Girls who shave

Either way, men expect women to be smooth. e.g. philistine.

Not washing is unhygenic. There is nothing dirty about body hair. It is not a sign of uncleanliness. It's natural.

Just because everyone else is shaving doesn't mean I have to.

If it were to become fashion to have no breasts, would people go in for breast reduction surgery? If the answer is no, then why not? Because it's natural and a sign of maturity and womanhood.

You grow body hair when you grow into a woman and girls are taught from a young age that it is disgusting and that we should remove it or else! It's time consuming, expensive and conforms to ideals of beauty that say that it is 'unnatural' for a woman to be 'natural'.

BRB going to work in my boxers because I DON'T HAVE TO CONFORM.

So go out in your boxers if you want. I'm not going to stop you. You might get a little cold though. There are practical reasons for clothes too.

Ps. Ever heard of naturism?

I am inadequate because I have realised the truth over what men want.

Just because you believe something is a sign of 'womanhood' doesn't mean that you aren't going against a largely accepted social convention on the basis of freedom of expression. Which is fine. But if you apply that logic to virtually anything else, i.e. a job where you're expected to wear a suit, you have to accept that your opinion and personal stance may be frowned upon. You don't have to do anything any more than anyone has to accept it.

Maybe when you're an angsty teen doing things like wearing your school uniform differently, breaching conventions in terms of standardised dress and grooming is fine. If you're someone who's in a band or a hippy commune, I'm sure that things like dress codes and shaving are equally unimportant.

If, however, you wish to venture into the wider world, you'll find conventions. If I feel that wearing a suit in a job where it's expected of me is somehow restrictive of my personal autonomy, it's tough for me. We aren't all able to express our individuality all of the time. If I want to dress casually, because that's the way I see myself, that's fine too; I just won't get the job. In the same manner, if you wish to not shave your legs because you won't have them out in public much, that's fine. However, you have to accept that you're contravening a largely accepted social convention. Just because you don't believe that every girl should shave their legs doesn't mean that this isn't the majority of the opinion. A crowd mentality isn't necessarily right, but your cries of individuality and personal autonomy don't defeat the widely held perception.

In the same vein, you also state that it's 'time consuming'. It's time consuming to groom one's hair into a conventional style for work, or dress in a suit, but that's hardly an argument that would stack up very well as to explaining why you couldn't be arsed.

How have you realised the truth if you are apparently too inadequate to gain experience with men?

Exactly the point.

But it's not. You couldn't possibly know what real men want if you apparently don't have romantic contact with them. FHM and porn doesn't count, real experiences do, and apparently you don't have any. So your points on these topics are weak compared to those that do, yet you will dismiss those who have had more experience than you. It's one or the other.

It's obvious that men cheat because their partners are not good looking enough any more.

Ignoring my point. Come back to these topics when you have real experience, until then stop dismissing the more valid points of others.

It's obvious that men cheat because their partners are not good looking enough any more.

This. What will be next...us shaving our arms?

It's not worth arguing with her about. Her skull's made of lead and it's been filled with a lot of strange ideas about how men work. She's not going to change her mind no matter what anyone says. Eventually, she'll come to the realisation on her own.

Ashley Cole.

Or maybe I'm the only one who's sane.

He's an idiot, so Cheryl had a lucky escape. It's not worth being with an idiot, especially seeing as Cheryl could have any other BETTER guy out there.

I did that once. Bad mistake. Got these weird bumps on my arms now

I've decided to stop shaving. It's funny how quickly you get used to it, and how bizarre shaving is when you think about it at all. But it also makes you feel really good to be able to go out with bare, hairy legs and think "I know this is scary but I'm going to do it anyway, because this whole women-should-not-have-body-hair-thing is stupid." I went out of Friday and wasn't quite ready for hairy armpits on a night out, so I shaved, but I think I'm getting there. It takes time to break a half-a-lifetime compulsion.