[suicidaleffect]

Since prophets are the best that humanity can offer and those are only men does that not make religion a bit of a sham dominated by a purely male perspective?

[SquaredCircle]

Because god hates women

[Alexok]

Logic into religion = anger

[b41nzy]

(Original post by suicidaleffect)
Since prophets are the best that humanity can offer and those are only men does that not make religion a bit of a sham dominated by a purely male perspective?

not even trolling. that's pretty interesting. Maybe in 1 of the religions there is a female prophet. do you know for sure there isn't?

[That Friday Feelin]

it's probably hard to find just a religion with one of which is a girl as religions were around when men ruled over women

[The_Lonely_Goatherd]

It's because women were seen as second class citizens who shouldn't speak in public. So any female prophets would have been ignored or deemed mad

That said, if you look at the history of the Catholic Church, there are numerous female saints who were mystics. Also the odd prophet, e.g. Hildegard of Bingen is regarded as a prophet, from what I understand

[Great Lord Xenu]

(Original post by suicidaleffect)
Since prophets are the best that humanity can offer and those are only men does that not make religion a bit of a sham dominated by a purely male perspective?

Quiet yourself, wench.

[b41nzy]

anyone who says God is speaking to them and has told them such an such is usually deemed mad now anyway.

[thegodofgod]

(Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
It's because women were seen as second class citizens who shouldn't speak in public. So any female prophets would have been ignored or deemed mad

That said, if you look at the history of the Catholic Church, there are numerous female saints who were mystics. Also the odd prophet, e.g. Hildegard of Bingen is regarded as a prophet, from what I understand

No idea whether I'm conflating the two here, but Hinduism has goddesses

[The_Lonely_Goatherd]

(Original post by thegodofgod)
No idea whether I'm conflating the two here, but Hinduism has goddesses

Ah I was talking about Christianity, since that's what I'm familiar with. Didn't make that very clear though, my bad

[AdvanceAndVanquish]

(Original post by suicidaleffect)
Since prophets are the best that humanity can offer and those are only men does that not make religion a bit of a sham dominated by a purely male perspective?

here is a christian source on the topic. just did a quick google search
http://stronginfaith.org/article.php?page=90

[pinda.college]

They were all in their kitchens making cheese toasties for their husbands.....

Seriously though, I think it's because of their importance in society back then. I mean woman only got the right to vote in the 20th century in some places, so just imagine how much they were restricted in terms of: politics, religion, and war back in the day.

[Christianlady]

(Original post by suicidaleffect)
Since prophets are the best that humanity can offer and those are only men does that not make religion a bit of a sham dominated by a purely male perspective?

Hello Suicidealeffect,

You are mistaken. There are female prophets, both long time ago and now.

Below is a list of female prophets in the Tanakh:

1. Miriam
Exodus 15 - http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../Exodus15.html

"20 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances."

2. Deborah
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...e/Judges4.html

"4 Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

5 And she sat under the palm-tree of Deborah between Ramah and Beth-el in the hill-country of Ephraim; and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment."

3. Huldah
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../Kingsa22.html

"14 So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asaiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe--now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the second quarter--and they spoke with her."

4. the wife of Isaiah, called the prophetess (though she could have just been called the wife of the prophet Isaiah, but I truly believe she was called prophetess because she was in fact, a prophet too.)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...e/Isaiah8.html

"3 And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bore a son. Then said HaShem unto me: 'Call his name Maher-shalal-hashbaz."

5. Anna

Luke 2 - http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...2&version=TNIV

"36 There was also a prophet, Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was very old; she had lived with her husband seven years after her marriage, 37 and then had been a widow for eighty-four years.[d] She never left the temple but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38 Coming up to them at that very moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the child to all who were looking forward to the redemption of Jerusalem. "

It is true however that prophets/prophesies have been dominated by men. However, many Jewish Orthodox people, Muslims, and Christians believe that God gave men and women different roles in life. The leader of the family is considered to be the man's role. The wife is considered to be the helpmeet of the husband. Sad to say, many men throughout the ages have not understood that both are equal, just different with different roles. However, there are men and women who do live together in joy, peace, and happiness, with these roles in place.

Back to prophets, prophets are merely people who prophesy. There are males and females who do so.

In Joel 3 (in the Tankah) and Joel 2 (in the Bible), the prophet Joel gives a wonderful prophecy, which Christians believe began to be fulfilled started in the historic event account in Acts 2.

Joel 3 - http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...ble/Joel3.html
(I boldened some.)

"1 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions;

2 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out My spirit.

3 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

4 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of HaShem come.

5 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of HaShem shall be delivered; for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those that escape, as HaShem hath said, and among the remnant those whom HaShem shall call."

Peace and God bless you

[Perseveranze]

In Islam, there are female Prophets, but no female messengers.

There is a difference between the two.

[amerzeb]

(Original post by Perseveranze)
In Islam, there are female Prophets, but no female messengers.

There is a difference between the two.

Could you give me an example of female prophets?

[TheBBQ]

(Original post by thegodofgod)
No idea whether I'm conflating the two here, but Hinduism has goddesses

Not individual goddesses, more of a way of representing certain aspects of a Supreme God. One who is absolutely everything cannot be represented in a single form

[Perseveranze]

(Original post by amerzeb)
Could you give me an example of female prophets?

Prophet in the strictest sense is someone who has had divine inspiration. So by that definition, some scholars believe that people like Mary(ra) etc. were Prophets.

It's quite a deep topic where scholars have had a difference of opinion. This explains it well.

[LeeC]

The bible/quran etc was written by men in a mans world.

[MonkeyMan2009]

(Original post by suicidaleffect)
Since prophets are the best that humanity can offer and those are only men does that not make religion a bit of a sham dominated by a purely male perspective?

because equality of the sexes didn't exist back in those days . . . . we only got it fairly recently and yet people are still questioning certain aspects of it...

[MonkeyMan2009]

(Original post by Perseveranze)
Prophet in the strictest sense is someone who has had divine inspiration. So by that definition, some scholars believe that people like Mary(ra) etc. were Prophets.

It's quite a deep topic where scholars have had a difference of opinion. This explains it well.

but she wasn't a so called "messenger of god" was she?