Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?

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    Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    EC301 Advanced Economic Analysis
    EC302 Political Economy
    EC303 Economic Policy Analysis
    EC307 Development Economics
    EC309 Econometric Theory
    EC310 Behavioural Economics
    EC311 History of Economics: How Theories Change
    EC313 Industrial Economics
    EC315 International Economics
    EC317 Labour Economics
    EC319 Economic Theory and Its Applications [formerly Math. Econ]
    EC321 Monetary Economics
    EC325 Public Economics
    EC333 Problems of Applied Econometrics
    FM212 Principles of Finance If FM212 in year 2, can select …
    FM300 or 320 Corporate OR Quantitative Finance (Never both)
    PH211 Philosophy of Economics



    EC3XX A further paper from the Economics Selection List
    AC211 Managerial Accounting
    AC310 Financial Management, Management Accounting and Control
    AC340 Auditing, Governance and Risk Management
    EH206 The Evolution of Economic Policy in Advanced Economies
    EH220 Comparative Economic Development: Late Industrialisation in Russia, India and Japan
    EH250 The Making Of An Economic Superpower: China Since 1850
    EH240 Business and Economic Performance Since 1945: Britain in International Context
    EH304 Economic History of North America
    EH315 Africa and the World Economy

    GV227 The Politics of Economic Policy
    GY201 Locational Change and Business Activity
    GY300 Theories of Regional Development and Change
    IR304 The Politics of International Economic Relations
    LL209 Commercial Law
    MA212 ( currently 200 +201)
    Further Mathematical Methods (Calculus/Linear Algebra)
    MA300 Game Theory
    OR202 or 301 Operational Research Methods or Model Building in Operational Research



    Which ones are recorded?
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    FM300 and MA300 aren't.

    EC321 and EC325 are.

    That's the modules I'm choosing, not sure about the rest.

    You can go to Moodle and see which ones are recorded.
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    It often changes depending on the lecturers' moods, but just to add to the list EC301 and EC319 are + MA200 and MA201 were last year (not this year I think). EC303 might be as well.

    Just go on Moodle now and check for the courses you're interested in...
    Last edited by Swayum; 05-06-2012 at 16:13.
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    I can confirm that MA200 +MA201 were NOT recorded this year. (but that may change next year if they see that people got worse grades as a result)

    Further, it is departmental policy for the Finance Department not to record lectures. So all the FM modules won't be recorded.
    Last edited by bt_1000; 06-06-2012 at 15:13.
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    (Original post by Swayum)
    It often changes depending on the lecturers' moods, but just to add to the list EC301 and EC319 are + MA200 and MA201 were last year (not this year I think). EC303 might be as well.

    Just go on Moodle now and check for the courses you're interested in...
    Hi Swayum,

    I checked the Moodle page for both EC301 and EC319. It seems EC301 only has recorded lectures for Michaelmas Term, and EC319 has no recorded lectures at all....?
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    (Original post by goldsilvy)
    FM300 and MA300 aren't.

    EC321 and EC325 are.

    That's the modules I'm choosing, not sure about the rest.

    You can go to Moodle and see which ones are recorded.
    Hi Gold Silvy,

    Is there any way to download the lectures? All I can seem to do is load up the Echo page and watch the lecture, but is there any way to download the lecture video?
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    (Original post by 6pac)
    Hi Gold Silvy,

    Is there any way to download the lectures? All I can seem to do is load up the Echo page and watch the lecture, but is there any way to download the lecture video?
    I don't think you can download lectures off Echo. At least there isn't a straightforward way that I know of. Sorry, mate.
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    (Original post by 6pac)
    Hi Swayum,

    I checked the Moodle page for both EC301 and EC319. It seems EC301 only has recorded lectures for Michaelmas Term, and EC319 has no recorded lectures at all....?
    I just checked it myself - both EC319 terms are recorded online. You just have to go to the calender on the right and find it from there.

    As for EC301 - it's a 15 week course, split into 3 parts (with a different lecturer + class teacher for each part). The first 2 lecturers were happy to record it, but the 3rd lecturer refused to despite all my requests. Still, 2/3 recorded is better than most modules.
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    (Original post by Swayum)
    I just checked it myself - both EC319 terms are recorded online. You just have to go to the calender on the right and find it from there.

    As for EC301 - it's a 15 week course, split into 3 parts (with a different lecturer + class teacher for each part). The first 2 lecturers were happy to record it, but the 3rd lecturer refused to despite all my requests. Still, 2/3 recorded is better than most modules.
    Thanks Swayum!

    How come its only a 15-week course?! As it is only 15 weeks, is it an 'easier' course to do? (i.e higher chance of doing well as there is less material to cover?)

    And yes just checked, they are available to watch off the calendar - but is there no way to download the lectures?

    Thanks
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    (Original post by 6pac)
    Thanks Swayum!

    How come its only a 15-week course?! As it is only 15 weeks, is it an 'easier' course to do? (i.e higher chance of doing well as there is less material to cover?)

    And yes just checked, they are available to watch off the calendar - but is there no way to download the lectures?

    Thanks
    It's definitely easier in the sense that there's a lot less content to it (it's not even 15 weeks, it's more like 12 weeks because the first week for each part of the course is not examinable, each first week is just introductory material on real life economics, e.g. what central banks have been doing during crises), but the course is actually pretty tough. It's supposed to be a bridge between undergrad and Masters level Economics (each topic covered in EC301 is usually covered in Masters courses), hence why they made it 15 weeks to make it fair. It's not like macro where you learn a model in lectures, apply it in the problem set and get a similar question in the exam.

    You learn something fairly tough in lectures which is not straightforward to understand in the first place (but definitely doable), then the problem set will completely change that model and ask you to derive a new one (you'll never get the problem set right on your first attempt), and then the exam will just be a harder version of all of that combined (easier in some places so you can get 40%...).

    EC301, EC307, EC309 and EC319 are probably the 4 hardest Economics modules (obviously no one can be sure about such things as no one's studied all modules/different people are better at different things, but that's the general feeling I've gathered over the last 3 years). I think Behavioural will be really tough as well, it used to be briefly covered in EC301 as a 4th part but then they made EC301 just a 3 part course.

    I don't know any direct way of downloading lectures in this new Echo system, you definitely used to be able to back in the day. There are probably 3rd party programs out there which let you grab videos off websites, maybe one of them will work with Echo? I dunno.
    Last edited by Swayum; 20-06-2012 at 07:25.
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    Re: Which 3rd Year Modules for BSc Econ are recorded?
    (Original post by Swayum)
    It's definitely easier in the sense that there's a lot less content to it (it's not even 15 weeks, it's more like 12 weeks because the first week for each part of the course is not examinable, each first week is just introductory material on real life economics, e.g. what central banks have been doing during crises), but the course is actually pretty tough. It's supposed to be a bridge between undergrad and Masters level Economics (each topic covered in EC301 is usually covered in Masters courses), hence why they made it 15 weeks to make it fair. It's not like macro where you learn a model in lectures, apply it in the problem set and get a similar question in the exam.

    You learn something fairly tough in lectures which is not straightforward to understand in the first place (but definitely doable), then the problem set will completely change that model and ask you to derive a new one (you'll never get the problem set right on your first attempt), and then the exam will just be a harder version of all of that combined (easier in some places so you can get 40%...).

    EC301, EC307, EC309 and EC319 are probably the 4 hardest Economics modules (obviously no one can be sure about such things as no one's studied all modules/different people are better at different things, but that's the general feeling I've gathered over the last 3 years). I think Behavioural will be really tough as well, it used to be briefly covered in EC301 as a 4th part but then they made EC301 just a 3 part course.

    I don't know any direct way of downloading lectures in this new Echo system, you definitely used to be able to back in the day. There are probably 3rd party programs out there which let you grab videos off websites, maybe one of them will work with Echo? I dunno.
    I believe I have just been swayed :P

    Is EC301 very 'mathsy' (like EC201/202) or more 'conceptual' like EC210?

    And to flip it on its head, which would you say are the 4 'easiest' 3rd year modules? (taking into account that there is no perfect way of establishing which modules are 'harder'/'easier')

    I guess a good way of deciding how 'easy' a module is, is by seeing how repetitive the questions on the exam paper are year in year out, so which modules would you say are 'easier' under this interpretation of 'easy'?
    Last edited by 6pac; 21-06-2012 at 00:52.
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    (Original post by 6pac)
    I believe I have just been swayed :P

    Is EC301 very 'mathsy' (like EC201/202) or more 'conceptual' like EC210?
    It's definitely a lot more like EC202 than EC201, but I'd say it has the flavour of EC210. Basically, it's like EC210 with mathematical models. You will be using Lagrange optimisation non-stop in virtually every topic. It's not hard maths though, it's more like annoying maths (lots of algebra basically that you could have done as an A-level student, the only maths beyond that is using Lagrange optimisation, which is fairly simple after you've done it once). I wouldn't be worried about the maths, but it is definitely used extensively. It's a lot less heavy on notation than EC202, which makes the maths slightly easier in EC301.

    You can download the EC301 lectures btw - just click the link to the recordings (near the top of the Moodle page - in section 1) and then there's a link to the Vodcast: click it and then hit download media file. There's a good chance it won't be recorded next year (it wasn't really planned to be recorded this year either, one of the lecturers just decided to because there was a clash with another course and then the second lecturer just went with it).

    And to flip it on its head, which would you say are the 4 'easiest' 3rd year modules? (taking into account that there is no perfect way of establishing which modules are 'harder'/'easier')
    I have no idea really, I've never really properly considered any of the 3rd year EC modules except Development and EC301 (and my friends' opinions are unreliable regarding this point).

    Vaguely though: Public and International are both really popular choices... I don't think either is 'hard', they're basically average. Monetary is pretty hard I've heard from several people. Economic Policy Analysis had a really easy exam this year, but that's probably because this was the first year the course was being run. Political Economy I've heard is fairly doable from 2 people.

    I guess a good way of deciding how 'easy' a module is, is by seeing how repetitive the questions on the exam paper are year in year out, so which modules would you say are 'easier' under this interpretation of 'easy'?
    This is exactly correct.

    As I say though, I don't really know which EC ones are like that, but if that's what you're looking for, go for MA and/or ST modules. For instance, at least 80% (probably like 90% in fact) of the MA313 exam this year was copied and pasted from past papers - I don't even mean SIMILAR to past papers, I mean literally copied and pasted without even the numbers changed around. Definitely don't pick MA313 as an Economics student, but do consider MA modules if you're looking for repetitive exams.

    Another easy option is to do second year stats modules that have coursework - it's called something like Sample Surveys and Experiments. There's an exam involved too but I've heard it's easy. If you work hard, I would assume the coursework shouldn't be too bad either.

    People claim OR202 is easy which is why so many people do it, but the OR202 exam has been made pretty hard now (for 2 years) and it's not exactly dealing with 'soft' topics in the first place either - I'd avoid it.
    Last edited by Swayum; 21-06-2012 at 11:07.
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