[Bill_Gates]

Yep im getting on the bandwagon of talking about the queen. Im not going to say if im for her or not but lets look at some facts

1) She can change any law she wants
2) She can oust our current PM's
3) She has top level access to the armed forces, MI5, the police. She can do what she wants.
4) The BBC are up her arse thanks to the tv license which her peasants have to pay. The same with any media institution which has to look after the interests of the rich and powerful and not the common individual.

But its only a matter of time before Charles gets his nose in there and if Charles gets on the charlie? then we are f*****d.

[blueray]

She has power, but I wish she used it in what is moral and what the public REALLY wants.

For instance saying "We shall reduce tuition fees and not only have further education for the rich".

How anyone can disagree with me on this, is just shocking. We had loads of students protesting...yet nothing was done.
Shocking.

If she's the peoples Queen, please Queen do something for us.


Edit it's funny how how someone bellow me can say I don't understand how the system works. I am merely explaining the view of the National Union of Students.

Now if you think they are all wrong, then I think we should ban you instead.

PS they probably have much higher level qualifications than you anyway.
I think you're the one who,
"don't seem to quite grasp how the system works". Just saying.

[Steevee]

(Original post by blueray)
She has power, but I wish she used it.

For instance saying "We shall reduce tuition fees and not only have further education for the rich"

Or "We shall ban stupid posts about 'the rich' made by people that don't seem to quite grasp how the system works"

[93M]

the queen has no real power, apart from power in a world sense i.e. acting as an envoy for the uk

[patrickinator]

She doesn't really have any powers. Why are there so many anti-monarchy threads all of a sudden?

God save the Queen!

[Drewski]

(Original post by patrickinator)
She doesn't really have any powers. Why are there so many anti-monarchy threads all of a sudden?

God save the Queen!

Because it's in the news and some people just like to moan. The anti-monarchy brigade are always their loudest both on here and in the real world when there's something major happening with the monarchy - the rest of the time the majority of them couldn't give a toss.

[hamijack]

(Original post by Bill_Gates)
Yep im getting on the bandwagon of talking about the queen. Im not going to say if im for her or not but lets look at some facts

1) She can change any law she wants
2) She can oust our current PM's
3) She has top level access to the armed forces, MI5, the police. She can do what she wants.
4) The BBC are up her arse thanks to the tv license which her peasants have to pay. The same with any media institution which has to look after the interests of the rich and powerful and not the common individual.

But its only a matter of time before Charles gets his nose in there and if Charles gets on the charlie? then we are f*****d.

1.) She has the power to do this, but politically, it would never happen.
2.) Same as above.
3.) Once again, she can't order the military about because of the massive constitutional hoo-hah it would create.
4.) Meh, so what. Fox News is up the Republican party's ass, the Guardian is up Labour's ass. Media institutions will always have some form of bias. Get over it.

The Queen only has theoretical political power. If she actually tried to do any of the things you said there would be massive political turmoil that nobody has the stomach for.

[Morgsie]

There is a convention called the Royal Prerogative though in practice the Government exercise them. Her Majesty is Head of State and part of that role is meeting with the Prime Minister weekly, signing legislation etc. She gets to do diplomacy. She is above Politics though she intervenes when there is a hung Parliament and the Politicians cannot decide who to from the Government amongst themselves.

[cid]

(Original post by blueray)
She has power, but I wish she used it in what is moral and what the public REALLY wants.

For instance saying "We shall reduce tuition fees and not only have further education for the rich".

How anyone can disagree with me on this, is just shocking. We had loads of students protesting...yet nothing was done.
Shocking.

If she's the peoples Queen, please Queen do something for us.

Not really the opinion of the public, rather that of students, who yes are incorporated with the public but do not by any means represent the public as a whole.

Most people people who are not students or possible the parents of students probably don't give two hoots about tuition fees, then again the whole thing about tuition fees is blown out of proportion.

[patrickinator]

(Original post by drewski)
because it's in the news and some people just like to moan. The anti-monarchy brigade are always their loudest both on here and in the real world when there's something major happening with the monarchy - the rest of the time the majority of them couldn't give a toss.

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[patrickinator]

(Original post by hamijack)
1.) she has the power to do this, but politically, it would never happen.
2.) same as above.
3.) once again, she can't order the military about because of the massive constitutional hoo-hah it would create.
4.) meh, so what. Fox news is up the republican party's ass, the guardian is up labour's ass. Media institutions will always have some form of bias. Get over it.

The queen only has theoretical political power. If she actually tried to do any of the things you said there would be massive political turmoil that nobody has the stomach for.

this as well!!

[james22]

(Original post by blueray)
She has power, but I wish she used it in what is moral and what the public REALLY wants.

For instance saying "We shall reduce tuition fees and not only have further education for the rich".

Yes, because you have to be so rich to take out the tuition fee loan

[hines]

The queen doesn't interject because it would cause more uproar if she did than otherwise. And yes, her power is theoretical, she doesn't exercise it because she leaves the MPs to do their work themselves.


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[Cannotbelieveit]

(Original post by Bill_Gates)
Yep im getting on the bandwagon of talking about the queen. Im not going to say if im for her or not but lets look at some facts

1) She can change any law she wants
2) She can oust our current PM's
3) She has top level access to the armed forces, MI5, the police. She can do what she wants.
4) The BBC are up her arse thanks to the tv license which her peasants have to pay. The same with any media institution which has to look after the interests of the rich and powerful and not the common individual.

1. When has she ever done this?
2. Again, when has she ever done this?
3. No she doesn't, and no she can't
4. Too stupid for me to even write a proper response

[pshewitt1]

(Original post by blueray)
She has power, but I wish she used it in what is moral and what the public REALLY wants.

For instance saying "We shall reduce tuition fees and not only have further education for the rich".

How anyone can disagree with me on this, is just shocking. We had loads of students protesting...yet nothing was done.
Shocking.

If she's the peoples Queen, please Queen do something for us.

there is nothing wrong with the current tuition fee's before you argue please look at the facts. 1) we now pay back less per month than the others 2>) we will never pay back the debt 3) we get a higher maintenance so our standard of living at uni is higher 4) you can't have such a large percentage of the population going to university and now have to pay. Education for the Rich ahahah, I'm considered rich and yet when I go to university I'm less well off than the supposed poor, how is that equality...

[NYU2012]

(Original post by blueray)
She has power, but I wish she used it in what is moral and what the public REALLY wants.

For instance saying "We shall reduce tuition fees and not only have further education for the rich".

How anyone can disagree with me on this, is just shocking. We had loads of students protesting...yet nothing was done.
Shocking.

If she's the peoples Queen, please Queen do something for us.

Come pay US tuition rates... Then you can complain

[zaliack]

(Original post by Morgsie)
There is a convention called the Royal Prerogative though in practice the Government exercise them. Her Majesty is Head of State and part of that role is meeting with the Prime Minister weekly, signing legislation etc. She gets to do diplomacy. She is above Politics though she intervenes when there is a hung Parliament and the Politicians cannot decide who to from the Government amongst themselves.

I hate the Royal Prerogative, I had to do an essay on how it contravenes Parliamentary sovereignty and the rule of law. It has to be the blandest subject ever taught on an LLB.

As for the OP, the Bill of Rights started to effectively destroy the Monarchs power. Now we've got to the point of the Monarch only capable of doing what Morgsie has pointed out, however those are all governed by conventions, and if Parliament wanted to, they could easily depower (can someone suggest a real word that I can put into here? ) the Queen.

1) The queen can not change ANY laws. Laws require both houses of Parliament (Or just the Commons acting through the Parliament Acts) and Royal Assent, however I would wager that a court would accept legislation without Royal Assent if the Queen were to act ultra vires.

2) Last I checked, only a vote of no confidence could oust our PM (Or is that just the government?)

3) I very much doubt she'd be leaking top secret details to terrorists

4) She doesn't, and can't, get her 'peasants' to pay taxes (Bill of Rights), If you want to complain about TV licensing, complain to the Government.

[FrogInABog]

(Original post by Bill_Gates)
Yep im getting on the bandwagon of talking about the queen. Im not going to say if im for her or not but lets look at some facts

1) She can change any law she wants
2) She can oust our current PM's
3) She has top level access to the armed forces, MI5, the police. She can do what she wants.
4) The BBC are up her arse thanks to the tv license which her peasants have to pay. The same with any media institution which has to look after the interests of the rich and powerful and not the common individual.

But its only a matter of time before Charles gets his nose in there and if Charles gets on the charlie? then we are f*****d.

Let's be honest, it's pretty clear that you're not a fan of the monarchy, so I wouldn't bother with the faux-impartiality!

I won't bother arguing your points, as others have done the job for me, but I think I should step in on the behalf of Prince Charles. I used to think he was a bit of an arrogant sod, but after I saw that documentary thing that he did at the weekend, I realised that my opinions were based on absolutely nothing. He actually seemed like a very nice man, with a good sense of humour, and my view of him has completely changed. Also, I see no reason to believe that a 63 year old man would suddenly develop a cocaine habit upon ascending the throne...

[Snagprophet]

(Original post by blueray)
She has power, but I wish she used it in what is moral and what the public REALLY wants.

I've never seen any evidence of her choosing what to 'use' her powers for.

(Original post by blueray)
For instance saying "We shall reduce tuition fees and not only have further education for the rich".

Firstly, the Queen can't just making things happen independently from the government. Money doesn't grow on trees. Resources don't re-spawn like in Skyrim. Chances are the Queens knows bugger all about economics, not to mention the economy would not stand for someone just screwing it up putting money from the budget into education from, seemingly, no-where. It's a long enough complicated process as it is for a team of advisers and the chancellor to sort out.

We don't have further education only for the 'rich'. I have been able to borrow/been given in grants £7000 for maintenance alone. My accommodation annual rent does not exceed £4000. This is the absolute maximum someone can get from low incomes, bar DSL or whatever the learning difficulties thing is. Not only this, but my entire fee is loaned, meaning I am eligible to pay it back when I am earning £15,000 or more. Therefore, there's no such thing as being too poor to afford uni. If anything, it's those on higher household incomes who are getting their balls kicked because on top of the higher taxes their parents are expected to pay, you know the people who the government are expecting to make up for the lower loans, they also want their kids to be more independent so they end up with less and moreover are the ones who need jobs at uni just to break even. It's the 'poor' folk like me who are privileged/are given a silver spoon for uni.

(Original post by blueray)
How anyone can disagree with me on this, is just shocking. We had loads of students protesting...yet nothing was done.
Shocking.

They were idiots. Anarchists. Cashing in on an awful stereotype. They were already at uni and therefore would not even be affected by the higher fees. The system for the higher fees is preferable to the current one because those starting uni this year have to earn £21,000 before they are eligible to pay anything back. That is a much stronger economic position. Not only that, but the government now allows people to pay their loan back as quickly as they please without being fined.

(Original post by blueray)
If she's the peoples Queen, please Queen do something for us.

She obeys the government. The government is the peoples' leader. 'Please government do something' would be a more plausible declarative.

[callum9999]

(Original post by blueray)
She has power, but I wish she used it in what is moral and what the public REALLY wants.

For instance saying "We shall reduce tuition fees and not only have further education for the rich".

How anyone can disagree with me on this, is just shocking. We had loads of students protesting...yet nothing was done.
Shocking.

If she's the peoples Queen, please Queen do something for us.

Why on earth should the students be listened to over tuition fees? Should we also be asking pensioners how much they want their pension to be, the general population should be allowed to decide what rate of VAT they pay in the shop and we'll have a vote to decide how much income tax we pay?

Further education isn't REMOTELY just for the rich anyway. For the last few months - and for the indefinite future - my family has had an income of £0. I'm currently at university and my brother will be going soon, it hasn't even crossed our minds that we can't afford to go...