How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?
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How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?There's not point fooling around, half of our population are complete morons going around either stabbing, acting like fools, getting pregnant or sitting on their backsides all day wanting to win games shows to earn a living. If they do want a job its to be a footballer or popstar- not something proper/worthwhile to society.
How do we fix the whole social/cultural problem?
Do we stop immigration because its diluting what the British way is?
Do we get extremely tough on benefits? No more of this sympathy crap, if you have more kids whilst on benefits they get taken away from you.
Do we make the unemployed do USEFUL training courses?
Could we fully subsidise GCSE Maths and English courses at night school to improve employability?
Stop the political correctness and positive discrimination?
Make sure benefits pay less than the lowest earners?
Celebrate success like Americans do and not tell people they cant aspire to their dreams.
Stop celebrating celebrity culture and instead encourage people to aspire to jobs like nurses, teachers, engineers, doctors, carpenters, builders etc
(bet this was a shock for those of you who think im right wing!)Last edited by billydisco; 03-06-2012 at 13:38. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Someone woke up on the wrong side of their bed today.(Original post by billydisco)
There's not point fooling around, half of our population are complete morons going around either stabbing, acting like fools, getting pregnant or sitting on their backsides all day wanting to win games shows.
How do we fix the whole social/cultural problem?
Do we stop immigration because its diluting what the British way is?
Do we get extremely tough on benefits? No more of this sympathy crap, if you have more kids whilst on benefits they get taken away from you.
Do we make the unemployed do USEFUL training courses?
Could we fully subsidise GCSE Maths and English courses at night school to improve employability?
Stop the political correctness and positive discrimination
Celebrate success like Americans do and not tell people they cant aspire to their dreams.
Stop celebrating celebrity culture and instead encourage people to aspire to jobs like nurses, teachers, engineers, doctors, carpenters, builders etc
(bet this was a shock for those of you who think im right wing!)
Since you are talking absolute dribble i will develop my own policy.
WE NEED TO LOWER THE PRICE OF FISH AND CHIPS ALL THEM GOD DAMN IMMIGRANTS INCREASING THE PRICES OF IT AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE GETTING BENEFITS MAKING COD PRICES GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. MAKE BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN WITH CHEAP FISH AND CHIPS!! -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?I wonder if England has always been full of scum like that, but just had a very good top-tier leadership and manipulated the commoners into working very well for them.(Original post by billydisco)
There's not point fooling around, half of our population are complete morons going around either stabbing, acting like fools, getting pregnant or sitting on their backsides all day wanting to win games shows.
How do we fix the whole social/cultural problem?
Do we stop immigration because its diluting what the British way is?
Do we get extremely tough on benefits? No more of this sympathy crap, if you have more kids whilst on benefits they get taken away from you.
Do we make the unemployed do USEFUL training courses?
Could we fully subsidise GCSE Maths and English courses at night school to improve employability?
Stop the political correctness and positive discrimination?
Make sure benefits pay less than the lowest earners?
Celebrate success like Americans do and not tell people they cant aspire to their dreams.
Stop celebrating celebrity culture and instead encourage people to aspire to jobs like nurses, teachers, engineers, doctors, carpenters, builders etc
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?I had the idea that in order to control our over crowded population, if you want to receive child benefits for your kids, then you shouldn't receive anything more per child after your second child.
It seems that these days, people are just having more children to get more money from the government.
I obviously wouldn't impose this on existing large families, but if you want a large family in the future, then you must provide for them yourself. I don't believe it is fair to expect the state to pay for that.
And LIVING benefits should only be paid to those who really cannot work. The idea is that benefits were supposed to be a safety net, not a way of life.
FINALLY, over the past few decades, a stigma has been created in this country where the only 'socially acceptable' jobs are those within the service industry, and manufacturing jobs have been stigmatised. But we forget that nearly 40% of our labour force were trained in Manufacturing, and were pretty damn good at it too! But now because of the Thatcher government and then the Blair gov, we have created an economy that is overly concentrated on services. We need to restructure and retrain so that Britain can be a net world exporter again, whilst keeping many more people in work.
This country has definitely lost it's way after year's of mis-management. Everyone could see it, but times were too good to even bother saying anything. And now look at the mess we're in!Last edited by Jackmaxwell; 03-06-2012 at 13:42. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Surely the top two contradict each other. The only way the people in question are able to reach the "American" level of success by which I assume you mean rich in terms of material possession, is to win the lottery/ game shows. By idealising being extremely rich, you diminish the importance of the every day professions, and exaggerate the importance of celebrity culture, which is often considered success in the American form.(Original post by billydisco)
sitting on their backsides all day wanting to win games shows to earn a living
Celebrate success like Americans do and not tell people they cant aspire to their dreams.
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Well I remember in the 2010 general election one of David Cameron's slogans was that the Conservatives were going to "Fix Broken Britain".
How is that going, is Britain less broken than it was when he became PM? I'm sure that will be a question that he gets asked in the next election. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Britain isn't that bad. It just seems it's worse than it used to because media is more advanced and so these things can't be covered up as much.
Britain has always been 'diluted' the Romans, Vikings, Anglo Saxons weren't originally British you know? It's highly unlikely you'll find someone with 'pure' British heritage.
Harsher benefits? You think letting people starve to death and more homelessness will make Britain look better?
Benefits are already worth less than the minimum wage.
I'd love to stop celebrity culture and have people with real jobs be more celebrated but that's something out of our control.
Would the neggers care to explain what was wrong with this post?Last edited by Beebumble; 03-06-2012 at 20:40. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?(Original post by billydisco)
Celebrate success like Americans do and not tell people they cant aspire to their dreams.(Original post by billydisco)
If they do want a job its to be a footballer or popstar- not something proper/worthwhile to society.
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(bet this was a shock for those of you who think im right wing!)No, actually, it looked quite right-wing.(Original post by billydisco)
Do we stop immigration because its diluting what the British way is?
Do we get extremely tough on benefits? No more of this sympathy crap, if you have more kids whilst on benefits they get taken away from you.
Stop the political correctness and positive discrimination?
Make sure benefits pay less than the lowest earners? -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?'Ours (our army) is composed of the scum of the earth - the mere scum of the earth.'(Original post by billydisco)
There's not point fooling around, half of our population are complete morons going around either stabbing, acting like fools, getting pregnant or sitting on their backsides all day wanting to win games shows to earn a living. If they do want a job its to be a footballer or popstar- not something proper/worthwhile to society.
How do we fix the whole social/cultural problem?
Do we stop immigration because its diluting what the British way is?
Do we get extremely tough on benefits? No more of this sympathy crap, if you have more kids whilst on benefits they get taken away from you.
Do we make the unemployed do USEFUL training courses?
Could we fully subsidise GCSE Maths and English courses at night school to improve employability?
Stop the political correctness and positive discrimination?
Make sure benefits pay less than the lowest earners?
Celebrate success like Americans do and not tell people they cant aspire to their dreams.
Stop celebrating celebrity culture and instead encourage people to aspire to jobs like nurses, teachers, engineers, doctors, carpenters, builders etc
(bet this was a shock for those of you who think im right wing!)
-Wellington. And the British army, while not conscripted, was a fairly good representation of British society. A few officers to make it look fancy, but most of the people were similar in many respects to those that you're angry with today. You're making that typical assumption that the past is always better. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?So once these new rules are in place, and we're refusing to pay benefits after the second child - what do we do if someone does end up having 20 children and finding that they're unable to feed all of them? Just let 18 of them starve?(Original post by Jackmaxwell)
I had the idea that in order to control our over crowded population, if you want to receive child benefits for your kids, then you shouldn't receive anything more per child after your second child.
It seems that these days, people are just having more children to get more money from the government.
I obviously wouldn't impose this on existing large families, but if you want a large family in the future, then you must provide for them yourself. I don't believe it is fair to expect the state to pay for that. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Quite, I think back in the day (1800s) there were jobs for these type of people (sailors spring to mind) but nowadays there just isn't anything for them to do..... so now they just cause trouble socially.(Original post by NB_ide)
I wonder if England has always been full of scum like that, but just had a very good top-tier leadership and manipulated the commoners into working very well for them.
In the past there was a use for "less skilled" people, but the economy we have today, there just isnt anything for them unless they magically become well qualified. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Why do some people feel it's necessary to go backwards in order to progress? I can't think of a period in history where Britain was 'great' all round - society has always had ills, from the top to the bottom. We need to move forwards, not backwards.
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?No dreams does not mean materialistic wealth. I think there is too much materialistic desire.(Original post by Alistair122)
Surely the top two contradict each other. The only way the people in question are able to reach the "American" level of success by which I assume you mean rich in terms of material possession, is to win the lottery/ game shows. By idealising being extremely rich, you diminish the importance of the every day professions, and exaggerate the importance of celebrity culture, which is often considered success in the American form. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?We both know the damage was not going to get fixed in 5 years.(Original post by MagicNMedicine)
Well I remember in the 2010 general election one of David Cameron's slogans was that the Conservatives were going to "Fix Broken Britain".
How is that going, is Britain less broken than it was when he became PM? I'm sure that will be a question that he gets asked in the next election.
The budget cuts are to ensure we can keep our AAA credit rating and hence we dont become bankrupt!
No austerity cuts, no Government borrowing and thus less money for all the socialists to spend on pointless rubbish. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?People should not be having kids whilst on benefits.(Original post by Beebumble)
Harsher benefits? You think letting people starve to death and more homelessness will make Britain look better?
Benefits are already worth less than the minimum wage.
Teenagers should not be having children unless they have the money to support them.
A single mum can expect to receive 19.5k in benefits (I worked it out on a website last night)....... £20k for doing NOTHING except getting pregnant.
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?There was a great article in the Economist about this last year: http://www.economist.com/blogs/bageh...hits-britain-0(Original post by kersme)
'Ours (our army) is composed of the scum of the earth - the mere scum of the earth.'
-Wellington. And the British army, while not conscripted, was a fairly good representation of British society. A few officers to make it look fancy, but most of the people were similar in many respects to those that you're angry with today. You're making that typical assumption that the past is always better. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?If what you are saying is correct, unemployment would be 50%.(Original post by billydisco)
There's not point fooling around, half of our population are complete morons going around either stabbing, acting like fools, getting pregnant or sitting on their backsides all day wanting to win games shows to earn a living. If they do want a job its to be a footballer or popstar- not something proper/worthwhile to society.
Is it? No. Latest figures put it at 8.2%. Fail.
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Adoption- there are better alternatives to the natural parents!(Original post by tazarooni89)
So once these new rules are in place, and we're refusing to pay benefits after the second child - what do we do if someone does end up having 20 children and finding that they're unable to feed all of them? Just let 18 of them starve?
