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  1. arvin_infinity's Avatar
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    Ethanedioate
    Wondered if it is required to put the -charge on O in the complex ion diagram

    E.g. [Cr(C2O4)2(H2o)2]-

    only asking this cuz according to textbook we don't need to put the charge on p212-chem textbook OCR


    Someone please clarify


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    Last edited by arvin_infinity; 02-06-2012 at 01:19.
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    Re: Ethanedioate
    (Original post by arvin_infinity)
    Wondered if it is required to put the -charge on O in the complex ion diagram

    E.g. [Cr(C2O4)2(H2o)]-

    only asking this cuz according to textbook we don't need to put the charge on p212-chem textbook OCR


    Someone please clarify


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    I wouldn't, I'd just write the overall charge after the second square bracket

    Just out of interest, is this a real ion - the chromium only has 3 coordinate bonds instead of the standard 6.
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    Re: Ethanedioate
    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    I wouldn't, I'd just write the overall charge after the second square bracket

    Just out of interest, is this a real ion - the chromium only has 3 coordinate bonds instead of the standard 6.
    The ethandioate ion is bidentate...
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    Re: Ethanedioate
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    The ethandioate ion is bidentate...
    Ahh - is that '2' supposed to be subscript?

    Even still, there are only 5 bonds, unless there are 2 waters?
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    Re: Ethanedioate
    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    Ahh - is that '2' supposed to be subscript?

    Even still, there are only 5 bonds, unless there are 2 waters?
    5 valent complexes are really not very rare, what matters is the number of electrons donated rather than the number of ligands.
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    Re: Ethanedioate
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    5 valent complexes are really not very rare, what matters is the number of electrons donated rather than the number of ligands.
    Never come across specific 5 valent complexes at A level before, sort of forgot they existed
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    Re: Ethanedioate
    (Original post by thegodofgod)
    Ahh - is that '2' supposed to be subscript?

    Even still, there are only 5 bonds, unless there are 2 waters?
    I have no idea what you are talking about Ive written it as subscript!


    nah jkk I just edited it
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