[Tinberry]

Does anyone know if UCAS automatically changes to give you a clearing number on June 30th if you haven't applied to anything?

I am applying only to clearing places but have all my UCAS set up and ready to go including personal statement and reference. If by some great stroke of luck on June 30th (when clearing opens but well before exam results) my ideal course come up will a clearing number have appeared on my page to give to unis when I phone up?

Anyone know or do this last year?

[TenOfThem]

(Original post by Tinberry)
Does anyone know if UCAS automatically changes to give you a clearing number on June 30th if you haven't applied to anything?

I am applying only to clearing places but have all my UCAS set up and ready to go including personal statement and reference. If by some great stroke of luck on June 30th (when clearing opens but well before exam results) my ideal course come up will a clearing number have appeared on my page to give to unis when I phone up?

Anyone know or do this last year?

Do you have your grades?

[Juno]

(Original post by Tinberry)
Does anyone know if UCAS automatically changes to give you a clearing number on June 30th if you haven't applied to anything?

I am applying only to clearing places but have all my UCAS set up and ready to go including personal statement and reference. If by some great stroke of luck on June 30th (when clearing opens but well before exam results) my ideal course come up will a clearing number have appeared on my page to give to unis when I phone up?

Anyone know or do this last year?

You need to have sent your application. Apply won't magically change to give your Clearing number, although the choices bit will disappear.

[Tinberry]

(Original post by TenOfThem)
Do you have your grades?

Im going to say Yes though its more complicated for me. I already have a BSc and I have the school grades for all my courses but am aiming for direct entry into 2nd year.
In theory there should be 2nd entry places in clearing as well as space created by drop outs who never made it to 2nd year.

[Flyteryder]

(Original post by Tinberry)
In theory there should be 2nd entry places in clearing as well as space created by drop outs who never made it to 2nd year.

Not really; those spaces don't have to be filled if the universities don't want them to be. The universities choose which courses to enter into clearing, so they may decide to not put second year entry into clearing.

[Juno]

Second year places won't actually be in Clearing as such. It may be possible to find them, but you'd need to contact unis individually rather than just using the Clearing list.

Yes, I know you should contact unis anyway - I just mean they won't be on the list.

[Tinberry]

Yeah I know im sort of a special case, for lack of a better term. As you say I have to phone any potential place anyway so I hope to be able to sort all the required bits out on what I suspect to be a long call.
I have tried emailing unis to double check about adv. entry but was told simply they werent accepting further applicants including for 2nd year entry.

But I will need a clearing number when contacting them regarding places. Any ideas it will just appear or if I must register on the 30th.

[Tinberry]

Any other info on Clearing no. situation?

[Juno]

As I already said if you bothered to read it, you'll get your number when you apply. Before you apply you won't magically get the number, like you seem to think you will.

[Tinberry]

(Original post by Juno)
As I already said if you bothered to read it, you'll get your number when you apply. Before you apply you won't magically get the number, like you seem to think you will.

I DID read you input but please read below.

Quote from UCAS website: (http://www.ucas.com/students/nextsteps/clearing/todo)

" 4. Clearing Number

Your Clearing Number is displayed on the 'welcome' page and 'choices' page in Track. When you contact a university or college they will ask for your Clearing Number to confirm that they can consider you in Clearing. They can then view your complete application immediately on our secure online system."

As I have underlined in the quote Unis ask for your number when you call. ie WHILE you are applying.

Now do you see why i'm asking my question?

I am not in Track as I haven't applied to anything yet.
UCAS keeps telling me about being eligible for clearing or that I will enter clearing etc but not if I will be automatically given a clearing number.

[TheSownRose]

(Original post by Tinberry)
I DID read you input but please read below.

Quote from UCAS website: (http://www.ucas.com/students/nextsteps/clearing/todo)

" 4. Clearing Number

Your Clearing Number is displayed on the 'welcome' page and 'choices' page in Track. When you contact a university or college they will ask for your Clearing Number to confirm that they can consider you in Clearing. They can then view your complete application immediately on our secure online system."

As I have underlined in the quote Unis ask for your number when you call. ie WHILE you are applying.

Now do you see why i'm asking my question?

I am not in Track as I haven't applied to anything yet.
UCAS keeps telling me about being eligible for clearing or that I will enter clearing etc but not if I will be automatically given a clearing number.

How much do you understand of the Clearing process? You seem to be under the impression that you need to have your Clearing choice entered on your UCAS application before you send it off.

That's not the case. If you apply after June 30th, you apply with no university choices entered. After UCAS have processed the application, your Clearing number comes up, then you start enquiring around universities and enter a Clearing choice when you get an offer you'd like to accept.

[Tinberry]

In reply to you question. I known very little about it other than what I find written on the ucas site. Hence why im askin here. I am simply looking for a bit of help and clarification.

Again i am confused. If I enter no choices surely my ucas application is not complete and wont sent. I have to pay ucas either the £11 or £22 so what would I pay for no choices. It does seem to make sense.

Surely the ucas application IS your uni or clearing application. Are there two separate stages where ucas process my pages and then allow me to apply to unis?

[TheSownRose]

(Original post by Tinberry)
In reply to you question. I known very little about it other than what I find written on the ucas site. Hence why im askin here. I am simply looking for a bit of help and clarification.

Again i am confused. If I enter no choices surely my ucas application is not complete and wont sent. I have to pay ucas either the £11 or £22 so what would I pay for no choices. It does seem to make sense.

Surely the ucas application IS your uni or clearing application. Are there two separate stages where ucas process my pages and then allow me to apply to unis?

Right now, it wouldn't be complete and I don't believe it would send (although have never tried it.) However, after June 30th you stop being able to apply to individual universities; at that point, an application with no universities entered is fine to be submitted and UCAS will process that, then display your Clearing number on Track rather than progress on your choices. You would pay £22.

[Juno]

(Original post by Tinberry)
In reply to you question. I known very little about it other than what I find written on the ucas site. Hence why im askin here. I am simply looking for a bit of help and clarification.

Again i am confused. If I enter no choices surely my ucas application is not complete and wont sent. I have to pay ucas either the £11 or £22 so what would I pay for no choices. It does seem to make sense.

Surely the ucas application IS your uni or clearing application. Are there two separate stages where ucas process my pages and then allow me to apply to unis?

No, I don't see why you're asking your question, because you've quoted something from UCAS that backs up what I've said here and completely contradicts what you think. Then if my answer is too confusing to you, it would be better to actually ask a specific question or explain what you think rather than expecting me or anyone else to mind read. I may know a hell of a lot about UCAS but unfortunately I don't have supernormal powers yet.

[Tinberry]

Hey Juno

Basically if you read back, you told me id get my number "after" I apply and then "when" I apply ( i assume you mean the same in these cases) but the quote I gave from ucas says I must have my clearing number to give to unis when I call up BEFORE they will consider the application. UCAS are telling me I need my number before applying and you told me id get it after.
I hope you now see the difference.

And thank you TheSownRose