Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)

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  1. Zulfiqar's Avatar
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    Re: Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)
    (Original post by law@magiccircle)
    What's wrong with women's rights?

    Also the EEC is a domestic issue considering we applied to join!

    The Abdication crisis does not contain enough information to write a long answer on.

    I agree, however, that the General Strike might come up, but has been asked before, so it's 50/50.
    I haven't learnt anything about women's rights other than when I was in GCSEs and even then it was coursework and I wikipediaed myself an A for it.

    The EEC barely has enough to it other than we applying for it and getting rejected, De gaulle getting a bitch fit and ****. And no, the logic in that argument would mean other international entities such as the League of Nations can come up. Failure to join EEC is not a domestic political issue, its to do with the french bastard, trying to blemish British history, which is foreign issues. You can however use it as a Macmillan failure, with EEC countries performing much better than us.

    Finally, there is more than enough to write for the abdication crisis, as much as maybe the general strike with issues such as Baldwin's threat to leave office, commonwealth support for the PM, you can talk about the Kings's party raised by Churchill, simpson's sympthasiser for the Nazis. Its pretty much the Kings speech into an essay.

    And finally either way, im revising all night, just doing essay plans for every possible question which can come up. Atlee hopefully looking out for me tommorow from his grave!
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    Oh how I hope Baldwin and Macmillan come up, I see no reason why that wouldn't be a comparison question?
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    Re: Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)
    (Original post by Zulfiqar)
    I haven't learnt anything about women's rights other than when I was in GCSEs and even then it was coursework and I wikipediaed myself an A for it.

    The EEC barely has enough to it other than we applying for it and getting rejected, De gaulle getting a bitch fit and ****. And no, the logic in that argument would mean other international entities such as the League of Nations can come up. Failure to join EEC is not a domestic political issue, its to do with the french bastard, trying to blemish British history, which is foreign issues. You can however use it as a Macmillan failure, with EEC countries performing much better than us.

    Finally, there is more than enough to write for the abdication crisis, as much as maybe the general strike with issues such as Baldwin's threat to leave office, commonwealth support for the PM, you can talk about the Kings's party raised by Churchill, simpson's sympthasiser for the Nazis. Its pretty much the Kings speech into an essay.

    And finally either way, im revising all night, just doing essay plans for every possible question which can come up. Atlee hopefully looking out for me tommorow from his grave!
    Haha you basically think the same as me! I haven't revised women's rights at all either, I never really thought about it, but it's doubtful to come up anyway I think.

    I think the EEC has enough legs to make a question, poor economic growth under the tories pushed them towards Europe, 'the six' were being all dickish about it, French scared of Germans, UK close with USA, French scared of US intervention into Europe, crappy EFTA set up by the UK in competition, applied to join EEC De Gaulle vetoed!

    Not sure about Abdication though? As much as I'd want it to come up I don't really see it! There's only as you said King's Party, Baldwin tried to stay objective, W.E was a nazi, abdicated... that's it!
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    Re: Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)
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    Haha you basically think the same as me! I haven't revised women's rights at all either, I never really thought about it, but it's doubtful to come up anyway I think.

    I think the EEC has enough legs to make a question, poor economic growth under the tories pushed them towards Europe, 'the six' were being all dickish about it, French scared of Germans, UK close with USA, French scared of US intervention into Europe, crappy EFTA set up by the UK in competition, applied to join EEC De Gaulle vetoed!

    Not sure about Abdication though? As much as I'd want it to come up I don't really see it! There's only as you said King's Party, Baldwin tried to stay objective, W.E was a nazi, abdicated... that's it!
    I'm not going to go sleep tonight and I have 12 hours to revise pretty much everything. Going to go buy the redbullings. Abdication is not very likely, the only thing anyone can put their hand up for is Attlee if it does come up, I will be over the moon.
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    I'm thinking there's going to be a question regarding the Conservatives' election defeat in '64 and its contributory factors, one about Attlee and one on NG - that would be lovely...
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    Re: Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)
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    I'm not going to go sleep tonight and I have 12 hours to revise pretty much everything. Going to go buy the redbullings. Abdication is not very likely, the only thing anyone can put their hand up for is Attlee if it does come up, I will be over the moon.
    Dude that is a risky strategy! If you stay up all night you could be wrecked for the exam or you could have everything completely memorised, but either way you'll be pretty fried come 9.30.. but then again it's only an hour and half exam so you could slog through it!

    (Original post by AlexH1993)
    I'm thinking there's going to be a question regarding the Conservatives' election defeat in '64 and its contributory factors, one about Attlee and one on NG - that would be lovely...
    Election defeat in 64'? There isn't a huge amount is there? Douglas Home was a peer and out of touch, Profumo Affair, Kim Philby spying? Scandals & Sleaze... other than that I can't think of anything else.. what's NG?
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    I was thinking about how their political dominance ultimately led to their downfall, everything since '51? Economic conditions, failure to join EEC, Profumo, Gaitskell (and Wilson) etc..
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    good luck tomorrow everyone!
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    Dude that is a risky strategy! If you stay up all night you could be wrecked for the exam or you could have everything completely memorised, but either way you'll be pretty fried come 9.30.. but then again it's only an hour and half exam so you could slog through it!



    Election defeat in 64'? There isn't a huge amount is there? Douglas Home was a peer and out of touch, Profumo Affair, Kim Philby spying? Scandals & Sleaze... other than that I can't think of anything else.. what's NG?
    I work as a night doorman so my body is used to be sleep deprived. I use it to the best of my advantages during exam seasons, at the moment I've drank a bottle of Boost, so I'll be up all night anyway. I am going to have a top up before I go into the exam. I use a laptop too so it will be easier than all you minions!!

    And yeah I heard from my tutor that the election defeat of 64' maybe also come up, you got the economic downfall, out of touch Tories, extreme paranoia from Macmillan as well as his wife ****ing his under sec, profumo and Wilson's persona; yorkshire accent blah de fecking blah. NG is National Government btw bro.

    In theory the exam will only cover like 14-15 years worth of history if its NG and Atlee questions.
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    Re: Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)
    Are we all stressing? I'm feeling okay about it at the moment. :eek:
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    thought it went pretty well, did q 1 and 2
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    I liked that paper. 2&3 for me.
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    how did everyone tackle question 3? i wrote it in 3 factors in a very synoptic manner (labour economic policy failures, political / ideological failures and conservative strength which was built upon the foundations of the two other factors

    eitherway hope everyone did good, and i did 2 and 3 i was the only one to answer 2 in my centre- i thought it was a gift of a question.
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    I did questions 1 and 3, though messed up by saying Macmillan was PM in 1951!!! I hope that doesn't effect my marks too much? I loved question 1, there was so much to write about, and for question 3 I said that conservative strengths weren't the reason for Labour's defeat, it was more to do with the lack of economic success etc and first past the post system which caused Labour to lose. How'd everyone else do?
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    Did Q1 and 2.

    Thought it was a nice paper.
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    did two and three, thought two was a god send of a question, i've done it to death! overall think that was a pretty nice paper, think i fell down on question three though, wrote a lot about the strengths and failures of the 1845-51 gov, but not much about the actual election
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    Done Q1 & 3 Hopefully I've done well. I opened the paper and panicked at first, but I thought...yeah! I can do this! Now relying on the examiner! Fingers crossed for us all!


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    Re: Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)
    how did everyone tackle 2?

    i mentioned:
    Baldwins effective in the general strike, Carlton club meeting (forgot about abdication crisis)
    first past the post system heavily favored conservatives due to working class constituencies split between labour-liberals
    liberals had fallen greatly because of LG, no organisation how LG had to use his own funds
    Labour had reorganised under Henderson but still a junior party, weaknesses showed in 1924 government
    Baldwin "calm and statesmanlike" effective in national government, brought party unity unlike LG who had split the liberals
    Baldwin had useful resources in Austen Chamberlain, Neville Chamberlain and Churchill

    in the conclusion i just summed it all up by saying it was due to baldwin and for the last sentence put how he was one of the few prime ministers not to be voted out but retired
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    Re: Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)
    I did Questions 2 & 3!! I thought it was a really good paper actually, I wrote loads on Baldwin, and then thought the 51' election question was quite straight forward! Pretty pleased!
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    Re: Unit 3 - The State and the People: Britain 1918-64 (HIS3J)
    Question 2 was amazing. .. I was thinking of doing question 1 but there was way to much o could say for that and i would have got carried away with less time for my second qiestion..so i did question 2 and 3 instead... .i was almost not allowed to do the exam becouse i fergot my ID and the teach was being a pain, despite knowing me.
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