(Original post by c471)
Im somebody who is quite an active follower of science and new developments. I am astounded by the number of atheists who use science as an all covering shield against any sort of higher power.
Now, I was raised catholic, and now firmly agnostic. I reserve judgement on the issue of god, and figure if it changes in the course of my life one way or the other, I can accomodate this, so i have no axe to grind.
Typically atheists clamour on about how science leaves no room for god etc, how we havent seen any evidence etc. I think this is a valid arguement for somebody with this view 100 years ago. today, however, it is very difficult to use science as a stick to beat religion.
As an example, I would like to highlight a few widely accepted scientific principles.
An experiment called the 'delayed choice quantum eraser', (wiki it for details) for example, seems to provide compelling and pretty substantial results that indicated a violation of the 'cause and effect' principle. To put it simply, the results seem to fly in the face of our understanding of time, in that the end result seems to dictate the journey, rather than the other way round.
Another idea is entanglement and non locality. Basicly, it is well observed that particles can interact across vast distance with apparently no discernable physical connection.
The list is endless, i could bring up the countless examples of really well documented and accepted stuff, that does not go along with the whole 'how can my mind live on after I die, science doesnt see any possibility'. In fact, as we progress, we seem to unearth greater, more profound mysteries of how the universe works. If we (as a scientific community) can accept that the presence of conciousness has a fundamental and irreplacable role in even the most basic occurances of our universe, how can we dismiss the idea that the universe exists because of conciousness, which is a very deep and meaningful idea indeed.
I would like to see how these ideas sit with some staunch atheists, as i have yet to see any real strong position which extends beyond 'the idea of god doesnt sit well with me' or 'the bible says this and this so how can it be true'.