[Dan1909]

(Original post by walkingbeard)
I agree with nennybeans on the accommodation. The Union recently did a survey on the Uni's accommodation which showed both in figures and in comments, that students in the more expensive Band D rooms at Manor Park very rarely went to see people in lower band rooms. These people wanted more luxury, while those already in lower band accommodation wanted lower-costs accommodation. The University should be discouraging that kind class divide but providing lost-cost, high-quality accommodation across the board.

But it's not that easy, is it? If you want a nicer room, it has to be paid for from somewhere. The university can't be expected to provide free housing for every student, so the money has to come from somewhere, in this case the people occupying the room.

And as a second point, surely adding a range of housing is the best thing the university can do? The options are either to have one middle of the road accommodation, which half the people won't be able to afford, and half may want to pay more for nicer accommodation, or to have different sets of accommodation, and let people choose what they want to live in/can afford to rent.

[brendayissel]

does anyone have any information about the criminology courses there?

[lNurl]

Do not forget that uni is a commercial place, so same as economy class and business class, all of them are flying to same place, but rich people are paying more for better seats.

[orionmoo]

(Original post by lNurl)
Do not forget that uni is a commercial place, so same as economy class and business class, all of them are flying to same place, but rich people are paying more for better seats.

wut?

Rich people are paying more for "better" accommodation (depends on what you define as the best accommodation, that is up to the individual. I wouldn't necessarily argue that the £173 a week studio rooms are the "best"), but they're not guaranteed better results or anything merely because they're rich. Everyone is equal at university, and it's down to the effort you put in to your studies - not how much money your parents earn.

[Dan1909]

(Original post by orionmoo)
wut?

Rich people are paying more for "better" accommodation (depends on what you define as the best accommodation, that is up to the individual. I wouldn't necessarily argue that the £173 a week studio rooms are the "best"), but they're not guaranteed better results or anything merely because they're rich. Everyone is equal at university, and it's down to the effort you put in to your studies - not how much money your parents earn.

I don't think he was trying to say anything about paying for grades, purely that people who can afford the more expensive accommodation will do so, and the people that can't, wont, as the university operates as a business in that way (as do all other universites).

At least that's how I interpreted it?

[WordsAndPictures]

(Original post by orionmoo)
wut?

Rich people are paying more for "better" accommodation (depends on what you define as the best accommodation, that is up to the individual. I wouldn't necessarily argue that the £173 a week studio rooms are the "best"), but they're not guaranteed better results or anything merely because they're rich. Everyone is equal at university, and it's down to the effort you put in to your studies - not how much money your parents earn.

I don't think he was saying that you buy better grades; just better accommodation.

Like the best seats on planes. They are more comfortable, so more expensive, but you get there at the same time as everyone else.

Uni accommodation - you can pay more for a bigger room, or a nicer room, or a studio flat, but you still have to work hard for the degree.

[lNurl]

(Original post by WordsAndPictures)
I don't think he was saying that you buy better grades; just better accommodation.

Like the best seats on planes. They are more comfortable, so more expensive, but you get there at the same time as everyone else.

Uni accommodation - you can pay more for a bigger room, or a nicer room, or a studio flat, but you still have to work hard for the degree.

thanks, i meant exactly that)

[Julie_T]

Hey guys, which is the earlier date we can move in? And when is the 'result day'? Thanks!

[shevi]

(Original post by Julie_T)
Hey guys, which is the earlier date we can move in? And when is the 'result day'? Thanks!

Earliest you can move in is 22 September and results are on August 16th, if I remember correctly. Not too long now.

[DemHoes]

(Original post by shevi)
Earliest you can move in is 22 September and results are on August 16th, if I remember correctly. Not too long now.

Shall we be waiting from the uni to inform us whether we are entitled to move in on Sat 22 Sep or Sun 23 Sep though?
Or is it up to us to choose one of these dates?
Imma need to book my airplane tickets

[Dan1909]

(Original post by DemHoes)
Shall we be waiting from the uni to inform us whether we are entitled to move in on Sat 22 Sep or Sun 23 Sep though?
Or is it up to us to choose one of these dates?
Imma need to book my airplane tickets

Saturday or Sunday is up to you. The university will ask you to let them know when you're coming, and will usually try to allocate you a specific time, so they they can stagger people throughout the day, however it doesn't really matter when you turn up, as long as it's within the actual moving in hours .

[orionmoo]

(Original post by DemHoes)
Shall we be waiting from the uni to inform us whether we are entitled to move in on Sat 22 Sep or Sun 23 Sep though?
Or is it up to us to choose one of these dates?
Imma need to book my airplane tickets

Are you an international student? Contacted the international office as they run a meet and greet programme at Heathrow and Gatwick on certain days and also an orientation week prior to freshers weeks.

International@Surrey.ac.uk

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC One X

[DemHoes]

(Original post by Dan1909)
Saturday or Sunday is up to you. The university will ask you to let them know when you're coming, and will usually try to allocate you a specific time, so they they can stagger people throughout the day, however it doesn't really matter when you turn up, as long as it's within the actual moving in hours .

Nice to know, mate, finally I can book my tickets!

(Original post by orionmoo)
Are you an international student? Contacted the international office as they run a meet and greet programme at Heathrow and Gatwick on certain days and also an orientation week prior to freshers weeks.

International@Surrey.ac.uk

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC One X

Yup, I'm a EU student. Once I 've booked my tickets, I'll let them know!

[orionmoo]

(Original post by lNurl)
thanks, i meant exactly that)

(Original post by Dan1909)
I don't think he was trying to say anything about paying for grades, purely that people who can afford the more expensive accommodation will do so, and the people that can't, wont, as the university operates as a business in that way (as do all other universites).

At least that's how I interpreted it?

(Original post by WordsAndPictures)
I don't think he was saying that you buy better grades; just better accommodation.

Like the best seats on planes. They are more comfortable, so more expensive, but you get there at the same time as everyone else.

Uni accommodation - you can pay more for a bigger room, or a nicer room, or a studio flat, but you still have to work hard for the degree.

Hm. Well - my point still stands that it depends on what you call better. I could even argue that standard band C is "better" than en suite band D.... Money isn't everything...

[lNurl]

(Original post by orionmoo)
Hm. Well - my point still stands that it depends on what you call better. I could even argue that standard band C is "better" than en suite band D.... Money isn't everything...

oh dear, there are standards that every accommodation/hotel/motel uses. These standards are used to make bands in the universities as well. Everyone has their own view on which room is better than other, however I'm pretty sure that expensive rooms have their own toilet and shower, whereas low cost rooms shares 1 shower, or room size is a bit smaller. Maybe you can't see the difference, because you used to live in the UK. Usually, international students very picky on accommodation, so there are should be different room types and different pricing.

[Dan1909]

(Original post by orionmoo)
Hm. Well - my point still stands that it depends on what you call better. I could even argue that standard band C is "better" than en suite band D.... Money isn't everything...

I don't think anyone has actually been saying that a more expensive room is always better for everyone, that would be silly. All they were saying is that it's not wrong for people who can afford and want to, to pay for a better (in the sense of higher quality only) room. The option of having cheaper rooms as well means that people who can't afford the higher priced ones, or don't feel the room is worth the price premium can take the cheaper room.

For the record I was in band C in my first year, and will be in band C in my final year next year by choice, as I don't feel that an en-suite is worth more to me than £20 a week.

[walkingbeard]

I went and asked Accommodation about the band C/D situation. They were quite candid: it's purely business. Both types of room cost about the same to build. They just make more profit on band D.

[_Saaaam_]

(Original post by lNurl)
I'm doing management degree. It is very good. Overall, it is not hard and very helpful lecturers. It is not just academically good but also professional help with employability.

Fantastic! Thanks for your help - shall take a visit

[Dmon1Unlimited]

I went to an open day/school trip thing...

It looks like a really good campus, would be great to lay on the grass there though I remember a lot of bird poop