FP3 Surface of revolution

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  1. thethinker's Avatar
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    FP3 Surface of revolution
    The arc of the curve y=(1/2)x^2 between the origin and the point (2,2) is rotated around 4 right angles about the y axis. Find the area of the surface generated.

    So I did:

    x=rt2*y^(1/2)

    so dx/dy= rt2/2 *y^-1/2

    (dx/dy)^2= 1/2*1/y


    Therefore 2pi*
    integral between limits 2 and 0: rt2 rty (1= 0.5y^-1)^1/2 dy


    Is this right? I don't know how to integrate this.
    Last edited by thethinker; 04-06-2012 at 11:35.
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    Re: FP3 Surface of revolution
    (Original post by thethinker)
    The arc of the curve y=(1/2)x^2 between the origin and the point (2,2) is rotated around 4 right angles about the x axis. Find the area of the surface generated.

    So I did:

    x=rt2*y^(1/2)

    so dx/dy= rt2/2 *y^-1/2

    (dx/dy)^2= 1/2*1/y


    Therefore 2pi*
    integral between limits 2 and 0: rt2 rty (1= 0.5y^-1)^1/2 dy


    Is this right? I don't know how to integrate this.
    Don't you need dy/dx rather than dx/dy?
  3. thethinker's Avatar
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    Re: FP3 Surface of revolution
    (Original post by hassi94)
    Don't you need dy/dx rather than dx/dy?
    I don't know, my book says you can use either dy/dx or dx/dy.

    With dy/dx I get the integral to be

    rt2*y^0.5*(1+2y)^0.5

    Which I can't integrate
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    Re: FP3 Surface of revolution
    (Original post by thethinker)
    I don't know, my book says you can use either dy/dx or dx/dy.

    With dy/dx I get the integral to be

    rt2*y^0.5*(1+2y)^0.5

    Which I can't integrate
    Surely you need to do dy/dx and integrate with respect to x if it's rotating around the x axis.

    dy/dx = x pretty clearly

    y = 1/2 x^2

    so you get S_x = \pi \displaystyle \int^2_0 x^2 \sqrt{1+x^2} dx

    Can you see what to do now?



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  5. ghostwalker's Avatar
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    Re: FP3 Surface of revolution
    Hassi94 is correct.
  6. thethinker's Avatar
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    Re: FP3 Surface of revolution
    (Original post by hassi94)
    Surely you need to do dy/dx and integrate with respect to x if it's rotating around the x axis.

    dy/dx = x pretty clearly

    y = 1/2 x^2

    so you get S_x = \pi \displaystyle \int^2_0 x^2 \sqrt{1+x^2} dx

    Can you see what to do now?



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    Hint: Need a hyperbolic substitution
    Oops sorry the question said y axis
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    Re: FP3 Surface of revolution
    (Original post by thethinker)
    Oops sorry the question said y axis
    The surely you need dx/dy
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    Re: FP3 Surface of revolution
    (Original post by thethinker)
    The arc of the curve y=(1/2)x^2 between the origin and the point (2,2) is rotated around 4 right angles about the y axis. Find the area of the surface generated.

    So I did:

    x=rt2*y^(1/2)

    so dx/dy= rt2/2 *y^-1/2

    (dx/dy)^2= 1/2*1/y


    Therefore 2pi*
    integral between limits 2 and 0: rt2 rty (1= 0.5y^-1)^1/2 dy


    Is this right? I don't know how to integrate this.
    It is right if you think to
    \int_0^2 \sqrt{2y}\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{2y}} dy
    for integration take out \frac{1}{2y} from the root, this

 will cancel the factor [latex]\sqrt{2y}]
    then substitute \sqrt{2y+1}=t \rightarrow dy=t\cdot dt
    and integrate by t.
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    Re: FP3 Surface of revolution
    Thanks!
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