Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?
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Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?I was just wondering if medical schools in london were particularly hard to get in to? And if it varies, which uni's are and which aren't?
When I say 'particularly hard', i mean do they require:
higher UKCAT/BMAT results than usual, GCSE results as high as Birmingham's requirements, and plenty of A*'s at A level?
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?They're just as tough as other medical schools but it may be perceived that they are more competitive because of the whole "everyone applies to London schools". As far as I know, none of the medical schools in London require A*s at A level, It's beneficial for Barts though. Kings require lots of A*s at GCSE although less A*s can be balanced by a very high UKCAT score. Barts go by UCAS tariff and a UKCAT cut-off of 600 so the more subjects you do at AS and A2 achieving good grades, the better shot at getting an interview. Imperial is very much down to the BMAT using a cut-off system to shortlist applicants for interview. UCL apparently look at the application as a whole and don't have a set BMAT cut-off. St Georges interview everyone who meets the GCSE requirements, A level predictions and a UKCAT above the cut off (was 625 this year).(Original post by l2ob)
I was just wondering if medical schools in london were particularly hard to get in to? And if it varies, which uni's are and which aren't?
When I say 'particularly hard', i mean do they require:
higher UKCAT/BMAT results than usual, GCSE results as high as Birmingham's requirements, and plenty of A*'s at A level?
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?sorry what are GEP's?(Original post by Democracy)
The GEPs for sure, the A100 programmes probably less so. -
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?Graduate entry programmes in medicine. Anyway, all the schools have different admissions policies (which you can download from their websites), so I'm not sure there's a fair way to see if one school is "easier" or "harder" to get into than another. If you have very few A*s at GCSE you'll find it easier to get an interview BL than Birmingham but that doesn't mean getting into BL is easy full stop! It all depends really.(Original post by l2ob)
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?so it's only Imperial and UCL which require BMAT? And as you probably know passing music exams, for example grade 8 piano, give you UCAS points (...i think...). If they were to make my UCAS score high, would they consider me as much as another person with the same UCAS points, but gaining these points from doing say 5 subjects?(Original post by myyrh)
They're just as tough as other medical schools but it may be perceived that they are more competitive because of the whole "everyone applies to London schools". As far as I know, none of the medical schools in London require A*s at A level, It's beneficial for Barts though. Kings require lots of A*s at GCSE although less A*s can be balanced by a very high UKCAT score. Barts go by UCAS tariff and a UKCAT cut-off of 600 so the more subjects you do at AS and A2 achieving good grades, the better shot at getting an interview. Imperial is very much down to the BMAT using a cut-off system to shortlist applicants for interview. UCL apparently look at the application as a whole and don't have a set BMAT cut-off. St Georges interview everyone who meets the GCSE requirements, A level predictions and a UKCAT above the cut off (was 625 this year). -
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?oh and thanks you very much for your info twas really helpful(Original post by myyrh)
They're just as tough as other medical schools but it may be perceived that they are more competitive because of the whole "everyone applies to London schools". As far as I know, none of the medical schools in London require A*s at A level, It's beneficial for Barts though. Kings require lots of A*s at GCSE although less A*s can be balanced by a very high UKCAT score. Barts go by UCAS tariff and a UKCAT cut-off of 600 so the more subjects you do at AS and A2 achieving good grades, the better shot at getting an interview. Imperial is very much down to the BMAT using a cut-off system to shortlist applicants for interview. UCL apparently look at the application as a whole and don't have a set BMAT cut-off. St Georges interview everyone who meets the GCSE requirements, A level predictions and a UKCAT above the cut off (was 625 this year).
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?Every offer will specify grades. When I was applying UCL said "360 UCAS points" but everybody was given AABe offers.(Original post by l2ob)
so it's only Imperial and UCL which require BMAT? And as you probably know passing music exams, for example grade 8 piano, give you UCAS points (...i think...). If they were to make my UCAS score high, would they consider me as much as another person with the same UCAS points, but gaining these points from doing say 5 subjects?
Grade 8 piano will look good on your application I guess. Problem is everybody knows the university can't/ won't check and you get a lot of people making those sorts of things up which waters down the achievement. -
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?Yep only those two. Yes as long as it's listed on your UCAS application and if you're sure that it counts for UCAS points then it will add to your tariff. Yeah points are points, they aren't too fussed about where they come from provided you have the required subjects as well.(Original post by l2ob)
so it's only Imperial and UCL which require BMAT? And as you probably know passing music exams, for example grade 8 piano, give you UCAS points (...i think...). If they were to make my UCAS score high, would they consider me as much as another person with the same UCAS points, but gaining these points from doing say 5 subjects? -
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I would say the barts and the london is quite difficult to get into, because they now want AAA +50 UCAS TARRIF POINTS. Which can be a fourth A level, but they have low GCSE Requirements. 3 A's and 3B's to include English Language maths and Science. They do not accept candidates who retake even if there's an extenuating circumstances that may affect a candidate. There is a resit policies on TSR. Other ones I do not remember off the top of my head
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?kay thanks, will GCE in a fourth subject cover these UCAS tariff points? But besides that it's not particularly difficult to get in? thanks(Original post by muzakir)
I would say the barts and the london is quite difficult to get into, because they now want AAA +50 UCAS TARRIF POINTS. Which can be a fourth A level, but they have low GCSE Requirements. 3 A's and 3B's to include English Language maths and Science. They do not accept candidates who retake even if there's an extenuating circumstances that may affect a candidate. There is a resit policies on TSR. Other ones I do not remember off the top of my head
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?also say I applied last year, if I got 630, that wouldn't mean I'd get an interview would it? Cut off just means you're just not considered for an interview right? tar(Original post by myyrh)
They're just as tough as other medical schools but it may be perceived that they are more competitive because of the whole "everyone applies to London schools". As far as I know, none of the medical schools in London require A*s at A level, It's beneficial for Barts though. Kings require lots of A*s at GCSE although less A*s can be balanced by a very high UKCAT score. Barts go by UCAS tariff and a UKCAT cut-off of 600 so the more subjects you do at AS and A2 achieving good grades, the better shot at getting an interview. Imperial is very much down to the BMAT using a cut-off system to shortlist applicants for interview. UCL apparently look at the application as a whole and don't have a set BMAT cut-off. St Georges interview everyone who meets the GCSE requirements, A level predictions and a UKCAT above the cut off (was 625 this year). -
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?Which medical school are you referring to?(Original post by l2ob)
also say I applied last year, if I got 630, that wouldn't mean I'd get an interview would it? Cut off just means you're just not considered for an interview right? tar -
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Yes you can get the ucas tarriff from ucas website. I would actually say of you follow the advice then not as difficult. You also need to get a total of 2400 in UKCAT(Original post by l2ob)
kay thanks, will GCE in a fourth subject cover these UCAS tariff points? But besides that it's not particularly difficult to get in? thanks
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?Georges(Original post by myyrh)
Which medical school are you referring to?
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?King's ask you to bring in certificates of everything on your UCAS form, so they can and do check!(Original post by Llamageddon)
Every offer will specify grades. When I was applying UCL said "360 UCAS points" but everybody was given AABe offers.
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Re: Are medical schools in london particularly hard to get in to?Yep, it looks like no students with 3 A levels and 1 AS level managed to get an interview last year - not even with A*A*A*a. A high number of qualifications like AABAb (inc GS for example) would have got you in. A very strange policy as many of the strongest applicants are being disadvantaged by the use of Ucas tarrif points.(Original post by muzakir)
I would say the barts and the london is quite difficult to get into, because they now want AAA +50 UCAS TARRIF POINTS. Which can be a fourth A level, but they have low GCSE Requirements. 3 A's and 3B's to include English Language maths and Science. They do not accept candidates who retake even if there's an extenuating circumstances that may affect a candidate. There is a resit policies on TSR. Other ones I do not remember off the top of my head
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