How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Wanna know the scary thing? I dont read newspapers and I RARELY visit the daily mail website.(Original post by MrHappy_J)
Liar, the vast majority of Britons aren't like that. You're influenced too much by the media
This is all through my own eyes of how the underclass live and observing people.
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Are you insulting the five pages-worth of people who have replied?(Original post by concubine)
Out of curiosity, do you genuinely expect any intelligent person to read past this? >_> -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?errr and the state don't pay for everything for a family on benefits who don't work?(Original post by Beebumble)
It also costs far more money to keep someone in care because the state is paying for everything they need instead of just subsidising it.
Keep handing out benefits: families will have more kids they cant afford. More money given to them per child.
Stop benefits and take the children, less children born, more money saved and more money spend on caring after them.
We could house them in "boarding schools" similar to private schools where they could be encouraged to learn sport, music, drama in the evenings and keep them off the street. Get them to do activities together so that they feel they have a family. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Britain will be great. All we need to do is make pre-emptive nuke strikes on Russia, America and China, and we will reign supreme. We may have to colonise New Zealand for the first 1000 years or so while the radiation wears off mind.
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?replies in bold.(Original post by billydisco)
errr and the state don't pay for everything for a family on benefits who don't work?A child will be in care a lot longer than someone on benefits. Also most people who claim benefits are on income support and working. So no the state does not pay for everything.
Keep handing out benefits: families will have more kids they cant afford. More money given to them per child.Would it help if I put it in capitals BABIES ARE EXPENSIVE. IF YOU HAVE A BABY FOR BENEFITS YOU'RE VERY STUPID BECAUSE YOU'LL END UP LOSING MONEY AND MOST BENEFITS YOU CAN CLAIM WITHOUT A CHILD.
Stop benefits and take the children, less children born, more money saved and more money spend on caring after them.Poor families were having children long before benefits. Punishing innocent children for their parents mistakes solve nothing.
We could house them in "boarding schools" similar to private schools where they could be encouraged to learn sport, music, drama in the evenings and keep them off the street. Get them to do activities together so that they feel they have a family. Oh and whose going to pay for that? Boarding schools will let them live their for free will they? The cost involved in this will cost more than benefits. Also what about the emotional damage to the children? Children need their parents it doesn't matter if you managed to put them in a fancy boarding school they're going to grow extremely distressed without a constant adult to love and care for themLast edited by Beebumble; 03-06-2012 at 18:58. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Actually you make a backwards opinion distort 'facts'. I explain what's wrong with your opinions you then fail to comprehend.(Original post by billydisco)
The difference between you and me is when I make an opinion I explain it. You cant do that because..... you know there is no reason.....
I'd call that pretty stupid..... -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?and how exactly did you reach such a figure?(Original post by billydisco)
Wanna know the scary thing? I dont read newspapers and I RARELY visit the daily mail website.
This is all through my own eyes of how the underclass live and observing people.
65% is a vast majority, but that still leaves 35% of a country who are morons.
If you look at government statistics it's 17% of the population who are poor. That doesn't make them morons, by the way. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Take off your rose tinted spectacles perhaps?(Original post by billydisco)
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?If half the population went around stabbing people... the population would be in extreme decline.(Original post by billydisco)
There's not point fooling around, half of our population are complete morons going around either stabbing, acting like fools, getting pregnant or sitting on their backsides all day wanting to win games shows to earn a living. If they do want a job its to be a footballer or popstar- not something proper/worthwhile to society.
First we must establish that there is such a problem.(Original post by billydisco)
How do we fix the whole social/cultural problem?
No. We can't stop immigration altogether because we'd end up with an aging (and thus decreasingly productive) population as the death rate exceeds the birth rate.(Original post by billydisco)
Do we stop immigration because its diluting what the British way is?
And then where do they go?(Original post by billydisco)
Do we get extremely tough on benefits? No more of this sympathy crap, if you have more kids whilst on benefits they get taken away from you.
That I can agree with.(Original post by billydisco)
Do we make the unemployed do USEFUL training courses?
Could we fully subsidise GCSE Maths and English courses at night school to improve employability?
Maybe, but I would say must stories of this are heavily exaggerated.(Original post by billydisco)
Stop the political correctness and positive discrimination?
Make sure benefits pay less than the lowest earners?
Yes.(Original post by billydisco)
Stop celebrating celebrity culture and instead encourage people to aspire to jobs like nurses, teachers, engineers, doctors, carpenters, builders etc
My analysis is that you are. Just a little to the left of some other right-wingers.(Original post by billydisco)
(bet this was a shock for those of you who think im right wing!) -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Sure... I'll just be hanging around at the top of a tower to watch your inauguration... never mind the sniper rifle.(Original post by chefdave)
How can we fix Britain?
Make me dictator for a week, I'll sort things out in no time
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Where did I mention money?(Original post by MrHappy_J)
and how exactly did you reach such a figure?
If you look at government statistics it's 17% of the population who are poor. That doesn't make them morons, by the way.
Or do you think John Terry and his parents aren't part of the underclass? -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?I wouldn't know who John Terry is.(Original post by billydisco)
Where did I mention money?
Or do you think John Terry and his parents aren't part of the underclass?
But in my opinion you've got a massively prejudiced attitude against an entire group of people whose lives you know about very little. Taking children away from their parents unless absolutely necessary is just vile and should never happen. And btw everyone is entitled to child benefit, not just the "underclass".
You probably get your opinions from watching the Jeremy Klye show. Sorry but I don't buy it that you haven't been influenced by the media.
And money has everything to do with it, has it not?Last edited by MrHappy_J; 03-06-2012 at 19:40. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?hahaha thats really funny(Original post by The Socktor)
Sure... I'll just be hanging around at the top of a tower to watch your inauguration... never mind the sniper rifle.
(not sarcastic).... and a little scary D:
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?I hate it when people have this idealistic view of past britian that it is somehow better 50 years ago than it was today.......................... Do you know what I can't even be bothered!
Oh and OP i'm pretty sure positive discrimination is illegal in the UK. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Hehe, there to offer me a customary warm welcome eh?(Original post by The Socktor)
Sure... I'll just be hanging around at the top of a tower to watch your inauguration... never mind the sniper rifle.
Everyone needs their -preferably unarmed- critics. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?The Tories may succeed in cutting the deficit and I hope they do win the next election to stop Labour committing us to economic suicide.(Original post by billydisco)
We both know the damage was not going to get fixed in 5 years.
The budget cuts are to ensure we can keep our AAA credit rating and hence we dont become bankrupt!
No austerity cuts, no Government borrowing and thus less money for all the socialists to spend on pointless rubbish.
I can't think of anything else the Tories want to do that I would agree with though. -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?Oh I know lots about them, having been surrounded by them for over 20 years. How long have you lived amongst them?(Original post by MrHappy_J)
But in my opinion you've got a massively prejudiced attitude against an entire group of people whose lives you know about very little.
No its not. Having children knowing you cant afford them is though.(Original post by MrHappy_J)
Taking children away from their parents unless absolutely necessary is just vile and should never happen.
So you think a working mum who earns £30k a year receives the same amount of benefits as single mum of two kids who doesnt work?(Original post by MrHappy_J)
And btw everyone is entitled to child benefit, not just the "underclass".
Twenty+ years of living with the animals.(Original post by MrHappy_J)
You probably get your opinions from watching the Jeremy Klye show.
As I keep repeating myself, 20+ years of witnessing how the animals behave.(Original post by MrHappy_J)
Sorry but I don't buy it that you haven't been influenced by the media.
No it doesn't- it's someone's behaviour. It just so happens 95% of the underclass are poor- not all poor people are part of the underclass.(Original post by MrHappy_J)
And money has everything to do with it, has it not? -
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Re: How do we fix Britain to be as great as it used to be?You try and lecture me on how society and anthropology works and you don't even know the ex England football captain?(Original post by MrHappy_J)
I wouldn't know who John Terry is.
I would say between the two of us I am the more knowledgeable.
John Terry plays for Chelsea- he is a millionaire, yet his dad was caught selling cocaine in an essex pub and his mum and sister were arrested for shoplifting a supermarket (all whilst john terry was a millionaire).
John Terry is still part of the underclass- money didnt buy him class. You cant put a price to class.
