Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?
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View Poll Results: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?
Labour 15 17.05% Conservative 29 32.95% Liberal Democrats 9 10.23% Other 35 39.77%
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Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?One example of that isn't enough, as you probably will know, to justify a whole definitive statement about a party. The conservatives are doing much more damage to the poor than the labour party ever will because they're concerned about only the wealthy and the economy, and that's all they ever will be concerned about..That's just right-wing politics for you(Original post by chrisawhitmore)
Yep. The 10p tax rate was really hurting poor families, so good old labour were kind enough to double that for them. -
Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?
ideologically im a tory but in all honesty the party can go take a long walk off a short cliff with the rest of them ... theyre all broadly speaking the same and do very little to benefit the actual voters, in my honest opinion. and for that reason i support none of the little devils.
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Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?This.(Original post by cl_steele)
theyre all broadly speaking the same and do very little to benefit the actual voters, in my honest opinion. and for that reason i support none of the little devils. -
Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?(Original post by Aidn)
I have to disagree with the person saying labour were "harming the poor"
If you think about it, labour's a lot more of a left wing political party than
the right wing conservatives running the country now who's
actual belief is in giving the rich a lot more opportunity in life
while left wing political parties believe equality amongst the poor
as well as the rich, "harming the poor" is not a term i'd describe them as.
And if you're talking about the poor being harmed, then what about all the cuts conservatives have "had"
to make over the past 2 years, which have directly left many graduating from university from a job and
upped the student fees to ridiculous amounts to those who may not be entirely rich themselves. They then
go onto blame labour for all their problems to cover their own ones 2 years into their government which
might as well be falling to pieces.
It's just an opinion, but I don't think Labour did "harm the poor"
I accidentally repped you (on phone). Here are some interesting articles by Jeff Randall on the Labour Party's position towards bankers & the debt trouble (although he does criticize the Tories, with labours policies we would spend more than we already do). -
Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?Yes, the Conservatives are concerned about the economy. This occurs largely because Conservative governments occur after Labour ones, and so criticizing them for being overly concerned with the economy is rather like criticizing Atlee for being too concerned with rebuilding infrastructure. The Conservatives believe that the way to make the poor better off is to make everyone better off, while Labour's approach is to reduce the gap between rich and poor by pushing everyone closer to the lowest common denominator.(Original post by Aidn)
One example of that isn't enough, as you probably will know, to justify a whole definitive statement about a party. The conservatives are doing much more damage to the poor than the labour party ever will because they're concerned about only the wealthy and the economy, and that's all they ever will be concerned about..That's just right-wing politics for you -
Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?Well it's all down to opinion at the end of the day, but I don't think they're intending to "make the poor better off" by concentrating all their time onto the economy and not caring about what happens to them in between now and then. They may pretend as it they want to make sure that everyone is better off but the conservatives interests always have and always will be on the rich and wealthy before anyone else.(Original post by chrisawhitmore)
Yes, the Conservatives are concerned about the economy. This occurs largely because Conservative governments occur after Labour ones, and so criticizing them for being overly concerned with the economy is rather like criticizing Atlee for being too concerned with rebuilding infrastructure. The Conservatives believe that the way to make the poor better off is to make everyone better off, while Labour's approach is to reduce the gap between rich and poor by pushing everyone closer to the lowest common denominator.Last edited by Aidn; 09-06-2012 at 14:22. -
Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?
Before the last general election I would have said Lib Dem, I saw it as a 'plague on all your houses' vote as I didn't like Labour and I wasn't impressed with the Conservatives.
My political views have changed since the last general election, I suppose I used to be a lefty liberal type but I've become more conservative/libertarian since then.
If there was an election tomorrow I'd probably vote UKIP as they are the closest to my views, but I would never join them (or any other political party for that matter) as I prefer to be 'independent' and dislike tribal politics.Last edited by JMB92; 10-06-2012 at 22:11. -
Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?That's a bizarre turn of phrase for someone who pretends to dislike tribal politics. And what, prey tell, is a lefty liberal 'type'?(Original post by JMB92)
Before the last general election I would have said Lib Dem, I saw it as a 'plague on all your houses' vote as I didn't like Labour and I wasn't impressed with the Conservatives.
My political views have changed since the last general election, I suppose I used to be a lefty liberal type but I've become more conservative/libertarian since then.
If there was an election tomorrow I'd probably vote UKIP as they are the closest to my views, but I would never join them (or any other political party for that matter) as I prefer to be 'independent' and dislike tribal politics.Last edited by johnaulich; 16-06-2012 at 18:15. Reason: Autocorrect made a mockery of the whole thing. -
Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?
Labour Party member. However, I am most definitely a member of the left-wing faction; the Socialist Campaign Group epitomize my ideological beliefs.
I am glad to see the GMB union are taking on the Blairite's within the party, hopefully this will mark a shift to the left for Labour. We need a return to a Labour Party that stands up for ordinary people's needs and views! New Labour is dead. -
Re: Which political party do you support (if any) and why?Hard to make that judgement just yet - they are in a coalition with a centre-centre-left party.(Original post by Patriot Rich)
Currently Conservative but I'm seriously considering moving toward UKIP.
It's got to the point where the Conservatives simple aren't conservative any more.