that half of this thread's content is not true - give examples! -
Re: Widely believed mythsSurely not. Its about the animal being bred and kept in captivity just to provide you with milk, something that is not true of sperm. No?(Original post by ArtGoblin)
When you swallow sperm you have consent (usually!) whereas you don't have consent from the animals. That's the logic.Last edited by nexttime; 01-06-2012 at 22:58. -
Re: Widely believed mythsYour claim about the Great wall of China is not true, whether it is even visible from a very low orbit (as low as 100 km) is debatable and numerous sources (a Chinese astronaut, NASA etc.) claim that it cannot be seen with the bare exe. A scientific study found that human eyesight would have to be 7.7 times better to be able to spot the wall.(Original post by Copperknickers)
Since when is that a myth? They are not directly caused by cold weather, but the effects of extreme cold weaken your immune system and cause the already present germs to multiply. Why do you think flu rates skyrocket in the Winter?
In fact half the contents of this thread are so called 'truths to myths' that are in fact myths themselves.
You can see the Great wall of China from space, depending on your definition of space: if you are hovering at around 100km, the Karman line, then you can. And Descartes did say 'I think therefore I am': he said 'ego cogito, ergo ego sum'. Take it from a Latin scholar: that means 'I think, therefore I am'.
However, at sunrise and sunset the shade of the wall can be seen from space.Last edited by Sir Fox; 01-06-2012 at 17:50. -
Re: Widely believed mythsSorry, but no. That may be part of it, but a lot if not most of people with flu in Winter are elderly people living on their own who rarely have contact with others. They get the flu because their houses are not properly heated and so their immune systems are weakened.(Original post by Sir Fox)
Because in winter people tend to spend a lot of time in badly ventilated rooms, crowded with many other people (germs spread easier) and since the warm air in heated buildings dries out the mucous membrans of your nose, germs can also enter your body easier. According to scientists the effect of coldth on the development of a flu is tiny.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12113594
It was a figure of speech. Do you really think I went through the entire thread and ascertained that exactly 50% were not true? Feel free to attack the examples I did give in my edit.Btw, I would like to see you proing that half of this thread's content is not true - give examples! -
Re: Widely believed mythsBeat me to it!!(Original post by Sir Fox)
Because in winter people tend to spend a lot of time in badly ventilated rooms, crowded with many other people (germs spread easier) and since the warm air in heated buildings dries out the mucous membrans of your nose, germs can also enter your body easier. According to scientists the effect of coldth on the development of a flu is tiny.
Btw, I would like to see you proing that half of this thread's content is not true - give examples!
A common misconception - the universe/deep space is Black...... it's actual colour is beige http://www.newscientist.com/article/...its-beige.html
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Re: Widely believed mythsNot exactly. Vegans wouldn't eat animals that were captured and killed, even though they had lived a free life before that. Breast milk and sperm can be voluntarily given so they are vegan.(Original post by nexttime)
Surely not. Its about the animal being bread and kept in captivity just to provide you with milk, something that is not true of sperm. No? -
Re: Widely believed mythsWhat he actually wrote was 'Je pense, donc je suis', the work being in French. I don't know whether you are fluent in French or not, but I am, so if you aren't you will just have to trust me: you are wrong.(Original post by Sir Fox)
Descartes actually wrote "that the proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind.", you you're wrong on that.
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'Je pense, donc je suis' - 'I think, therefore I am'
I prefer to use my own eyes as sources.Your claim about the Great wall of China is also not true, whether it is even visible from a very low orbit (as low as 100 km) is debatable and numerous sources (a Chinese astronaut, NASA etc.) claim that it cannot be seen with the bare exe. A scientific study found that human eyesight would have to be 7.7 times better to be able to spot the wall.
The myth is that the Great Wall is the only man made object which can be seen from space. It is not the only one, and it is a poor example of one, but nonetheless, from a very low altitude, the very border between Outer Space and the earth's atmosphere, it can be seen.
