The Jubilee, The Brainwashing, The Monarchy - Time to Wake up

Do people really believe and accept the Monarchy? Do they really agree that some of us are just born to be Kings/Queens/Princes?

The sheer ignorance of people is killing me inside, in 21st century should we really be having Royal Family and all this Imperialism?

This video pretty much sums it up for me - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH8_ycGjTfA&feature=g-all-lik

Now tell me how you love the Queen, keep worshiping the Queen, how you would die for the Queen because at the end of the day you are her subject, just a peasant and a consumer unit.

On the other hand if this world didn't have soo many stupid/ignorant/easy to manupulate sort of people then the elite would not be able to control us, so keep being stupid,close minded and ignorant because this planet needs more people like you.

Why is it that people need the monarchy to unite people?

There are plenty of other things to be proud to be a part of in this country. For me, the monarchy is simply a reminder of Britain's imperialistic past. Although I don't blame the current royal family for the actions of those in the past, I do think that people's opinions on the matter should at least be acknowledged. (E.g. the kohinoor diamond)

Tax payers money which could be much better spent on health services, education and all round efforts to improve the lives of many people in this country.

That something serves to unite people is a positive argument in favour of it - it does not mean that somehow the world would fall apart if it wasn't there, as you seem to be suggesting.



You'll presumably want to demolish the British Museum for similar reasons then? No? Good.



Rubbish. A President would very likely cost more. The debate is between a monarch and president, not between a monarch and something which costs nothing.

Do people really believe and accept the Monarchy? Do they really agree that some of us are just born to be Kings/Queens/Princes?

The sheer ignorance of people is killing me inside, in 21st century should we really be having Royal Family and all this Imperialism?

This video pretty much sums it up for me - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH8_ycGjTfA&feature=g-all-lik

Now tell me how you love the Queen, keep worshiping the Queen, how you would die for the Queen because at the end of the day you are her subject, just a peasant and a consumer unit.

On the other hand if this world didn't have soo many stupid/ignorant/easy to manupulate sort of people then the elite would not be able to control us, so keep being stupid,close minded and ignorant because this planet needs more people like you.

I explicitly gave explained the implication for you previously, LOOK

"You basically said, if you don't like it, get out.

Not liking a political policy in your country and wanting to reform it implies => You should "get out""

I'm saying that a policy of don't like it, then get out, could be used to justify anything. It had nothing to do with the monarchy lol. What don't you get about that? And please please explain how I implied that if we ever become a republic we will look back on this era as akin to Nazism, I'm genuinely interested. Q the excuses of why you won't!

I think your incredible judgemental and horrible saying that about people you dont know just because thay have a different opinion to you, sorry your opinion is not law.

I personally love the royal family, They're our heritage and we should embrace that

That something serves to unite people is a positive argument in favour of it - it does not mean that somehow the world would fall apart if it wasn't there, as you seem to be suggesting.



You'll presumably want to demolish the British Museum for similar reasons then? No? Good.



Rubbish. A President would very likely cost more. The debate is between a monarch and president, not between a monarch and something which costs nothing.

That something serves to unite people is a positive argument in favour of it - it does not mean that somehow the world would fall apart if it wasn't there, as you seem to be suggesting.


You'll presumably want to demolish the British Museum for similar reasons then? No? Good.


Rubbish. A President would very likely cost more. The debate is between a monarch and president, not between a monarch and something which costs nothing.

Well as I've already said we don't agree on how that comment is taken.

You don't see that when you use examples in relation to an argument you imply a relationship between the argument and the examples?

It's like me saying, people who want a republic want to change the country, like the far right or the IRA.

I put a negative connotation on change in the same way you did with the monarchy.

I just think that theyre a good example and they unite people, its not really a pathetic excuse,

and how are you planning to get rid of them exactly?

they still have all the powers, the queen could take all the powers from parliment if she wanted, although i do think that they take too much of tax payers money, who needs that much money to live off?

Another point to throw in is that the monarchy provides a great tourist attraction to Britain that brings in a great source of money for our country! I don't see any other reason why our country would have appeal!
And one very important point is that England's current government is Conservative (Not that coalition rubbish...) and the monarchy means that if one person doesn't support the views of one's government, they can still support their country as the Queen does not have a stated view in politics. The monarchy gives people freedom of choice, for example in America, if the president decides to abide by one rule and others do not agree with it, they are disagreeing with their country and government whereas in England, the person can still support their country while possibly not supporting their government.

But wasn't my argument pertaining to the policy of "Don't like it, just get out"? I don't see how "your implication that if we were ever to become a republic then we would look back on this era as akin to Nazism in Germany or Apartheid in SA." lol

Do people really believe and accept the Monarchy? Do they really agree that some of us are just born to be Kings/Queens/Princes?

The sheer ignorance of people is killing me inside, in 21st century should we really be having Royal Family and all this Imperialism?

This video pretty much sums it up for me - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH8_ycGjTfA&feature=g-all-lik

Now tell me how you love the Queen, keep worshiping the Queen, how you would die for the Queen because at the end of the day you are her subject, just a peasant and a consumer unit.

On the other hand if this world didn't have soo many stupid/ignorant/easy to manupulate sort of people then the elite would not be able to control us, so keep being stupid,close minded and ignorant because this planet needs more people like you.

Because that's what you imply with your sloppy examples.

Eh but no the don't bring in that much toursim. Frances palaces which are open to the public bring in up to, and this is not a lie, more than 20 times the amount of the british palaces i.e (buckinham palace 400,000 a year, the louvre palace 8.6 million).

Your second point makes no sense, in america the president doesn't make rules he merely suggests them in the house and in congress and hopes he can convinces enough representatives to write the bill and pass it through.

I personally love the royal family, They're our heritage and we should embrace that

It doesn't bother me that people like the royal family and the queen, but the one thing that really makes grinds my gears is the fact that people hold this view that the Royal Family deserve unconditional respect, that their mere existence is enough to warrant celebration. People view them as gods and if you dare bad mouth the Royal Family it's treason, and you deserve to be deported or even executed. Doesn't sound too dissimilar to a dictatorship really. I like living in Britain and I'd much rather live here than a lot of other places on Earth because here I have rights such as the right to freedom of speech, which is why the unrelenting propaganda and censorship of anything that dares to criticise our dictatorqueen makes me sick.