[Indian_Princess]

well those who suffer in this world are more likely to get rewarded in the next.. the Prophet (pbuh) said that when he looked into paradise he saw that the majority were poor people.. so at the end of the day everyone will come to justice as God is Most Just.

[A Perfect Circle]

(Original post by Cake Faced Kid.)
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God placed those contradictions in the Bible intentionally to create this beautiful pattern.

It's further proof of intelligent design you see.

[someonesomewherexx]

To test the faith of believers.

Surely God must realise that in testing the faith of believers, unbelievers suffer along with them despite the fact they've got no faith in him (earthquakes, floods e.t.c). But he's God so he can do whatever he pleases

This has being going around facebook for a while now.It's something like:

If you're going through a difficult time, remember that a teacher stays silent during a class test..

[LightofTruth7]

(Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
That doesn't answer my question. How is it then that those who suffer all their lives and go to heaven get justice if those who lived a life of luxury and never suffered go to heaven as well?


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Sin seperates us from God

God wants to save all of us

He sometimes makes us suffer - To bring us closer to Him

We can't tell, just by looking at someones lifestyle - Whether they are suffering or not

We can't see into each others Hearts - Only Jesus can do that

[EonBlueApocalypse]

The answer the you want is in the question that you state.

[concubine]

(Original post by LightofTruth7)
Sin seperates us from God

God wants to save all of us

He sometimes makes us suffer - To bring us closer to Him

We can't tell, just by looking at someones lifestyle - Whether they are suffering or not

We can't see into each others Hearts - Only Jesus can do that

I hate that people believe this nonsense.



If you believe in him, and believe that he's all powerful, he obviously doesn't want to save us. So he's a dick. Make up your ****ing mind.


Either he's great and can do whatever he wants, or he's not. And if he's not, why worship him?

[Leon Trotsky]

The argument that there's evil because we have free will is a bad way to counter the argument that if there's a God then he's evil. If God is omnipotent and can do literally anything, why can't he grant us free will and freedom from suffering?

[RandZul'Zorander]

(Original post by LightofTruth7)
Sin seperates us from God

God wants to save all of us

He sometimes makes us suffer - To bring us closer to Him

We can't tell, just by looking at someones lifestyle - Whether they are suffering or not

We can't see into each others Hearts - Only Jesus can do that

I see so god wants to save all of us but doesn't mind us suffering which can be said to be objectively bad. Right that makes sense

I wasn't talking about lifestyle. I clarified luxury in this instance to mean someone who had never suffered.

Now both this person and the one who suffered their entire life can get to heaven. Explain the justice in that and why that is ok.


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[Dominic101]

lol some people need to do gcse r.e

[Cake Faced Kid.]

(Original post by A Perfect Circle)
God placed those contradictions in the Bible intentionally to create this beautiful pattern.

It's further proof of intelligent design you see.

Intelligent? They just seem like silly mistakes, not 'intelligent design.

For example:

3- Genesis 2:3 "God got tired so had a rest in the seventh day"
Isahah 40:28 "God never get tired or sick"

8- Exodus 33:11 "Moses talked to God, face to face"
Exodus 33:20 "God told Moses that he can never see his face"

9- Genesis 46-21 "Binyamin's sons were 10"
Day's news 1-7:6 " Binyamin's sons were 3"
Day's news 11-2 "Binyamin sons were 5"

17- Double 3:14 "Ja'eir was the son of Manse"
Days news 2:22 "Ja'eir was the son of Sejoub"

Intelligent In my opinion, it just proves that the bible was written by different people who did not know each other. Good story tellers, told by word of mouth, spread around and eventually written down.

I just don't see how people can place so much faith in something of which they have no proof.

And besides, the Bible is outdated, surpisingly enough.

Eg, look at Leviticus, chapter 20
If we are going to follow what God/the author says, we are supposed to kill everyone who has cursed his father or mother, everyone who has committed adultery, and every homosexual.
You may argue that this is the old part, the old testament, which doesn't really apply. Are you saying that God, the all knowing, once wanted us to kill every adulterer and homosexual, but then changed his mind? That somehow makes it better?

You may then want to turn to Exodus, chapter 21.
I'm not going to write the whole thing down, you can look it up yourself, but it openly advocates the use of slaves, and states that you are free to beat slaves. How incredibly loving and fair of your God.

I could go on, but i won't, as I have made my point.

[shyamshah]

(Original post by Dominic101)
lol some people need to do gcse r.e

I did GCSE RS but we didn't learn about this.

[LightofTruth7]

(Original post by Indian_Princess)
well those who suffer in this world are more likely to get rewarded in the next.. the Prophet (pbuh) said that when he looked into paradise he saw that the majority were poor people.. so at the end of the day everyone will come to justice as God is Most Just.

According to the Quran - Paradise will be full of beautiful, fair young virgins, ready to satisfy the rampant sexual desires of muslim men.

What's in it for the Women?

The teachings of Islam are Satans seduction, aimed specifically at MANS weak nature

WAKE UP tO THE TRUTH

[A Perfect Circle]

(Original post by Cake Faced Kid.)
Intelligent? They just seem like silly mistakes, not 'intelligent design.

For example:

3- Genesis 2:3 "God got tired so had a rest in the seventh day"
Isahah 40:28 "God never get tired or sick"

8- Exodus 33:11 "Moses talked to God, face to face"
Exodus 33:20 "God told Moses that he can never see his face"

9- Genesis 46-21 "Binyamin's sons were 10"
Day's news 1-7:6 " Binyamin's sons were 3"
Day's news 11-2 "Binyamin sons were 5"

17- Double 3:14 "Ja'eir was the son of Manse"
Days news 2:22 "Ja'eir was the son of Sejoub"

Intelligent In my opinion, it just proves that the bible was written by different people who did not know each other. Good story tellers, told by word of mouth, spread around and eventually written down.

I just don't see how people can place so much faith in something of which they have no proof.

And besides, the Bible is outdated, surpisingly enough.

Eg, look at Leviticus, chapter 20
If we are going to follow what God/the author says, we are supposed to kill everyone who has cursed his father or mother, everyone who has committed adultery, and every homosexual.
You may argue that this is the old part, the old testament, which doesn't really apply. Are you saying that God, the all knowing, once wanted us to kill every adulterer and homosexual, but then changed his mind? That somehow makes it better?

You may then want to turn to Exodus, chapter 21.
I'm not going to write the whole thing down, you can look it up yourself, but it openly advocates the use of slaves, and states that you are free to beat slaves. How incredibly loving and fair of your God.

I could go on, but i won't, as I have made my point.

lol I'm an atheist dear - we're in agreement.

My fault for attempting sarcasm on the internet to be fair. I feel both guilty and impressed at the lengths you went to in your response

(Original post by rocco94)
I'm sorry but the (endless) contradictions in the bible prove one thing: It is NOT the word of God - how can such a glorified and exalted being fall prone to such weakness? The answer is he doesn't he is above all weakness thus proving that the Bible is not the word of God.

Muahaha another victim of my poor sarcasm

[Miss Trololol]

If God really does exist then I don't like him at all. He's got a lot to answer for.

[Indian_Princess]

(Original post by LightofTruth7)
According to the Quran - Paradise will be full of beautiful, fair young virgins, ready to satisfy the rampant sexual desires of muslim men.

What's in it for the Women?

The teachings of Islam are Satans seduction, aimed specifically at MANS weak nature

WAKE UP tO THE TRUTH

what's in it for women? they can get whatever they desire in heaven.. so there's a lot in it for women.

[E.Blackadder]

why i don't like these kinds of questions is because they are only asking for fictional answers. if the bible is internally consistent you might get an answer to the question, however the answer means nothing.

if you read harry potter and then asked "if magic is real why aren't the good magicians using it to fix the worlds problems?" now there might be an answer to that question, but does it really mean magic exists? it only exists within the fictional universe of the book.

even if you manage to get a believer to admit god allows evil to happen, it doesn't negate the existence of god. so you will always end back at square one.

[LightofTruth7]

(Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
I see so god wants to save all of us but doesn't mind us suffering which can be said to be objectively bad. Right that makes sense

I wasn't talking about lifestyle. I clarified luxury in this instance to mean someone who had never suffered.

Now both this person and the one who suffered their entire life can get to heaven. Explain the justice in that and why that is ok.


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Yes - God wants to save us all and ...
He doesn't mind us suffering. For instance a loving father who is trying to teach his stubborn son how to behave correctly - Has to chastise him

That is how our "Loving Father" chastises us - ultimately for our own good
Because He wants us to go to Heaven

The path to Heaven is VERY narrow. In order to get there we have to suffer many trials and tribulations ( in joy).

I don't believe that anyone that gets to Heaven has never suffered

[Cake Faced Kid.]

(Original post by A Perfect Circle)
lol I'm an atheist dear - we're in agreement.

My fault for attempting sarcasm on the internet to be fair. I feel both guilty and impressed at the lengths you went to in your response

Haa, it's cool, religion just makes me cross :')

[E.Blackadder]

(Original post by LightofTruth7)
Yes - God wants to save us all and ...
He doesn't mind us suffering. For instance a loving father who is trying to teach his stubborn son how to behave correctly - Has to chastise him

That is how our "Loving Father" chastises us - ultimately for our own good
Because He wants us to go to Heaven

The path to Heaven is VERY narrow. In order to get there we have to suffer many trials and tribulations ( in joy).

I don't believe that anyone that gets to Heaven has never suffered

yeah about that. you might want to look into the disparity of living conditions across the world. punishing black babies is corrective behaviour for rich white people how?

[Above.The.Empyrean]

You'll be notified with a plethora of irrational and illogical answers. Any topic regarding God will NEVER be answered. Logic and rhetoric for these subject-matters are only tautological and pleonastic.