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  1. M.M.HUSSAIN's Avatar
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    Is it true...?
    Is it true that most of the stuff you learn in GCSEs is all lies?
    And you learn the real stuff in college.
  2. weirdnessandcoffee's Avatar
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    I'd think all types of learning in valuable...even if you do learn lies- if you get what I mean?
    I mean, learning a lie and choosing whether to believe it is interesting in itself
  3. somethingbeautiful's Avatar
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    Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say 'lies' - I learnt things in RS/English/Geography/Music/Art etc that is definitely true. However, when it comes to the sciences - you're taught the basics and in order keep things basic the syllabus has to exclude the more in depth explanations in favor of watered down versions.
  4. harufi's Avatar
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    Some things we were taught in Science at GCSE level was untrue, but thats more to keep things easy enough to understand.
    Our RE teacher put things on our revision sheets like all Christians believe rock music is satanic, which is obviously untrue, but thats more to do with her being a moron than the actual GCSE.
  5. Deziah's Avatar
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    I think lies might be a bit of an exaggeration, haha. But, you're probably taught stuff which isn't the full story, just to keep it basic and ensure that it's friendly for all levels.
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    Re: Is it true...?
    No, you're not informed lies, just diluted renditions of the truth.
    Last edited by Above.The.Empyrean; 04-06-2012 at 18:19.
  7. M.M.HUSSAIN's Avatar
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    can you give any examples of the stuff 'taught differently'?
  8. ThumbsUp's Avatar
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    Re: Is it true...?
    As Einstein once said, '' School interferes with my education'... this thread sums his quote up beautifully
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    Well some of it is much more in-depth in reality and is over-simplified for GCSE. In Chemistry our teacher told us that some of our study on atoms would have to be "untaught" or "unlearnt" were we to study it at A-level. The main reason for this is that the government wants everyone to pass GCSE English, Maths and Science but some people just wouldn't pass if they were studying the actual facts of atoms and atomic structure stuff and I probably would be one of them (I scraped a C in science) but I don't think it's anything you need to worry about.

    It's not lies, it's just over-simplified stuff.
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    It's not necessarily 'lies', but a lot of subject matter is dumbed down quite a lot for obvious reasons. This happens at every stage of education to some extent until you reach higher levels of a degree.

    On an additional note.

    (Original post by weirdnessandcoffee)
    I'd think all types of learning in valuable...even if you do learn lies- if you get what I mean?
    I mean, learning a lie and choosing whether to believe it is interesting in itself
    Are you high?
    Last edited by sicarius1992; 04-06-2012 at 11:51.
  11. The Polymath's Avatar
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    (Original post by M.M.HUSSAIN)
    Is it true that most of the stuff you learn in GCSEs is all lies?
    And you learn the real stuff in college.
    In the Arts, no.
    In the Sciences, to an extent, yes. e.g. in Chemistry GCSE you are told that atoms contain neutrons, protons and electrons and that these cannot be broken down any further. Then you take Physics and you realise that this was all a lie. Chemists then tell you that electrons orbit atoms in shells, and then at A-level they tell you something different about clouds of probability or whatever story they can think of. Then you go to uni and they admit that they really don't have a clue
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    Re: Is it true...?
    no.
  13. Existentialistic's Avatar
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    Re: Is it true...?
    Not really 'lies', just simplifying things for your simple minds.
  14. Bhavvvv's Avatar
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    Its not really lies but its an extremely simpler version because they cannot touch onto the complex stuff yet
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    In GCSE chemistry they lie about the number of electrons that can be in each shell as they tell you it is limited to 8. You can actually have all sorts of weird things like in Francium 17(?) at one point, but they wont tell you that until A Level.
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    It's not necessarily lies. It may be dumbed down but they can't just hit you with the real stuff early on. You need to build up your knowledge. You're given small fractions of the truth and at each level (GCSE to A Level to Uni) you're given a more detailed explanation of it.
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    i wouldnt call it 'lies' persay some of it is over simplified for the purpose of GCSEs an example i remember going from primary school was being told that light only ever travels in straight lines ... we then learnt at GCSE that it in fact does not only travel in straight lines and can be bent ... you learn what is appropriate for your age so theyll simplify it accordingly or simply not go into as much depth
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    (Original post by Above.The.Empyrean)
    Let me be laconic here; everything you learn from others is a lie. The only truth is the truth you seek. The veracity of man lies in our own hearts and minds, not others. Right now, propaganda suppurates the extremities of your soul. ABJURE FROM THIS PUSH-BUTTON ORDER AND BE AN INSURGENT! REBEL! COMMOTION! MAELSTROM AND FURORE! WE NEED THE JANGLING DISCORDS TO BE REJUVENATED! IN THE NAME OF ANARCHY...


    No. You're not informed lies, just extenuated renditions of the truth; otherwise it's too esoteric and complicated for you to apprehend.
    I suggest you check what some of these words mean before you use them again, starting with laconic.
  19. Above.The.Empyrean's Avatar
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    (Original post by Data)
    I suggest you check what some of these words mean before you use them again, starting with laconic.
    Beholden by your malapert propensity: I know.
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    Re: Is it true...?
    (Original post by sicarius1992)
    It's not necessarily 'lies', but a lot of subject matter is dumbed down quite a lot for obvious reasons. This happens at every stage of education to some extent until you reach higher levels of a degree.

    On an additional note.



    Are you high?
    I get high on fizzy drinks...and I had a lot when i was typing it up
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